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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/25/21 12:10:51 AM
#234
Ogurisama posted...
(video game)
longshot guess: Barry Steakfries from Jetpack Joyride

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TopicDoes anyone else think Skittles are too difficult of a candy?
Sahuagin
07/22/21 9:40:40 PM
#16
any candies that are too hard, one thing I do that can help is squeeze them (gently) in your hand for a bit and that can soften them up

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/22/21 6:38:07 PM
#226
Ogurisama posted...
(logo)
Starbucks Logo? Looking it up, the mermaid figure is known as "The Siren".

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/21/21 11:20:25 PM
#159
adjl posted...
Fundamentally, trans acceptance means expecting opposite-sex nudity wherever same-sex nudity is expected
not convinced of this, but I think it's too dangerous to argue further.

adjl posted...
There is, however, no intrinsic basis for that norm
there are definitely biological and psychological reasons for that norm. it's not arbitrary. it depends how far you're taking "intrinsic". if you take it all the way to nihilism, fine, there's no intrinsic basis for anything in our culture. but that's ridiculous and destroys morality as a concept.

and regardless, the norm exists, and we know it exists, and we know what we can and can't do in that sense to offend (harm) others. morality is about coexisting with other people and if other people don't want to be around nudity, then you honor that.

at least at this moment, I am of the opinion that it's other's right not to be exposed to my nudity; it is not my right to be able to expose others to nudity against their will, in basically any context. even in a situation where it would be normal/excepted, it's still a discomfort and something I would apologize for.

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/21/21 10:51:28 PM
#220
Ogurisama posted...
Yogi Bear

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/21/21 10:28:04 PM
#217
Ogurisama posted...
(DKC)

(Dkc)
well, Cranky Kong and Funky Kong I guess

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TopicAnyone listening to video game soundtracks?
Sahuagin
07/21/21 10:26:35 PM
#23
TopicI just wanna let y'all know I just wanna make yall giggle and warm fuzzy
Sahuagin
07/21/21 7:32:55 PM
#7
Lokarin posted...
Did you know that tigers don't have the necessary eye parts to see orange? They think they're green and that they're hiding in the green grass

However, deer also have this fault so a bright orange tiger in green grass just looks like green green green to them
k that's cool if true

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TopicMusic instruments
Sahuagin
07/21/21 2:08:23 PM
#19
I can play piano but I'm not super good at it

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/21/21 2:07:38 PM
#207
Revelation34 posted...
Mobile changed the shirt color. It was red on PC.
I see brown haired guy with red and white striped shirt which makes me think Where's Waldo but I don't know what that would have to do with two swords

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TopicGood Songs: Episode 4
Sahuagin
07/21/21 3:35:30 AM
#398
k I really like Carpenter Brut

Roller Mobster (Hotline Miami 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfybn_W8Ak

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TopicHas anyone ever used gamepad and mouse at the same time on P.C?
Sahuagin
07/21/21 3:33:54 AM
#11
maybe mouse for menus and gamepad for gameplay but that's it I think

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TopicIs the spell demi only in final fantasy games?
Sahuagin
07/21/21 12:45:02 AM
#12
it's not an easy spell to balance is probably why most games don't use that kind of ability. I think FF goes with the idea/irony that you can potentially deal a LOT of damage with it, but at the same time can't really kill anything with it (the ultimate in diminishing returns).

but then to "balance" it, like with most spell effects, FF just gives complete immunity to 90% of enemies. (FF really needs/needed a saving throw system or something).

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/21/21 12:35:32 AM
#191
Ogurisama posted...
One more to solve
so far all I get from google is Cheeseburger Freedom Man

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/19/21 1:32:02 AM
#151
wolfy42 posted...
Obviously that is the entire point of defining it, based on junk.

They are not splitting up the rooms based on what gender someone feels like. The point is to keep people with different junk seperate. This would be especially important for horny teenagers for instance, do you think it's a good idea for a bunch of teens to be in multi-junk based hot tubs naked?

The whole point of male or female restrooms, changing rooms etc, is based on sexual organs. If you have male junk, use a male restroom, if you have female junk, use a female one. If you FEEL like your the wrong gender, then dress that way, live that way, be that way, but until you have surgery, use any area with nudity involved that fits your current junk status.
the rooms are segregated based on gender, not sex. I have no idea if that's right or not, but that's how it is.

my position is basically, organize the rooms however you want, just tell people how you're organizing them. for a person to end up in this situation, it means that that was not clearly conveyed, which regardless of right or wrong, should be something we want to avoid.

