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mooreandrew58 posted...

It was always to my understanding that iq wasnt how smart you are but rather how quickly you learn. I have above average but I wouldn't say im really smart. Just above average for where I live. When I took a iq test though it was literally being presented with new information given a little time to study it then immediately taking a test on it.

IQ tests specifically measure mathematic and linguistic reasoning abilities, including a timed element. They say little to nothing about any other facets of intelligence. The timed element is going to result in some generalizable conclusions about how quickly one can think in other regards, but that's about it.

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I'm guessing he meant "now-wife."

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TBH, given the chronic drought conditions, nobody in California should have a lawn anyway. Not a grass one, at least, and lower-water options don't need mowing.

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Reigning_King posted...

Contradictory =/= hypothetical [sic]

Come on dude.

In that context, it obviously does, but if it makes you feel any better, the central point of that comment remains completely intact if you substitute "contradicting themselves" for "hypocrisy."

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It's not really that interesting. It's just sampling bias and circular logic: You define "smartest" as "sharing the most opinions with me," which axiomatically means the "smartest" people you know will share the same opinions.

Spoilers: None of them are actually smart.

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... Does any online community of anonymous strangers "deserve" a picture of your son?

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Reigning_King posted...

Why do you keep bringing up things that never happened?

Reigning_King posted...

contradictory bulls*** like how they said masks weren't needed back when this started,

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

it might also do much more than that

Yeah, it might be as much as 4-5 days of malaise. Sure, more serious adverse effects exist, but they're incredibly rare and can be safely neglected due to how many orders of magnitude less dangerous than the disease itself they are.

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Reigning_King posted...

Literally doesn't matter either way.

Sure it does. One questions the CDC's scientific authority, which is central to their very existence. To challenge that is to suggest that they should never be listened to. The other questions a decision they made. Questioning that just means acknowledging that they're human and they may not have considered all aspects of that decision (in this case, the social ramifications of sharing the science). The two differ radically in the extent to which they seek to discredit the CDC.

Reigning_King posted...

Yes. Maybe you were lucky enough to not come across those types of idiots but they definitely existed.

I'm going to need to see several examples. I don't doubt that they exist (given that people exist that hold basically every viewpoint imaginable), but given your track record, I very much doubt that the ones you have seen actually hold the viewpoints you're ascribing to them. I consider it significantly more likely that you're seeing hypocrisy where there is none because you understand very little about any of this (see: accusing the CDC of hypocrisy for changing their position on masks as new evidence emerged to support wearing them).

Of course, I could be mistaken in that assumption, but getting me to believe in such a mistake is going to take some convincing. So hop to it.

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Reigning_King posted...

They are hypocrites for saying the CDC was in the wrong and companies should disregard the new mask rules,

Did anyone ever actually say "companies should not allow fully-vaccinated people to go without masks"? Or did they say "companies shouldn't give up on mask requirements entirely because a very small portion of the population is actually fully vaccinated and there's no shortage of unvaccinated assholes that will stop wearing them despite that being a really stupid idea"? Did anyone actually say "the science is wrong," or did they just say "it was wrong to announce this because it will be abused"?

Reigning_King posted...

because previously they pretended the CDC was infallible and Fauchi was some galaxy brain messiah and everyone should just do as they were told.

Did they actually? Or did they just trust that the science was valid because the data was available and could be verified as needed if they thought the CDC's conclusions were mistaken?

You seem to be thinking of this in terms of people's attitudes toward the CDC, not in terms of people's attitudes toward empirical reality (and, more specifically, the CDC's measurements thereof). That's dumb. Stop it.

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Reigning_King posted...

I literally said the opposite of that. Read adjl, read.

Reigning_King posted...

they're a bunch of hypocrites.

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WC3 Reforged was so bad it broke the original game. That had already prompted me to boycott Actiblizz even before this news broke, since if I can't trust them not to destroy a game I've owned for 15 years, I don't see much point in spending any more money on any further products they put out (not that I was exactly buying lots of their stuff in the first place, given that Diablo 3 Switch is the first one I've bought since SC2:WoL). This is just even more reason to avoid supporting them.

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Zareth posted...

Didn't that game come out like 4 years ago

It's being rereleased, presumably because being a WiiU eShop exclusive wasn't exactly conducive to turning a profit.

