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#226: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - I've Forgotten You
Lea: 5/6
Mycro: 5.02/2.9
Total: 5.01/4.45 (4.73)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QohzIEHmJZk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=inyWpwWRhfc

This made me laugh, though I would not listen to it for fun or enjoyment. I prefer the accordian(?) of the evo mode.
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in the evo version, i hear this as a "serious song failing to be serios because it is too funny'', the cartoon sounds are WAY more prominent in the original and makes the intent clearer so i can intake the music as the material it's intended to be taken in as. I prefer the evo version instrumentation-wise in some ways but that factor, prominence of the cartoon sounds, really changes the way i interpret this between versions "bad at being serious spooky evil" (evo) to "actually evil clown from cartoon evil land" (original). i suppose there's some issues i have with evo's instrumentation ( the uncanny "fake but not fake enough") but there are also issues i have with the original's instrumentation ("TOO fake") so that factor balances out i guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-H-r5Ccz_Q

#225: Trails in the Sky - In my Heart
Place: 4.5/4.5
Lea: 5/5
Total: 4.75/4.75 (4.75)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rgdfJxJZYV8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VIHjsK--wKM

bought this music box for a buck fifty and it's got a ceramic mermaid on top for some reason. the molding on her face makes her look somewhat crosseyed. did i just listen to the same song twice?
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Lea forgot that the overall rankings won't be in the same order that she rated in, though I guess it works here

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Uglyface2 posted...

In most aspects of life, I hover somewhere between average and below average. It's easy to imagine that there's somebody who's simply a better specimen in every way, shape, and form.

I doubt anybody is better at self-loathing than you

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Wattson

ok i guess

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A formerly cruel and callous being that regrets his past and has grown to admire and want to protect those he once terrorized? Bigby and DEATH are gonna bro out, and thus I'm sure they will reach an agreement and DEATH will forfeit

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Welcome to the King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) Simulated Character Battle Tournament!

The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78971300

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
Bigby Wolf (Fables)


vs

DEATH (Discworld)


@trdl23

FIGHT

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Mario > Guile (5-1)
Spinel > Shadow (1-0) (after the match ended) (lol?)


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Pirateking2000 posted...

Spinel

you win the sudden death

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BetrayedTangy posted...

Wow were already at moms with 10 points, you must've really enjoyed the nominations this year!

i gave ur mom 10 points

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some people in this thread need to read up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes%27_theorem

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Wanglicious posted...

Ghost Trick #1 and should be at minimum fighting for #1 by anyone who's played it to the end.

Bold words from somebody who clearly hasn't played Steins;Gate

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#228: Ao no Kiseki - The All Knowing Ones
player0: 5/5
deo: 4.4/4.3
Total: 4.7/4.65 (4.675)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TdcE8Opw97w
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-zVVoMEUs48

Mysterious ambience as plot details are being revealed, it really gets going in the second half with some dramatic chord progressions. The remake has a lighter touch to it, but can't say it's any better worse.
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#227: Ao no Kiseki - And Yet Here We Are
Janus: 4/4.5
Mycro: 5.13/5.12
Total: 4.565/4.81 (4.6875)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e3f7z8Fp6bk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ab8oiqRe9a0

It's ORCHESTRAL and TRIUMPHANT and REPRISES THEMES wow I guess this must be an ending theme. I do like how it builds towards a massive refrain at the end.

Weird how Evos are usually longer than the original due to adding parts and then this is half the length. In this case that means getting to the climax sooner so I think that's fine, actually.
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i gave this pretty low score in my ranking topic; i like it a bit more now though. i don't mind the type of music it is, but this manifestation of the style does very little for me so i'm pretty neutral. some lightly emotional bits and slightly interesting things happen sometimes but i have to be digging for it, but at least i don't dislike anything about it. barely feel a difference but giving a slight nod to the original

Rip Crossbell

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Mephileses

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#230: Ao no Kiseki - Conflicting Passions
Place: 3/3.5
dowolf: 5.5/6.5
Total: 4.25/5 (4.625)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yTEA1HU7Wuc
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vrzR6NsWf2c

when i talk about the most standard, forgettable, 'driving' jrpg music formula, this is one of many examples i could pull from. i have a weird fixation about that-- the guitar followed by violin solo (or vice-versa) before the refrain. 0.5 difference is again a matter of preferring evo production in most cases. a sound that tends to fall in the 3-5 point window for me
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decent battle theme

#229: Zero no Kiseki - St. Ursula Medical College
Janus: 5.5/5
Lea: 4/4
Total: 4.75/4.5 (4.625)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GfFLf_PcJYI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=97vdjhU04TA

Very relaxing song. Doesn't wow me but does its job.

