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| Topic | Reminder: Witcher 3's combat was basic af |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 11:25:16 AM #5 | It's combat was fine, sort of slowed down hack-n-slash. The pirouettes and such were kind of dumb if you think about them in combat, but that's also from the source material so I can give them a pass on that. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 11:17:25 AM #159 | Vyrulisse posted... It's a stupid thing that should just be patched out or altered. Easy fix, everyone wins. There's no real need for debate here. Literally what they're doing. The argument at this point is if it should be optional or removed entirely, and if CDPR's response should be factored in before they get dragged through the mud. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 11:14:09 AM #156 | shockthemonkey posted... scar the 1 posted...I suppose you could say there's a bit of a difference between allergens that foodstuffs naturally contain and a feature specifically designed to cause a medical reaction added to a product for no good reason.Seems like the most blatantly obvious distinction ever It's an arbitrary distinction. They're both things with the potential to cause harm. They're both added to enhance the experience of the larger product. They're both invisible to people that they'd harm until they get harmed for the first time. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 11:01:48 AM #148 | For a little additional context, I discovered that I have a severe allergy to avocado (specifically natural latex that is largely found in avocados, bananas, etc) by eating a sandwich that had it, and then confirmed that allergy when I later ate some California rolls. You don't see me arguing to have avocados removed from all store shelves. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:58:49 AM #145 | DezDroppedFreak posted... Im curious to know what makes you think the two situations are remotely comparable The argument is that someone who doesn't know they are prone to seizures may see the flashing and have one. Explain to me how someone not knowing they have a severe food allergy eating that ingredient and going into anaphylactic shock is any different. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:55:06 AM #140 | shockthemonkey posted... What is so hard about just admitting that games shouldnt have any parts that induce seizures? What is so hard about admitting food shouldn't have ingredients that cause anaphylactic shock? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:53:47 AM #135 | GregShmedley posted... Corrupt_Power posted...Ok. Are you willing to make the same argument for removing all common food allergy ingredients from all food? Because that's what you're effectively arguing. No real response, just a lame attempt at derision. Gotcha. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:36:19 AM #127 | DezDroppedFreak posted... Because a potential seizure causing addition for people who dont know theyre at risk for epileptic events in the name of immersion is pretty fucking stupid Ok. Are you willing to make the same argument for removing all common food allergy ingredients from all food? Because that's what you're effectively arguing. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:26:37 AM #120 | GregShmedley posted... It's not so much that you aren't acknowledging the issue, but rather your obtuse defense of CDPR for not catching this at first and insisting it should stay. There is no reason a sequence, designed to induce seizures, should stay in a video game, regardless of the intent. I can respect an honest mistake and a genuine attempt to resolve it. Sorry you can't. It fits the game's narrative. Explain to me why an option to disable it, that you are forced to set one way or the other on game startup, is not sufficient for you, and instead it must be full-stop removed. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:22:52 AM #118 | scar the 1 posted... I think I mostly took issue with your insistence on your reading of the topic title as the "correct" one. Totally fair that's probably been one of my major weak points throughout my life. It's funny, my current job that I started a little over a year ago is pretty much entirely filled with people like me, the owner included, and the owner is constantly driving all of us to avoid entrenching into our own opinions. Been getting better about it, but CE tends to bring the worst out in me still. As for game design discussion, I'm not nearly rested enough to have a really in-depth conversation on that, lol. Our six-month old has really screwed my sleep schedule! --- |
| Topic | I almost flipped out today, but I controlled myself |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:15:09 AM #8 | Threatening to call the police is just as dickish as exploding on them. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:11:00 AM #109 | GregShmedley posted... Seems pretty straightforward, bro. You are the one that seems to have a problem grasping the issue at hand here. To clarify, tell me what you think the issue is, and how I'm having a hard time grasping it. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:09:25 AM #107 | soulunison2 posted... witcher is trash too, go play a perfect game like mega man battle network 3 double hurr durr --- |
| Topic | Just closed 1453 tabs |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:07:17 AM #3 | Fucking why --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:05:16 AM #102 | soulunison2 posted... are you going to ignore the fact that the game is actual trash hurr durr --- |
| Topic | What could be wrong with my PC? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:04:58 AM #26 | SkittyOnWailord posted... Try unplugging your D drive and see if it still happens. You could put one game on your C drive to test that too. That's one thing to try as well the drive may be failing. How old is it? --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 10:03:40 AM #98 | harley2280 posted... That's an ability that like 80% of this site doesn't have. Yeah. I can still hope now and then, though. @scar_the_1 so then can we agree that we seem to be reading the topic title in different ways and both agree that CDPR was negligent to not better forewarn / mitigate the flashing? I'm of the opinion that it was an honest mistake and they are working in good faith to remedy it, which you disagree with. You consider the negligence to be on the level of being indistinguishable from malice, which is a concept I don't believe in. I don't think we're going to move past that, and we can leave it there. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm a bit hyper-literal. I want things to be interpreted in explicit ways. I always have. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but misinterpretations and foggy concepts lead to shit like this in the first place. --- |