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/19/21 12:53:50 AM
#149
adjl posted...
The question is whether or not it's reasonable to be upset by naked trans people in an environment where naked people are expected. It has everything to do with trans people and everything to do with whether or not they're being accepted (and, in turn, to their suicide risk).
no because the issue would still exist if a woman entered a unisex spa without realizing that there would be male nudity. trans is not the problem at all. being able to enter a situation with opposite-sex nudity without realizing (or wanting) it is the problem.

adjl posted...
Spongebob tattoo
because there is an implicit agreement between people that they will generally not be exposed to nudity without their consent, even to the degree that in the majority of environments it would be illegal to do so; whereas there are no such generally accepted rules regarding random cartoon characters. (this is of course due to the sexual-related nature of nudity, even when it is not explicitly sexual). (and consent to be exposed to female nudity is not consent to be exposed to male nudity and vice-versa.)

adjl posted...
not anything inherently immoral about nudity
nudity is not intrinsically immoral, nudity without consent is, which you just glossed over

adjl posted...
If that shocks you
it's not that it shocks me, if that's your position that's your position.

if it's not clear, I'm not going to say "omg everyone, adjl thinks <thing>!", I will only take into consideration what you're saying and see if I should update my own thinking likewise, or not

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/18/21 1:44:40 PM
#140
Clench281 posted...
This guy is actually rolling with this argument isn't he. Trying to compare a spa (where people go to intentionally be naked) to an elementary school
jeepers.

that's not an argument, it's a hypothetical (IE I haven't concluded anything); I'm only inquiring as to the limits of adjl's position that nudity is morally neutral

I didn't say an elementary school I said elementary-school-aged, as in the OP

the whole point with this is that I might be wrong, but I have to figure out where and why. or at least understand where the core difference in our positions is, and then agree to disagree if there's no budging from there.

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TopicWhich if these games should I not play first 'cuz I'm a sad sack who sads
Sahuagin
07/18/21 2:54:50 AM
#16
I guess I missed the part where you said _not_ play first

Red_Frog posted...
I like Inquisitor. Maybe because I do like the world of 40K, but don't generally have a taste for the games and this one is just closer to my interests than most. I bought the whole thing in a sale after getting the base as a GwG.
it's not terrible and has its good points. I played through both parts and enjoyed it well enough.

pros: pretty great WH40k lore; I was the male psyker and really liked the voice actor; the combat is at least somewhat enjoyable; the story, setting, and atmosphere are all pretty great

cons: a lot of the voice acting is not so great; the itemization is pretty lousy; everything is kind of a "not that great" version of diablo mechanics; difficulty can be arbitrarily changed at any time so the game doesn't really feel challenging; a fair bit of "microtransaction" style mechanics; the level design is extremely dull

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/18/21 2:22:29 AM
#137
good god

adjl posted...
So give me a reason. Demonstrate how/why nudity is not inherently morally neutral.
to be clear, it's exposing someone to nudity against their will that is immoral. nudity in a vacuum is amoral without someone to view it.

adjl posted...
being weighed against the profound psychological benefit of accepting trans people as their target gender
being weighed against? it doesn't even really have anything to do with trans. ideally a person should not be able to enter a situation where they will be exposed to male (or female) nudity against their will.

adjl posted...
So replace "transphobe" with "somebody that really doesn't like Spongebob."
well if you're really stuck at "subjecting someone to nudity against their will is morally neutral" there's no sense arguing at a higher level.

adjl posted...
Saying "I think it's great that you're so obviously different from everyone else here! We're going to publicly announce that people that are so obviously different from everyone else here are still welcome here so that anyone that does have a problem with how obviously different you are knows not to come see how obviously different you are!" is not acceptance.
so should I feel offended for having to use the mens' room and not the ladies' room?

adjl posted...
just a lady getting uppity because she's convinced herself that
the problem here is that you are making yourself the arbiter of what other people should and shouldn't find... I want to say "offensive" but it doesn't even have to be that. the person in question here is pro-trans, but just didn't want to be around male nudity with her daughter. a person has a right to be able to choose to be around male nudity or not.

the fact that you are basically arguing here that "there is no particular reason to warn people, including parents with young children, of the presence of male nudity" is frankly a little nauseating. (and actually it's worse than that, since you're demeaning the person on top of that.)