A bit busier at times, which in this case probably runs to its detriment since it's not as calming.
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These really made no impression on me

I don't really care about it, but I'm sure somebody (pyre, probably) is upset

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#232: Ao no Kiseki - A New Daily Life
player0: 5/6
dowolf: 5/2.5
Total: 5/4.25 (4.625)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3eGNYk9nTlE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8B4b6myB930

Daily Life...this sounds much more like a mellow night-time theme to me. In that sense, the remake finds its niche really nicely with the resonating echoes and deeper bass.
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Why is evo suddently so ominous? The melody still feels like it wants to be happy and it just isn't I'm confused. I don't remember it being like this playing Ao Evo maybe the upload's bad. Or my memory's bad. Certainly one of the two!

#231: Zero no Kiseki - Caught Between Major Powers
Raetsel: 3/5.5
dowolf: 4/6
Total: 3.5/5.75 (4.625)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qM2hW9zHsq4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cUNKHqLY7S8

The original version almost put me to sleep. Evo version isn't amazing, but at least avoids being sleep-inducing. It sounds like a tactics meeting track, where everyone discusses their strategy for the next big battle--it implies that interesting things WILL happen, just not right now because we're just gonna talk about all the awesome stuff that's going to be happening after this cutscene.
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Live instruments help a lot here.

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No

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ahahahahhaha christie has it too?? excellent

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Steins;Gate

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Parin - LAW Fodder
https://imgur.com/a/7JrbBHq

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Pumpkin Hill

100% for Ghost Pumpkin Soup

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Hbthebattle posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78984841

that topic is cursed please no

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I think this is slower than when Ginsburg died

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Can you guess what country someone is from just from a picture of them? i was surprised to find out i do!

https://www.allthetests.com/quiz23/quiz/1199677413/Can-You-Tell-East-SE-Asians-Apart-Find-Out-Here



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Welcome to the King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) Simulated Character Battle Tournament!

The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78971300

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
Spinel (Steven Universe)
https://i.imgur.com/zUprtmo.png

vs

Shadow the Hedgehog (Sanic)


@Pirateking2000 @ZenOfThunder

FIGHT

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colliding posted...

I actually do push back against the "karma" narrative. Let's not forget that most people who get this disease don't "deserve it." Karma minimizes the threat the disease still presents. It's not karma but it is some nice irony.

what

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Yakuza 0 has zombies in it!

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never ever put "because" in a poll option unless that's the point of the entire poll. it's the same mistake POTD makes nearly every time

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#234: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - Uninvited Guests
hb: 4.3/5.4
dowolf: 5.5/3
Total: 4.9/4.2 (4.55)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jfxc1kNt7Dk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Uony_aZViw

This song doesn't really interest me in any way beyond the chords at around 1:00 sounding PMD-ish. Other than that, the song doesn;t really do anything at all, so I struggle to care. The choir sounds and piano added by the Evo version might be a little silly, but they also give the song significantly more of its own identity and the added percussion helps too.
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horn in OG really makes the track. horn in evo just sounds off

#233: Zero no Kiseki - Paradise
Raetsel: 4.001/4.1
Mycro: 5.15/5.2
Total: 4.5755/4.65 (4.61275)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oUvUIQ5QtKE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2dkxfdfOpj4

There are short & simple songs that I like, but neither version of this song does anything for me. I'm sure the songs are fine in context, but "here's 30 seconds of mildly pleasant guitar" isn't exactly an award winning concept. They're just short, inoffensive blobs of genericness that fade into nothing before you have a chance to react. Original is slightly better.
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the original "sounds cooler" because it is 'fake' and has 'reverb' but that also results in a lack of subtlety, too much differentiation between individual notes to sound natural, not enough variants of volume/note length/etc, all these little tiny details make it sound unnatural. and sounding natural i find necesary for something like this, even if i think the 'timbre' of the original is cooler, getting someone real to play it was beneficial. I would say this is "too happy for me" but I have a thing for folk-y music and especially when it's organicly mixed meter with natural improvised sounding gaps like this. there's nothing i dislike about it but there's also not much there so i can't rate it too high. keep thinking i should bump the rating for these two way up though