| Topic | What could be wrong with my PC? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:57:03 AM #24 | FF_Redux posted... Yeah not at all open to clean install right now. Dang. Always makes things so much easier from the troubleshooting side to just go that route, lol FF_Redux posted... Now it happened again. But GPU went to 0%, I could still use mouse, open folders, music from the game dissappeared but I could hear the wind in it. D drive went to 100%. Then the game just shut off and things went back to normal. Display driver crashing, possibly. Do this:
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| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:52:55 AM #91 | Hippocrates posted... Ok, have fun twisting in the wind arguing literally nothing then I will! And you enjoy having no sense of nuance or capacity for reasonable discussion. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:51:07 AM #88 | Hippocrates posted... I'm not "trying to rile you" I'm sorry if that isn't your point, but it is mine. It's disingenuous to imply that CDPR intentionally, knowingly created something that has a high chance of causing seizures, and made no warning or option to mitigate it, when the real issue at hand appears to be people being toxic to a reviewer who pointed it out. Unless there's good proof that they chose to do something so malicious, it isn't fair to assume that they did. Yes, as I've said a million times already in this topic, they fucked up, and having it brought to their attention is good. The fact that they jumped on it and are putting together something to mitigate it is good. That needs to be taken into account as well. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:47:14 AM #81 | harley2280 posted... GameRaven is fantastic. I'm very rarely at a PC that isn't for work, and it's so much better than the mobile version of the site. Thanks! One of these days I'll get around to releasing 3.6.0 to stable... JE19426 posted... Really? You think maybe causing seizures in your customers is a good business model for a cyberpunk corporation? When you're reprogramming a brain to accept and interface with cybernetics? It's an interesting concept, yeah. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:43:28 AM #72 | Hippocrates posted... he's the guy who coded it and he's usually good. I'm not sure why he's being such a gamer itt I'm going to hazard a guess he knows this and is just trying to rile me. Same as you. Have fun with that. --- |
| Topic | What could be wrong with my PC? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:42:31 AM #21 | Hmm. Audio works outside of games, and when things lock up outside of games monitor and audio feeds continue, but input hangs for a while and then catches up. It could be the search indexer. It could also be a lot of other things. How open are you to backing up things you want to keep a hold of and doing a fresh, clean install of Windows? --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:39:07 AM #63 | scar the 1 posted... And you're using your made up definition of the term "game mechanic" to infer what others are implying It's not my "made up definition", a game mechanic is literally a mechanic created by the developers to specifically do or provide something. Unintended side-effects are not mechanics. They are side-effects. Are you just trying to be confrontational now? I've already stated that if they did have knowledge of what they were doing, that's pretty bad, and there's growing possibility that they did. Can you be an adult as well and at least acknowledge that they are doing something about it? --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:34:01 AM #57 | ghostblob posted... You are disgusting. It should quite obviously be removed from the game ASAP. I disagree with it needing to be removed entirely. It fits within the world and makes for an interesting concept as a whole. An option to disable it would be a good idea, however. --- |
| Topic | What could be wrong with my PC? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:32:43 AM #17 | FF_Redux posted... When playing RoR2 GPU is at 50-70% most of the time. Interesting. Can you say with any certainty if audio ever stuttered or stopped outside of video games? --- |
| Topic | What could be wrong with my PC? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:31:02 AM #15 | mattymad posted... What's on Disk D? Was the game installed there? What about your OS? I'm betting it's a spinning disk, and Windows Search Indexer was probably banging away at it. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:30:03 AM #50 | Hippocrates posted... remember when cyberpunk games weren't political? deus ex is how you do apolitical cyberpunk right What? Cyberpunk games are almost always political. And this isn't even a political thing we're discussing. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:27:38 AM #45 | k darkfire posted... No it's not. They literally have warnings before you start. GTFO with this moral posturing. It's non-sense. Maybe she shouldnt play video games? If a few flashing lights causes her seizues maybe she shouldnt play games. Forcing CDPR to change their vision to cater to a small minority is insane. This is why the industry sucks. You literally can skip it too. Nobody is forcing you to watch. Don't victim-blame. It doesn't help. --- |
| Topic | Dez Bryant has positive COVID test before game tonight. Game goes on as planned. |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:26:41 AM #9 | Taharqa_ posted... Soooo...the rest of his teammates have been exposed as well. They should be under COVID protocol too. That's what I'm wondering. How does the NFL justify that? --- |
| Topic | What could be wrong with my PC? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:25:53 AM #12 | Ok. Define freezing exactly. What stops responding? Everything, mouse and keyboard included? If you have something playing on your monitor, a game or a video, or audio, do those freeze too? Does your monitor black out at all? --- |
| Topic | If that asteroid hadn't killed the dinosaurs millions of years ago do you think |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:24:11 AM #4 | No, we'd all be lizard-bird men and there would be conspiracy theories about the underground monkeymen who control everything. --- |
| Topic | At an intersection with traffic lights at night, do you watch other lights when |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:22:43 AM #8 | If I can get a good view of the lights, I'll do it at any time. --- |