I want to ask "is exposing yourself in public" at least wrong, but I guess I already did and you gave a non-answer.

so are you really saying that it would not be wrong for random adults to go naked around elementary school age children that they don't know, for non-sexual reasons, and without the consent of the children or their parents?

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/18/21 1:40:16 AM
#178
Ogurisama posted...
Gimli?

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/17/21 1:24:01 AM
#153
Ogurisama posted...
Le Chuck

I've not played Monkey Island 3 yet, but this seems to be Murray

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TopicWhich if these games should I not play first 'cuz I'm a sad sack who sads
Sahuagin
07/16/21 3:11:33 AM
#12
Lokarin posted...
Looks like Warhammer won
that's what I suggest, but it's not actually all that great of a game. good lore experience, but the gameplay is like the worst diablo-style gameplay I've ever seen. it's not terrible, but it's not great.

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TopicWikipedia Founder says DON'T Trust the Site because LIBERAL MODS Took Over!!!
Sahuagin
07/16/21 2:15:56 AM
#7
dunno about left vs right (other than yeah, wiki leans a bit left), but I learned from experience "the bias inherent in the system". there are pages that are "guarded" by people with agendas and they will do anything to defend opinions that they want represented on those pages.

and not something all that political either, this was about XML Schema. some crazy guy was posting anti-XML opinions on the page that were clearly a violation of NPOV (neutral point-of-view) and NOR (no original research) (including posting model images that contained swearing like "look at this shit"), but because the guy guarding that page was biased in favor of XML criticisms he refused to accept that statements like that were non-neutral and constituted original research, so I was 1v2 on trying to remove it.

the guy even reported me to admins, who thankfully just said "what are you talking about, he's basically right" but didn't do anything more than that.

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TopicWhats a game/series that you wish had a sequel or another entry?
Sahuagin
07/16/21 2:04:49 AM
#110
TopicWhats a game/series that you wish had a sequel or another entry?
Sahuagin
07/15/21 3:54:36 PM
#105
Buddyblade posted...
Can everyone who played some of the old genesis titles like dynamite headdy, Kid Chameleon, Gunstar Heroes, Ristar, Vectorman, etc. agree Sega could bring back some of those characters if they want to be good again?
maybe but the gameplay would need to be the focus, not relying on the presence of the character to sell the product by itself ending up with an otherwise shallow game.

Kid Chameleon for example, it would be easy to slap a "Kid Chameleon" skin on a game, add some game mechanics that sort of resemble the original, but completely miss what was unique and interesting about the way the game played and felt.

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/15/21 3:04:21 PM
#108
Ogurisama posted...
(boss, game series)
Twinrova?

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TopicRemember when Arv could post like this
Sahuagin
07/15/21 4:23:32 AM
#3
you've been doing the arv thing for 11+ years?

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 11:46:50 PM
#101
Ogurisama posted...
Sauron? (the red eye) (I guess it's called The Eye of Sauron)

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 11:45:05 PM
#99
Ogurisama posted...
cyclops? (x-men)

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/14/21 11:26:06 PM
#133
adjl posted...
If you're discussing the morality of something that is morally neutral, you can only ever make neutral statements
you're just saying "it's morally neutral so it's morally neutral". you're starting with a moral conclusion and pretending that that's the starting point.

adjl posted...
It has a degree of wrongness,
that's almost all I'm looking for

but whether or not that wrongness justifies demands to stop doing
no, doesn't necessarily need to go that far. maybe, justifies the intuition that we'd rather not do that if we can avoid it.

adjl posted...
Again, I bring up the full-body Spongebob tattoo.
ok, "a situation she was not expecting and would have avoided if she had had the option and been informed about the situation"

adjl posted...
Does that mean a person with such a tattoo shouldn't be permitted there?
I don't ever recall saying anything about the person not being permitted to be there. I have repeatedly said that the woman should have been made to understand the situation.

adjl posted...
Well, there is that whole thing where trans people that are accepted as their target gender in most aspects of their life
I don't think I've said anything about that. the trans person is not at fault. the presence of a trans-inclusive spa is fine. allowing a woman that is not comfortable being there to experience the situation that she experienced, when she would have chosen not to given all the information, is not ok.