I swear to god, I have a heart attack every time I see this track name before remembering the song

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#236: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - The Way of the Heart
player0: 4/4
Mycro: 5.01/5
Total: 4.505/4.5 (4.5025)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZHGnEcwHQ80
https://youtube.com/watch?v=haa4vFPI8mk

We are gathered here today to witness and celebrate the union of wedding music and video games...it's a pleasant enough track, but drags on a bit longer than it needs to. The remake does spice it up with some new instruments, but the general feel of the song remains the same.
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very neutral to this, original version is slightly punchier in a good way but if you showed me either individually and not side by side i wouldn't be able to name which is which

This is such a cool song in context, and so... underwhelming on it's own? This song at least has one of the weirdest in/out context juxtapositions

#235: Zero no Kiseki - Gazing at Your Back
Janus: 4.5/4
deo: 4.8/4.8
Total: 4.65/4.4 (4.525)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TT9ZgZ9qf7A
https://youtube.com/watch?v=y-EOQInQmN4

is this a song Randy wrote about Rixia ba-dum tiss

Slow, emotional xylophone(?) track. Not a lot to it but it's a nice reprise of Way of Life.

Ehhhh, those chords in the intro of the Evo are a little much. Feels like a lot more emphasis is placed on the backing instrument which makes it feel fuller but less emotionally resonant. The added part is nice.
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is this a song Randy wrote about Mireille ba-dum tiss

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NFUN posted...

ARMS
Banjo-Kazooie
Bayonetta
Donkey Kong
Dragon Quest
Duck Hunter
Fatal Fury
Game & Watch
Ice Climber
Kid Icarus
Pikmin
ROB
Splatoon
Star Fox
Wario
Xenoblade
Yoshi

not sure how "played" is precisely defined here. a few of these i've played maybe half a level, stoned, on my friend's snes classic

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#238: Trails in the Sky - The Disappearing Star
Raetsel: 5.401/6.04
dowolf: 5/1.5
Total: 5.2005/3.77 (4.48525)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=S4lzjNdbUOQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QVbsDnRHdGo

Sad songs that feel like they were designed for sad childhood flashbacks about sadness. Evo version sounds sadder than the original, which gives it a slightly better score.
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I am aggressively indifferent towards music boxes. Except Evo music boxes. It takes something very clean and just spreads it out in this super weird way. Maybe that's what orgels sound like in real life I dunno but.

Didn't expect to see polarized opinions for this one

#237: Trails in the Sky - Black Orbment
pyre: 5/4
NFUN: 5.2/3.8
Total: 5.1/3.9 (4.5)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=d8wPYCb-5hg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jzpAD1VKwc8

Nice tension-building song but it doesn't really stand out. Evo version sounds more like a haunted mansion theme which isn't really good in this case because it's a bit too corny. Also the organ held notes kind of dominate a bit too much.
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oh no spooky scary main motif

this sounds like what happens when i'm bored and messing around on a piano. good job holding down those pedals. the whole thing is kind of melodramatic and hamfisted... which was probably the intent, but it sounds worse and I can't take it seriously at all

I am pyre except slightly more PASSIONATE

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FL81 posted...

ok so like, with all the hate I see Singa getting for his works, I was expecting it to be actively bad

but this is still like a 6.7

it's an uncoordinated disaster of a song. it doesn't actively sound horrible, but it's impossible to actually listen and pay attention to while still taking it at all seriously. It's little more than three minutes of playing random guitar notes in a given key, and is probably the least well-constructed song I've ever heard

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Animal Crossing (have played for like half an hour... in japanese, which i dont speak, so i got nowhere)
ARMS
Banjo-Kazooie
Bayonetta
Castlevania
Donkey Kong
Dragon Quest
Duck Hunter
Fatal Fury
F-Zero
Game & Watch
Ice Climber
Kid Icarus
Metroid
Pikmin
ROB
Splatoon
Star Fox
Street Fighter
Wario
Xenoblade
Yoshi

not sure how "played" is precisely defined here. a few of these i've played maybe half a level, stoned, on my friend's snes classic

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

They went to town on Obama for asking for Dijon.

