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I figure Rocket or Yell or maybe Skull, since the others will like destroy the world/universe

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In which we all stan Tyrone Mings

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Oh for sure I'm not agreeing with ExTha who went way too far in his criticism, I'm just saying you can't only say Belgium lost to great teams like France/Italy given 2016 happened. The other two times Belgium did exactly what you said - lost to bigger countries with marginally better teams - but Wales can't be forgotten; it's what I'd call that generation's only total failure.

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RyoCaliente posted...

Right, France should lose their status as world champions, given they lost to Switzerland.

Not at all, but France's loss to a clearly inferior team was definitely laughable.

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Lol

Belgium still had Courtois, Alderweireld, Witsel, Carrasco, and most importantly Hazard, De Bruyne and Lukaku in the team against Wales

If we're comparing incarnations of Belgium, 2021 Belgium is less relevant to 2018 than 2016, given Hazard's decline and the aging defence. But all three teams are of the same generation.

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Well, I imagine is point is that while there's no shame in Belgium losing to France and Italy, and your point is a valid one for the most part, it falls down a little given the loss to Wales in 2016.

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Really have no time for this guy at all

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Belgium were the 2nd best team in 2018 and the sf with France was the true final

Did lose to Wales though which wasn't great

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Ahh yes, I ran a search to see if I was right and forgot to search for those emojis

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. Another dogwhistle for them to hide behind.

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Sheep007 posted...

Hope the young lads don't get any stick for missing

All three of them absolutely will get a barrage of racist death threats, and probably already have

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People who booed taking the knee secretly delighted that they've got three young black lads to blame for this

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paulg235 posted...

this shootout probably mentally ruined at least one of Sancho, Rashford and Saka for the rest of their international career.

I mean with the level of sports psychologists around the teams those guys play at I find that very unlikely

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I mean bringing on subs for pens isn't exactly unusual

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Saka taking that was a bizarre choice. Didn't trust Sancho either. Rashford's was the most bizarre...I've seen him take lots of penalties and never anything that idiotic

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Omg i can't watch saka like that
Devastating

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Fml

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Fucking jesus christ

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Alright well

They're the best team in the tournament and outplayed us for the majority of the game, and this could honestly go either way. Some incredible guts from the team and a great effort not just today but the entire campaign. We couldn't give any more. Southgate arrested the slide that led to the loss against Croatia and we just have to see how this goes.

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Subbed on a corner
Bad idea

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What the FUCK? Now THAT is a red

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That ball out wide then. How'd he have so much space so easily. Bizarre

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Alright then apparently Grealish is the lovechild of Maradona and Pele so let's do it

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Honestly there's times where Sterling is exceptional and times where he reminds me of Theo Walcott in all the worst ways

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Guys Saka is on the halfway line with defenders covering and it was a grab of the shirt, not exactly dangerous

Definite yellow, definitely not a red

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That was the most laughably obvious foul I've ever seen but no way is it a red

I hope that little spell we had after 80m can carry through into ET

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Get out moron
Jesus christ

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This is a little better

Subs and the little break have maybe helped

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Hardcore_Adult posted...

I have a feeling your lie detector would explode for some reason.

Shut up with this shit

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This is inevitable. Completely outclassed since about the 35m mark.

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To a back 4

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Saw it coming a mile away

Southgate needed to address this 10 minutes ago

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Henderson more likely yes.

Foden is injured.

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Reminds me eerily of the Croatia 2018 semifinal game so far. Early goal, well on top for the first 20, then control of the midfield gradually ceded to the point that the equaliser and winner were inevitable

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We're moving horizontally so quickly that their superior central midfield isn't such an issue. Getting it wide attacking with pace, aggression

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Fouling too much

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Ah!

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Alright let's get this over with

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Bbc showing a montage of the players' old PE teachers wishing them good luck and maybe it's because I'm on about 3 hours sleep but it has ruined me

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Alright. Back home in the uk in time for the final. I'm ready

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No, but Chelsea might be

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Awesome

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ME3 satisfies my bloodlust man. I want to unlock the Armax Arena and just beat the shit out of ppl

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For real, I know it's weird but Eurovision is a good barometer of when we became just a deeply unpopular country worldwide. Followed Bush into a toxic war and then just got shittier and shittier. We won Eurovision in 99(?). Since 2003, we've been humiliated there.

Also social media helped increase global awareness of colonialism and such so that doesn't help either. And Brexit. And our idiotic PM. Etc etc

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If - and that is a very big if - Kane scores two, he'd have won the golden boot at the Euros and the World Cup. As far as I can tell, only Gerd Muller has done that before.

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Oh right, fair enough

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Yeah I can see stuff like the Huge Materia quest being seriously stripped down. There's a lot in the final third of FF7 that isn't that great and can be streamlined or removed entirely.

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Idk, I think it's 100% fine to not want a team to win because of their fans. This is why Liverpool winning anything is offensive and should be prevented at pretty much any cost.

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ctesjbuvf posted...

Now Italy has still dived sure, but they haven't actually gotten anything from it this time.

Italy killed the last 15-20 minutes against Belgium by doing this btw. Felt like the ball was actually in play for about 5 minutes of that period.

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ExThaNemesis posted...

It's amazing that England have become the bad guy here when Italy are just generally an unlikable lot.

With England there's a general undercurrent of distaste due to the overstated "arrogance", the media, the fans, the government, etc, which I get, because we've sucked as a nation more or less since we invaded Iraq in 2003, ramping down even more in 2010, then even further in 2016. It's also partly why we've done badly at Eurovision for decades. (To be clear: there's a valid argument that due to colonialism we have basically always sucked, but I'm talking more about general perception, which definitely took a downturn when we followed Bush into Iraq; this is also when we stopped doing well in Eurovision for example.)

But people have been waiting for a footballing incident to justify that distaste in the context of this specific tournament, which is hard because it's a fairly likeable squad/manager playing at its level. It's the internet so "I just don't like them" isn't sufficient - you need a reason to latch onto. Previously it was the "easy" run to the final or being pseudo-hosts but they were more abstract than a "dive", which apparently renders any complaint against Italy totally invalid, even if they were to do the same thing as Sterling (or worse) 100 times and, in one stroke, has completely destroyed this reputation for "fair play" we apparently had (even though the Danish player mistimed his tackle).

Football fans are irrational and always have been, but on the internet people need concrete justifications for their dislike so they'll latch onto anything - leading to Sterling's would-be "dive" being blown massively out of proportion.

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I still want to finish but am unable to play currently. Next week probably.

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