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TopicWhy does it feel like philosophy is both the most and least important thing?
Sahuagin
07/14/21 8:35:28 PM
#8
philosophy has no right answers, only wrong answers (which is fine that's just what it is). as soon as it has right answers it starts being something else, like science.

and it's still very useful despite having no right answers, since it does definitely find and identify wrong answers. and some answers are less blatantly wrong than others, and some while insufficient are still decently applicable and useable.

Clench281 posted...
Everything that remains is basically unimportant
not unimportant, just unanswered for the time being, but still under discussion.

can we build fully conscious AIs is still a philosophical question for the time being, since it doesn't seem like everything we know about the brain and AIs should be able to result in something like consciousness. how is that even possible? how can there possibly be conscious experience from regular matter that's just arranged the right way? what is going on there that we're missing?

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 6:26:39 PM
#93
Ogurisama posted...
sif?


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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 6:24:51 PM
#91
Ogurisama posted...
Why?
too easy I guess

Ogurisama posted...
easter bunny


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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 6:23:21 PM
#89
Ogurisama posted...
Ant-Man but I'm not exactly proud of guessing that


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TopicDo they make can openers that actually last?
Sahuagin
07/14/21 6:19:14 PM
#10
Straughan posted...
can's explosive juice
hmmm... can shouldn't be "explosive". that can be an indication that the contents have gone rotten, since the decomposing builds pressure. it should even maybe do the opposite, and suck some air in when you break the seal.

(I know this from experience attempting to open a large can of rotten olives, that sprayed me in the face with rotten olive juice as I opened it.)

for can openers, I have been using one of these for many years without issue (though it opens the can a bit differently than a regular one) (ie: by sawing the top off rather than by pushing the lid out):
https://www.amazon.ca/Starfrit-Mightican-Manual-Can-Opener/dp/B000X9CDY4

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 6:06:53 PM
#86
Ogurisama posted...
(Popular platforming game)
Angry Sun (rare SMB3 enemy)

Ogurisama posted...
(Marvel)
Scarlet Witch

Ogurisama posted...
(Marvel)
Doctor Strange?

Ogurisama posted...
(Gaming series)
Luigi?

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/14/21 5:48:14 PM
#131
PunishedOni posted...
i dont want to see your posts, please stop posting.
valid point, if you're in a place where you can reasonably expect to see/hear certain things, it's now on you, not others. you know exactly what kinds of things you are likely and not likely to see here, and if there were unexpectedly obscene things here, then there would/should be a disclaimer of some kind. (or it should be modded away, and yes posting something particularly disturbing for others to see here is an immoral act.)

the problem, going back to the OP, is that the woman ended up in a situation that she was not expecting. she should have had an understanding of what she could encounter before entering the situation. (I don't think I said this yet, but before I read this topic I didn't know that spas had anything whatsoever to do with nudity.)

it is possible that the cultural understanding of "spa" for most people is that it involves nudity. the problem is that if being in the women's section of a spa can involve being exposed to male nudity, that should be communicated. the attitude seems to be "oh don't you know, we updated what these terms mean for everyone; you didn't expect that? haha, sucks to be you" rather than "we would prefer everyone has a clear understanding of the situation so that no one finds themselves in a situation that they don't want to be in, so we go out of our way to communicate that information to all guests".

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/14/21 4:51:15 PM
#128
adjl posted...
Why would you believe something is harmful if you can't find evidence of it causing harm?
objective harm is not necessary. showing someone something they don't want to see is immoral. even if their reasons are purely personal. spoilers, or maybe someone doesn't want to know the gender of their baby, etc. there's a degree of wrongness if you knowingly expose someone to something they don't want to know or see or hear, etc.

it doesn't even matter if you think they're "overly-sensitive" or something, it still has a degree of wrongness.

the exception would only be, like for a lot of these kinds of things, "extenuating circumstances", where some greater need overrides this issue.