The counterfactual in this hypothetical is that Trump is obsessed with fast food, and did nonsense like feeding the champion basketball team McDonald's

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Xeybozn posted...

Imagine how much rage we'd see from right-wing media when a tape leaked of Bill saying he didn't care. It'd be the "But her e-mails!" of the 2020 election season.

Dude, they'd be going after him for deciding to go to McDonald's for dinner one night instead of appreciating the patriot cooks at the White House or some shit. What a sick world

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Star Butterfly > The Boss (3-2)
Death > Yujiro (5-3)

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Xeybozn posted...

It's really weird how the person who is married to the president automatically has to take on this sort of work. Why should we expect Melania to care about this stuff instead of having an official government role to handle it?

Imagine living in the world where Bill Clinton designed the Christmas decorations

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yes, and in supernatural death killed sam and dean as soon as he saw them so they couldnt restrain him and also destroyed chicago with a hurricane and killed everybody on earth and also sent dean to the neverrealm five seasons later in order to prevent the darkness from being released and killed sam himself for fun instead of telling dean to do it for his own satisfaction because supernatural's death just likes murder and never resents manipulation and just finds murder satisfying.

allow me to recap what actually happened in case you forgot:
1. Death didn't off Sam and Dean when they first confronted him because he hated being told who to kill
2. Death made a deal with Dean that he would free Sam in exchange for Dean being Death for a day
3. Death made a deal with Dean that he would isolate Dean in exchange for Dean killing Sam

Death had no deep metaphysical motivation to have Dean be Death for a day; he does it essentially to teach an aesop. Death had no deep metaphysical motivation to have Dean kill Sam; he does it essentially because it'd be entertaining. Supernatural's Death is capricious and spitefully independent. If he wakes up one day in a foreign place for the purpose of killing some rando, he's not going to do it without being forced because nobody is his master. This is in his character. He's effectively as old as the Universe, and he'd surely be fine to wait there for a virtual eternity. This is what he is. When he meets his opponent, he may kill them if they're annoying, but he wouldn't have a reason to zap them right away. He's patient, and likes to talk. This is in his character. As he has before, he'd be happy to make a deal to fulfill some cosmic irony or for his own entertainment. This is in his character. And as far as deals go, Hanma would probably be one of the most capable characters in the bracket in regards to fulfilling it, seeing as Death's deals are destructive.

Death is more likely to stubbornly resist, as the ultimate force in the Universe that believes he will eventually kill God, killing his opponent because he was told to than to just wipe them out. And him then making a deal pretty much falls under his MO.

Or, we could instead ignore any consideration of how Death acts in the show, act as if he's some emotionless, mindless force of entropy, and have endless discussions about whether he could kill <x> character, because trying to reconcile statements such as "The Darkness is the only thing that Death cannot kill" between franchises is definitely productive and worth our time. We already have the Darkness as a character. I think stretching to make Death another filler of that vaunted niche is not in anybody's best interest.

tldr; put up or shut up

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PrinceKaro posted...

changing the channel

edgy.

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The Utility Man posted...

All the moments where I chose not to watch it.

edgy

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uh, the opening

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Welcome to the King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) Simulated Character Battle Tournament!

The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78971300

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
Mario (Mario)


vs

Guile (Street Fighter)


@PrinceKaro @GavsEvans123

FIGHT

https://viewsync.net/watch?v=RT3NA5Q08mk&t=0&v=f8gIvHhloNg&t=0&mode=solo

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pyresword posted...

Honestly...I might rate the Evo version of Obstructive Existence higher than the original? The only part of it I don't like is that the clarinet player is getting way too aggressive with those pitch bends. The brass and rhythm parts are pretty good though imo.

see i read reviews like this and wonder if we're listening to the same music (which is a comment I stole from FL about him not understanding people hating motherfucking Feel Force)

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For the record, Obstructive Existence has the dubious distinctions of being both the lowest ranking Evo song and having the biggest disparity of scores between versions. It's all uphill from here (hopefully)

#239: Ao no Kiseki - Aoki Shizuku
Raetsel: 6.101/4.51
dowolf: 4.5/2.5
Total: 5.3005/3.505 (4.40275)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m8goHnqff98
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SRxLELXxjbg

The original song doesn't hit me as hard emotionally as I'd like, but I think I get what the artist was going for & I'll acknowledge it as a good song with a certain wistfulness. The Evo song isn't exactly bad, but feels rather hollow and soulless in comparison.
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#240: Trails in the Sky SC - Obstructive Existence
Janus: 6.5/1
NFUN: 7.1/2.8
Total: 6.8/1.9 (4.35)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pHo86x7jLWM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=b9gtigSx0Yc

I feel like this would be pretty cool if the trumpet were less overbearing - has an otherwise pretty cool jazzy feel. The piano part right before the loop is probably the best part.