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Also yeah, saying "You were all hypocrites to be worried that the CDC's announcement would result in unvaccinated people giving up masks" and then admitting to giving up masks without being vaccinated pretty much revokes your right to call anyone hypocritical.

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Reigning_King posted...

You can claim that you felt/thought that way adjl and I can't prove you didn't but there were definitely hypocritical nimrods on that side of the issue and that's who I'm laughing at.

You're doing a whole lot more than laughing. You're using their (alleged, since where you don't exactly have the best track record for understanding this subject, I doubt there really is any) hypocrisy as a reason to ignore the CDC's recommendations as though that somehow discredits them. That's never a logical course of action.

Reigning_King posted...

Also that last part of your post doesn't mean much when that >2% isn't even really >2% and is much lower for most people as I pointed out.

adjl posted...

you will have characters die to those odds (0.045%, even less on the 2-RNG system used by some of the games)

For clarification, the 2-RNG system (used in every game from FE6 on) rolls two RN's for hit chance, then a hit is scored if their average is less than or equal to the displayed hit chance. This means that the chance of missing with 90 hit is actually 1.9% and the chance of hitting with 15 is 4.65%, for a total probability of 0.0027%. But you'll nevertheless eventually end up restarting a chapter because those odds were realized. Imagine if instead of restarting a chapter, you drowned in your own mucus while lying face down in a puddle of diarrhea with several tubes shoved down your throat in a desperate effort to save you while everyone you've ever cared about is forbidden from being anywhere close to you.

I dunno about you, but that sounds pretty unpleasant. I'm all for further reducing the odds of that happening by wearing a piece of cloth on my face and taking a sick day or two.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Just because they don't cause you problems doesn't mean they don't cause other people problems.

I've literally put one on during an asthma attack without issues, so...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

On the plus side, I don't have asthma, so I haven't really had any major problems breathing in them, though I do know some people who have. Regardless of how often adjl posts about how the oxygen level is the same and thus masks don't impair breathing in any way whatsoever.

I generally also say something like "the fact that the sense of having trouble breathing is completely psychosomatic doesn't make it any less legitimate, but it does mean that's something you can overcome because there's no actual physical problem there." I don't doubt that people feel like they have problems, nor do I think that shouldn't be sympathized with. I just also don't let them pretend it's not all in their head.

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Mead posted...

what would keep it dead though?

A hard cap of electricity consumption per person would go a long way. Obviously, that idea needs some nuance, but if you basically say "you get X kWh per employee/customer on site per day," mining ops that draw absurd amounts of power while having a tiny handful of employees and no customers would fall apart. That limit would probably have to be set high enough that individuals could get away with using their personal computer for mining whenever they weren't using it, and that would make cryptojacking a lot more appealing, but the death of larger-scale mining ops would put a pretty giant dent in the market.

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Blighboy posted...

https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/letter-ceo-bobby-kotick-all-employees

I like the legal disclaimer at the bottom that basically amounts to "we're not actually committing to anything here."

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Reigning_King posted...

I don't disagree with you there. I just think it's hilarious how the same people who were screaming stuff like "Trust the science!" and "The CDC knows more than you ever could, don't rely on your own feelings/thoughts/research and just do whatever they tell you to do!" followed along and hand waved contradictory bullshit like how they said masks weren't needed back when this started, as long as they were making people more frightened, but the second they say something optimistic and in the opposite direction suddenly they're a bunch of heartless idiots who can't be trusted. If they do fully flip flop on this I expect their fanatics turned detractors to flip flop accordingly.

Oh, I've always trusted the science. There were questions at one point about whether or not vaccines would prevent people from transmitting the disease without being (noticeably) infected, but the CDC's announcement indicated that that was no longer a concern. That was great news, and I fully trust that that announcement was made based on sound scientific evidence.

What I don't trust is people. The CDC was correct to arrive at that conclusion, but because people are stupid, announcing it was a terrible idea. On the day they made that announcement (May 13), approximately 30% of the country was fully vaccinated. Within two weeks, substantially more than 30% of people were going without masks. Even now, less than half the country can claim to have had both shots more than two weeks ago, yet mask requirements have been dropped pretty much country-wide.

By and large, the people eschewing masks aren't "trusting" the CDC as a scientific authority. They're treating the CDC's authority as something they can exploit now that it has said something they kind of almost agree with. The people saying the CDC should be trusted now that they're suggesting re-implementing masks didn't distrust them when they said vaccinated people don't need masks, they just recognized that such an announcement was never going to end well because people are idiots.