| Topic | What could be wrong with my PC? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:21:43 AM #10 | Your GPU is maxed and your CPU is under almost half load, what else are you doing in that screenshot? Do you know how to use Event Viewer? --- |
| Topic | "If you think we need to spend 30k then we'll do it", CEO to me |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:14:18 AM #2 | Are you the same guy who posted about possibly quitting work because you're bored and you manipulate everyone in your workplace? --- |
| Topic | Is it canon that every system update just screws up your phone further? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:13:16 AM #7 | pinky0926 posted... Not intending to play devil's advocate or anything, but I work in software development and I can say from experience that no matter how good the feature or the improvement, if you force people to do a task in a slightly different way then the way they are entrenched in without sufficient warning and expectations set - then they will always, 100% of the time complain about it. Oh, absolutely. Just look at every major new version of Windows. People lose their mind when things change, even if it is objectively for the better. It's honestly my biggest pet peeve of all time. --- |
| Topic | Is it canon that every system update just screws up your phone further? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:06:58 AM #5 | saspa posted... I mean, they're all the same aren't they. I'm not crazy about samsung either, it's just what I happened to get and didn't feel like changing things since none of them will have exactly what I'm looking for in a phone (which isn't much) They absolutely are not the same! Android is a lot like Windows, in that it's a base operating system that anyone can muck with. Pixels are Surfaces in this metaphor hardware made and managed by the same company that makes the OS, giving tight integration, quick updates, good support, and fast, stock OS experience. Samsung is Lenovo, or Dell, or HP, in that they make their own hardware, screw around with the OS, and add a bunch of junk. As they aren't the creators of the OS, they don't care as much about how the actual OS operates and how quickly and cleanly updates are provided. --- |
| Topic | Lmao @ that topic getting deleted and YoJoe getting warned |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 9:02:57 AM #1 | Was going to play along, but mods beat me to it. --- |
| Topic | How is it offensive or against TOS to point out Joe Biden is creepy with kids? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:56:51 AM #12 | YoJoe posted... Its not misguided and I got modded for calling Biden an appropriate name for someone who does inappropriate things with children. (Which he is literally on film doing). Lmao. I'm guessing you called him a pedophile then? It blows my mind how dense some people are here on why they were modded. --- |
| Topic | There is actually sometimes serious casualties of PC/cancel culture |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:55:34 AM #2 | Cancel culture has become just another avenue for people to rage and feel superior. There are legitimate things that have come from it but a lot of it is just more us vs. them mentality fostering. --- |
| Topic | How is it offensive or against TOS to point out Joe Biden is creepy with kids? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:52:14 AM #4 | Projecting --- |
| Topic | New 90 Day Fiance is starting off right |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:51:52 AM #21 | The only way it could start off right is if they announced it was cancelled and then cut to some other show. --- |
| Topic | i love watching nigella cook food on telly |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:50:34 AM #9 | Do... do people actually say microwave that way? Or was she just being tongue-in-cheek? --- |
| Topic | KotOR 2 coming to Android |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:48:54 AM #12 | Master_Bass posted... Cool, I won't buy it because I have the Steam version, but KotOR on more platforms is always good. I've bought the first KotOR on pretty much every platform it's ever released on. I'm trying to not do the same with KotOR 2, lol. --- |
| Topic | Is KOTOR playable on mobile (phone)? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:45:09 AM #3 | Runs really well, but touch controls really suck IMO. --- |
| Topic | Is it canon that every system update just screws up your phone further? |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:44:49 AM #2 | Your first mistake was getting a Samsung and not a Pixel. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:39:35 AM #38 | Drpooplol posted... There's no way on planet fucking earth nobody in the decision-making chairs didn't know what that mechanic was. See, you say that, I say that there's no way on earth they'd let it go to release without even a warning requiring an acknowledgement at game start about it. --- |
| Topic | CDPR fanboys unironically defending an epilepsy mechanic |
| Corrupt_Power 12/09/20 8:35:16 AM #35 | scar the 1 posted... Why is it important? It's not less of an "epilepsy mechanic" if they didn't explicitly designed it for that purpose. ...except it literally is. A mechanic is something designed to do something specific or work a certain way in a game. scar the 1 posted... On the other side, the defenders of CDPR are literally sending seizure-inducing videos to the woman who originally raised concerns about this And that's amazingly fucked up, yes. scar the 1 posted... And you're here essentially making the semantic argument that people shouldn't imply this was an intended feature. They're the same stance. People are making this out like CDPR knew what they were doing with this. The title of this topic implied it. That's what I'm arguing against. They fucked up and are addressing it. Go apeshit all you want on the people sending seizure-inducing videos, but don't misrepresent the root issue. Now, per new info in DezDroppedFreak's post they may actually have had knowledge of what they were doing based on the source material, then yes, that's a problem. My stance would change in that case. I would also put forward that from a world-building point of view, using induced seizures as part of cybernetics installation is an interesting concept, and with proper warning and options to tone down / disable that specific effect, is not something that should be deserving of getting cancelled over. Yes, the options and warnings aren't there. They're working on them though, and that ought to be at least acknowledged. --- |
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