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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 9:04:10 AM
#279
Veggeta X posted...
They are slogans but they have meaning and are very easy to interpret whether you agree with them or not.
but they're easy to interpret any way you want to interpret them. and that's the problem

definitely asks for something but not in a hostile reactional way that you far lefties like.
what does "hostile reactional" mean exactly?

You people literally want to serve justice through fear and think you're the good guys.
not sure where you got this idea, but it's completely wrong

You literally and technically can't be a progressive if you're going to use the same tyrannical tactics as the opposition. It's high time you guys realize this.
saying "defund the police" is a tyrannical tactic?

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 9:00:05 AM
#276
Doom_Art posted...
You're almost there
I'm certainly closer than you are

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 8:58:13 AM
#275
DoubleOSnake posted...
no , why?
because this board is full of far-right nutjobs

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 8:55:19 AM
#271
DoubleOSnake posted...
yeah i have kinda noticed this. But the better question is, why do ce users react that way when one of those topics is posted?
you know why

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TopicC/D: The far left and the far right are the exact same kind of people.
averagejoel
12/03/20 8:54:16 AM
#91
Veggeta X posted...
It's cute how far leftists think they're the progressives. You guys are a monolith and all share the same blind traits.
did you just learn the word "monolith"? is that why you've been using it so much over the last couple days?

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 8:52:31 AM
#269
TopicC/D: The far left and the far right are the exact same kind of people.
averagejoel
12/03/20 8:42:55 AM
#89
Endgame posted...
An actual far leftist would be Thanos
Thanos in the MCU is an eco-fascist

Thanos in the comics is an incel

where do you get "far leftist" from any of that?

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TopicUS had most deaths ever in a day from COVID today
averagejoel
12/03/20 8:31:24 AM
#39
LightHawKnight posted...
Theres plenty of reason with pooh in charge.
do you see the problem with comparing a chinese man's appearance to a yellow bear with squinty eyes

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TopicUS had most deaths ever in a day from COVID today
averagejoel
12/03/20 8:27:15 AM
#37
pinky0926 posted...
China will lie about it
jesus christ people are still going on about this?

there's no reason to believe China's numbers are less reliable than the numbers from any other country

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 2:09:46 AM
#263
shnangyboos posted...
25% isn't "very popular", no matter the spin.
I'll concede that "very popular" is an extremely subjective metric, and is as such unfalsifiable

still, it's far more popular among the general population than among elected officials. which was really my point in the first place

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 1:30:33 AM
#261
pure_temper posted...
NPR - Police Viewed Less Favorably, But Few Want To 'Defund' Them, Survey Finds

On a point advocated by many of the protesters, only a quarter of those surveyed (25%) said that funding for the police should be decreased. Seventy-three percent said they thought funding for the police should either stay about the same (42%), be increased a little (20%) or a lot (11%).

https://tinyurl.com/y62r2drb
25% is quite a large portion of the population. if memory serves, 25% is roughly the portion of the population that voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 (about 50% of americans voted, and about 50% of the votes went to her)

now, what percentage of people running for office had "reduce police funding" as one of their positions? I don't know the answer to that, but I bet it's nowhere close to 25%. if I had to guess, I would say it's probably closer to 1%

so based on those results, I would conclude that defunding the police as a political position is underrepresented in candidates running for office

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/03/20 12:51:42 AM
#255
InhumaneRaider posted...
People need to understand, these are not popular policies to run on. 'Defund the Police', 'Abolish ICE' are not popular positions.
they aren't popular among people running for office, but they are very popular among the general population

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 11:24:08 PM
#246
Naysaspace posted...
We live in a strange time where the Right have said "fuck you" to Foxnews and the Left are about to say "fuck you" to Obama.
Obama is unambiguously right-wing. what's so strange about the Left saying "fuck you" to him?

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TopicOk so first time doing a term paper, what's the strategy here
averagejoel
12/02/20 1:43:21 PM
#31
josifrees posted...
My post is the way you should do it, if your professor is accepting anything otherwise you are plagiarizing. Whether your prof is enforcing it or not is what is the dependency

Phynaster posted...
this depends entirely on the kind of paper in question and is far from typical.


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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 1:23:57 PM
#183
Veggeta X posted...
Consider intent. Just because you choose to be a cop doesn't mean you choose to blindly follow the inherent flaws that comes with being a cop.
right. most cops actively embrace them

You can believe whatever you want. I just think hippocrisy destroys a lot of validation in one's beliefs and conviction.
but there's no hypocrisy in my argument

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 1:13:44 PM
#176
Veggeta X posted...
Hey, I believe in the logic of you are who you choose to keep as your company to a large extent so I can understand where you're coming from but you're too Black and White on this situation which is inherently bad in itself.
point out an actual existing Grey area within the context of my argument and I'll at least consider changing it