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/14/21 4:43:26 PM
#126
adjl posted...
Yes, that tautology is the point of that phrase. People who are being bad are being bad.
yeah but that's a meaningless statement; a statement of zero value. if that's your conclusion then you've obtained zero insight into anything.

adjl posted...
Basically, once again, it's bad if it's bad, but not if it's not.
good grief

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 4:33:22 PM
#83
Ogurisama posted...
navi

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 4:32:13 PM
#82
Revelation34 posted...
Mine needs a guess.
that seems so vaguely familiar... something to do with mcdonalds. researching, I find a series of commercials from the 80s/90s that I saw as a kid. the character is known as "Mac Tonight"?

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TopicSpider-Man (2002) is better than most of the MCU films.
Sahuagin
07/14/21 4:54:19 AM
#41
parts of it are extremely good. I think the thing it's missing though, that a lot of comic book movies miss, is that it doesn't have enough Spider-Man. in fact you could almost say that Spider-Man as a character is not even in the movie, there's only Peter Parker.

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TopicI had a dream that had RPG battles in it... heh
Sahuagin
07/14/21 4:24:11 AM
#5
a-train had a pale yellow ui



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TopicDo you have anything that you tried the "premium" version of...
Sahuagin
07/14/21 4:10:55 AM
#14
fresh pineapple of the right ripeness is amazing. have never compared directly, but I'm pretty sure canned pineapple (including what you get on pizza) tastes almost nothing like it. (note though that I vastly prefer sweet to sour; some may prefer tangy pineapple more than the glorious sweetness that is perfectly fresh pineapple.)

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/14/21 2:47:40 AM
#119
adjl posted...
Simply entering would not inherently be wrong, but there aren't many possible non-nefarious reasons for him to enter, and entering for nefarious reasons is wrong (by simple virtue of being nefarious).
yes you're just saying it's wrong because it's wrong.

adjl posted...
Honestly, I don't see much by way of inherent moral wrong in either situation. Nudity is morally neutral and inflicts no inherent harm. The only harm or moral foul arises in how it is applied or treated, which is a set of conscious decisions from the people involved in the situation. In truth, desegregating facilities like these wouldn't be a problem at all.

In practice, the issue boils down to expectations: You don't expect a dong in the ladies' room, so when that happens, people feel uncomfortable. The thing is, you also don't expect a full-body tattoo of Spongebob. Somebody shows up in one of these spas with a full-body Spongebob tattoo, though, and you aren't going to get a public announcement about how her daughter was "scandalized" and angry protests over the "incident." Why the different standards? Why are penises so special and horrible and unexpected that seeing one warrants such a gross overreaction? Simply being unexpected doesn't explain that, especially where you're significantly more likely to see a trans woman at a spa than you are any countless number of other specific unusual aesthetic variations.
is "exposing oneself" immoral?

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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
Sahuagin
07/14/21 2:43:40 AM
#118
Metalsonic66 posted...
Dude tried SO HARD to do a "gotcha"
if you're talking about me, no that's not what I'm doing. I'm just exploring the ideas.

(actually part of the explanation is that I had a pretty f***ed up upbringing and have had to teach myself this kind of thing. but it's also just that I enjoy exploring ethical problems in general, particularly when I don't have a good understanding of them.)

Mead posted...
but did he MORALLY try???
thanks a lot

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TopicEmoji character guessing game part 2
Sahuagin
07/14/21 2:40:56 AM
#72
Ogurisama posted...
Nope, not MTG
the darkmoon cards are Hearthstone; "Sayge, Seer of Darkmoon" is the mage character darkmoon card

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TopicIn fictions and al' that or whatevers... what makes an animal "dire"
Sahuagin
07/13/21 4:08:49 AM
#3
dire wolf is a real (extinct) animal. reading, in D&D it sounds like it's meant to basically be that same animal. dire wolves are a bit bigger, and fair bit more massive than grey wolves.

I think generally, a "dire" will be somewhat, but not extremely, larger, tougher, and possibly smarter.

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TopicI just had an extremely radical notion
Sahuagin
07/13/21 3:49:12 AM
#10
DirtBasedSoap posted...
wrong
are you religious or something? 8)

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TopicI just had an extremely radical notion
Sahuagin
07/13/21 3:42:29 AM
#8
Mead posted...
What if things eventually end up being okay
they won't, ever, for anyone. things can be okay now, for a while, but only for a while.

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