Well, the trumpet is less overbearing at least. This is kinda just a mess.
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The original is very stressful, I'm not gonna lie. That's the point, obviously, but I still have a mini heart attack whenever it starts. Otherwise, pretty good song. More interesting than FC's monster chest theme at least, and does the job of unnervingly hyping you well while still being decent to listen to

I laughed at this one too. God, in the original the trumpets seemed a little detuned but in this they just seem in completely the wrong key. It's way more dissonant than it should be. Jumping from the off-key trumpet to the squeaky trumpet to the even MORE outrageously off trumpet accompanied by BONGOs is just peak Singa. I hand the rest of the review to Umutsol: "Nothing hit me the way Obstructive Existence hit me though. That one is just a RIOT. It feels like the instruments are horribly depressed and want to escape from the whole soundtrack . But seriously, it makes me sad, but I still laugh. This song would be like 10 times better if the wind instruments didn't off themselves each note. that's my biggest problem. The trumpets go BRRRrrrrr.... Oh god, the section towards 1:40. I think Joshua heard this when <FC> he was talking to Weissman"

I honestly listen to Evo more, because it never fails to absolutely slay me. This is a song I had no idea how to rank, so I decided this feels about right... it still feels way too high, but points for being fucking hilarious, I guess

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Shonen_Bat posted...

it's literally her life's goal that she's already poured a ton of research into, but sure

either way it's still "I don't like this argument so I'm changing the rules to prevent it"

Note that I only ruled that he wouldn't be immune to the compulsion, and only argued that he'd be chasing her during the match. When drak gave his aforementioned take, I didn't correct him or invalidate him as being against the rules of the match

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oh, by the way, three songs of the last songs had the exact same rating. If you're curious as to how I decided upon tiebreakers, it's to do nothing and order them however the document decided to (alphabetical by song, i think)

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#242: Zero no Kiseki - Water, Greenery and Blue Sky
player0: 2/4
dowolf: 4.5/6.5
Total: 3.25/5.25 (4.25)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9zmpL-jY4Fo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=66vz-8LglDY

Songs like these make me empathize with people who hate happy town themes! Sometimes music just shoves too much happiness in your face and it feels like a dystopian future's brainwashing tape that says "SMILE LIKE THE WORLD IS WATCHING". The remake at least adds some good reverb and fun bongos, like a discount Octopath town theme.
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PUT THE FISHING ROD DOWN AND BACK AWAY. I like Evo's rhythm section.

Perhaps the worst field theme in Zero so two for two i guess

#241: Zero no Kiseki - Tomorrow the Wind to the Future Will Blow
Raetsel: 5.37/6.5
Mycro: 2.6/2.8
Total: 3.985/4.65 (4.3175)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p6Xq-w7yn8w
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AQe_o3tQ8pQ

Both versions sound like they're going for an "old west saloon" type of sound, but only the Evo version fully nails it.
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another folky acoustic one that benefits from live instrumentation like in the evo version. unfortunately i don't like this incarnation of folk music as much as <WHOA THERE NELLY DID YOU JUST SPOIL A RANKING?> but at least it reminds me of deserts and i like deserts : )

This song belongs in Orre. I didn't like it much at first but it grew on me a lot and deserves better. Too bad Mycro got all of the folksy songs he hates

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Shonen_Bat posted...

but that was the reasoning for why she couldn't do that or try to research a sealing spell for Death... I guess it doesn't matter now, but that's pretty gross

the reasoning she can't make herself immortal is that it's fucking stupid as a strategy

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xp1337 posted...

I mean that's distributed over 10 games! (or 11 if they're counting Nayuta in that)

Twist: they're also counting Akatsuki no Kiseki

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I guess Yujiro gets it

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