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 1:06:08 PM
#171
Veggeta X posted...
Not all people don't become a cop thinking "Well I know this shit is bad so imma join it!".
cool. the fact remains that all cops actively choose to become cops.

the facts that I posted in post 86 also still remain:

1. laws of society are written by the people in power, and used to exert their will on others
2. the architects of this system owned private property (that is, something that passively makes them money) and wrote these laws to benefit their own interests. the people in power, by and large, still own private property (though now it tends to be rented housing units rather than slaves)
3. the role of the police is to uphold and enforce laws. all laws. they agree to do this as part of the terms of their employment.

also, you might want to proofread your posts before posting them

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 1:00:46 PM
#165
Veggeta X posted...
I disagree. I believe intent matters. If it didn't matter then everything we do is inherently bad one way or another whether you choose to do so or not.
pretty sure you have to actively try to become a cop

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 12:43:42 PM
#147
Veggeta X posted...
I don't see how this has anything to do with differentiating what you can and can't monolith.
it's the train of thought that leads to the "All Cops Are Bastards" saying

This is basically saying cops are bad just being cops regardless of their intention.
yes, it is. and yes, they are.

This is akin to saying we're all sinners by basically being humans. What a justification.
the key difference here is that all cops actively choose to be cops

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 11:37:48 AM
#85
King_Hutton posted...
Its almost like their goal is to fight the left and not make positive changes
be careful with your phrasing on here -- Doom_Art might quote you and go "bOtH sIdEs" and you DON'T want that to happen

edit: damn he beat me to it

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 11:30:11 AM
#81
Veggeta X posted...
Oh I'd love for you to explain this.
1. laws of society are written by the people in power, and used to exert their will on others
2. the architects of this system owned private property (that is, something that passively makes them money) and wrote these laws to benefit their own interests. the people in power, by and large, still own private property (though now it tends to be rented housing units rather than slaves)
3. the role of the police is to uphold and enforce laws. all laws. they agree to do this as part of the terms of their employment.

"All Cops Are Bastards" is not blaming all cops for the actions of a few; it's recognizing that all cops agreed to uphold all laws, including those that are unjust or cruel or otherwise harmful to the people who are not in power.

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 11:19:16 AM
#69
Veggeta X posted...
You guys hate being called a monolith but you go and say shit like ACAB. You don't see your own hippocrisy.
I hate to break it to you, but "ACAB" does not stand for "Cops Are a Monolith"

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 11:17:45 AM
#64
Veggeta X posted...
Look at this spin. I'm not gonna tryna convince you guys any further. Keep thinking you're serving justice in your twisted bubble.
cool. now please address the part of my post before the "and"

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 11:15:25 AM
#61
anyway, Obama Shut the Fuck Up Challenge 2020

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TopicBarack Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police'
averagejoel
12/02/20 11:14:30 AM
#59
Veggeta X posted...
What lefties don't understand is when you say something extreme and absolute like this it only gives Repubs more ammo to use against us. It's taking steps backwards and it hurts progression. Doing this don't make you the good guy at all.
republicans will get more ammo regardless of what democrats do. that's how they operate.

and "defund" is neither extreme nor absolute. "abolish" is. no mainstream politician in the US is calling for abolition. but it is the ultimate goal of the protests

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TopicShe says "Hey ugly, want universal healthcare?"
averagejoel
12/01/20 11:02:45 PM
#39
KINDERFELD posted...
She and her buddies are literally called "the squad". They have been popularized as liberal attack dogs. I mean, if you can't even agree on that basic fact, why even have this discussion?
you're gonna have to explain what you mean by "liberal attack dogs" first

but regardless, being called "the squad" doesn't negate the point I made

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TopicShe says "Hey ugly, want universal healthcare?"
averagejoel
12/01/20 10:47:27 PM
#36
KINDERFELD posted...
Ever see how the right effective paint her to be a rabid socialist? She makes it very easy for them based on not only her political ideology, but by the way she communicates.
that happens with literally everyone regardless of where they are on the political spectrum or how they communicate.

many people legitimately believe Biden is on the left. he has even been painted as a socialist

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TopicOk so first time doing a term paper, what's the strategy here
averagejoel
12/01/20 5:42:54 PM
#23
CalypsoDoom posted...
I know Purdue OWL has good resources for APA, but I am not familiar with their other resources.
it's good for MLA too. or at least, it was when I was in university

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TopicHaving a legal copy of a game doesnt make getting a rom for it legal..
averagejoel
12/01/20 5:39:46 PM
#24
LordMarshal posted...
So you have to rip the rom off the cart yourself. If you cant prove you can do that then you illegally obtained it.
generally, the person accusing you has to prove that you did illegally obtain it. not the other way around

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TopicOk so first time doing a term paper, what's the strategy here
averagejoel
12/01/20 5:34:41 PM
#19
Hexenherz posted...
Damn that's a good idea.

I was fortunate enough someone recommended Zotero for saving resources but I didn't think to save info like that
there are lots of options for automatic formatting of citations within the paper too -- I recommend Citation Machine

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TopicOk so first time doing a term paper, what's the strategy here
averagejoel
12/01/20 5:22:07 PM
#16
oh yeah: when I was starting out I used index cards for citations. I would write the source on one side and one key piece of information on the other. makes it easier to organize

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TopicOk so first time doing a term paper, what's the strategy here
averagejoel
12/01/20 5:20:04 PM
#14
josifrees posted...
basucally, you should have citation for every meaningful statement. Quotes are obvious but If you are paraphrasing you need to cite what you are paraphrasing. Ideally you have no original ideas
this... depends a lot on the type of paper being written

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TopicFun fact: there's no reason menstruation products shouldn't be free
averagejoel
11/30/20 5:20:31 PM
#81
Balrog0 posted...
like, if we take all menstrual products out of the market and use tax revenue so that government can create and distribute them, the distributional impact is ambiguous. It might be a net progressive transfer of wealth, but it's hard to say because people in every income bracket use period products.

If we just give poor people money, the impact is much more clear.
"giving poor people money" is, functionally, the government giving money to the corporations that sell period products. the corporation is an unnecessary middle man

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TopicFun fact: there's no reason menstruation products shouldn't be free
averagejoel
11/30/20 2:36:59 PM
#50
philsov posted...
Indeed. So why not subsidize food further?
food should be free as well.

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TopicFun fact: there's no reason menstruation products shouldn't be free
averagejoel
11/30/20 2:31:08 PM
#42
philsov posted...
So wouldn't someone who was choosing between food and basic hygiene now have to choose between food and not paying taxes (as the taxes are raised to allow for this to be subsidized in the first place)? How is this a better scenario?
presumably if they have to choose between food and hygiene, they're not paying very much in taxes

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TopicFun fact: there's no reason menstruation products shouldn't be free
averagejoel
11/30/20 2:25:29 PM
#26
Crono99 posted...
How do you prevent bad people from taking all the stock and reselling it?
if people know they can get it for free, it will presumably be pretty difficult to sell

How do you allow a woman to get more than usual if she needs it?
uh... let her ask for more?

How do you get companies to keep spending money to manufacture them if there's no profit
have them manufactured by the state and paid by taxes

and how do you ensure quality?
there's no reason to believe the quality would be any less under such a scenario

lol dude what kind of questions are these even

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TopicThere is no worse euphemism than "pass away".
averagejoel
11/29/20 7:45:06 PM
#7
"bought the farm" is definitely funnier

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TopicMan it really bothers Star Wars fans if you call that Ashoka girl black
averagejoel
11/29/20 2:36:08 PM
#49
SSJGrimReaper posted...
Knuckles is black
Knuckles is absolutely black-coded

but again, it's not fully clear to me that Ahsoka is

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TopicMan it really bothers Star Wars fans if you call that Ashoka girl black
averagejoel
11/29/20 1:20:09 PM
#12
there are definitely alien characters in star wars that are black-coded -- Kitt Fisto comes to mind because of his accent.

it's not clear to me that Ahsoka is one of them. I'd need to see some sort of evidence to be convinced

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TopicPeanut butter and...?
averagejoel
11/29/20 1:15:55 PM
#53
Simp posted...
@averagejoel
lol sometimes I forget that that's my actual signature

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TopicWhat is the most famous price?
averagejoel
11/28/20 8:24:18 PM
#10
the Right one

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TopicTwitter wants to cancel guitarist Eric Clapton for previous controversial remark
averagejoel
11/28/20 10:39:26 AM
#46
Sheiky-Baby posted...
He's a piece of shit, can't deny that. But one of the greatest guitarist of all time. Can't deny that as well. Him, and Hendrix changed the game.
imagine putting eric clapton on the same level as jimi hendrix

lol

just... lol

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TopicHow's your screenplay coming along CE?
averagejoel
11/27/20 3:27:53 PM
#15
when I write, it's generally non-fiction or short stories

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Topicisn't it crazy how america's failure to contain the coronavirus is a direct resu
averagejoel
11/27/20 1:09:34 PM
#36
ScazarMeltex posted...
Doesn't the quality of our elected leaders reflect on us as a society? Our society produces these people, our citizens elect them.
the citizens effectively aren't given any other choices. there is a conscious effort on the part of the major political parties to restrict those choices.

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Topicisn't it crazy how america's failure to contain the coronavirus is a direct resu
averagejoel
11/27/20 10:14:51 AM
#18
it has more to do with the people in power being unwilling to enact policy to protect people

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TopicWhat would you do if you walked in on your wife and she was doing this?
averagejoel
11/26/20 7:16:41 PM
#2
I would dance with her

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TopicAm I wrong to call it "working for free" if my pay only goes to bills?
averagejoel
11/26/20 1:00:00 AM
#12
huh

I've never thought of it like that, but this is pretty spot-on from the perspective of the worker

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