Reigning_King posted...

Sub 2%

I think you need to play more Fire Emblem games if you think a 1-2% chance of death isn't a problem. It's fairly unlikely, sure, and reasonable risk analysis dictates that it's fine to attack a guy that you have a 90% chance to one-shot and who only has a 15% chance to hit and 3% chance to crit you, but you will have characters die to those odds (0.045%, even less on the 2-RNG system used by some of the games) far more often than common sense would seem to dictate. And that's just a video game. When the consequence is literally dying alone and in excruciating agony, those odds are bloody awful.

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Reigning_King posted...

No.

Then what point was that comparison supposed to communicate?

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Only a truly brilliant and somewhat sexy stud of a man could have predicted that a poorly-worded statement issued by people who seem to lack anything resembling a grasp of sociology was going to backfire spectacularly. If only such a glorious specimen of manhood had said something at the time (and not been ignored).

I tried, but alas, people were too intimidated by my unfathomable genius and sexual magnetism.

teddy241 posted...

now im going to embrace not suffocating my lungs and heart while i workout at the gym.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201105112934.htm

Masks do nothing to limit oxygen intake. You can work out just fine with one on. Any sense that you can't is all in your head.

Reigning_King posted...

And suddenly all of the people who threw them under the bus will be back to demanding everyone follow them without question.

Why do you think this is a matter of politics and not empirical reality?

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Though I'm not ruling out that the government will start to tattoo people to identify them.

Oh good Lord.

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Reigning_King posted...

the rest have decide to "take their chances" (the same way someone "takes their chances" of getting struck by lightning when they go outside on a cloudy day).

Did you really just suggest that the chance of dying of Covid is comparable to the chance of being struck by lightning outside of a thunderstorm?

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Reigning_King posted...

Literally not even how it works btw.

Let me guess, "viruses tend to mutate to be less lethal"? That seems to have been a favourite phrase over the past year among people that are trying to pretend they understand immunology and evolution.

RoboXgp89 posted...

I have no desire to get vaccinated even if it kills me and my loved ones, it's better for the species if weak genetics don't continue.

Why do you believe that susceptibility to Covid infections has a genetic basis? For that matter, even if it is, those genes do not confer a selective advantage or disadvantage in a world where vaccines exist, so trying to describe them as "strong" or "weak" is just a fundamental misunderstanding of how evolution works.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

I'd assume people would be sensible without legal enforcement. Mask requirement dropped in the UK but half of people are still masked.

Yeah, that assumption doesn't really work in the US. The CDC announced that masks weren't required for fully-vaccinated people (and only fully-vaccinated people) at a point when that described ~30% of the country, and within less than a month pretty much everyone had given up on masks. Now, cases are surging again (they're still only just barely flirting with 50% full vaccination) and it's a major uphill battle to try to get people to listen to restrictions again now that they need to be re-implemented.

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Full Throttle posted...

The dealership has since said that employee was FIRED and executives have called her to personally apologize but thousands claim the apology doesn't go far enough and now many 1 star ratings were added on the dealership page as Trinity is now considering LEGAL action

I feel like firing the employee is all the dealership can really be expected to do, aside from taking the car back and giving her a refund if she wants to go that route.

helIy posted...

yeah it's pretty racist.

that's like if i saw an Asian person and called him ching chong.

Pretty much. There are worse racist things one can say, but it's very clearly a matter of "I'm just going to call you a vaguely black-sounding name because you're all the same to me."

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faramir77 posted...

Conservative propaganda has done it's damage. The antivax narrative spun by Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity will stick. They can go on their shows and backpedal, but their moronic audience will just accuse them of selling out to liberals. Nothing will turn this around in places like this except mass COVID deaths. And that's pretty sad.

Yep. At this point, the only reason anyone's changing their mind and getting vaccinated is because they personally experience a Covid-related loss. The remaining hold-outs are just too invested in the belief that the personal risk from Covid is lower than that of the vaccine, and that won't change until that risk is personally realized.

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In a sense, I guess you could say that a business is like a communist micro-society, though the owner doesn't distribute resources to those within it evenly (which also doesn't happen in actual communist states, but that's a corruption of the model, rather than anything inherent in it). There's a non-trivial amount of mental gymnastics involved in getting to that way of looking at things, though, and it's ultimately not particularly meaningful.

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DrPrimemaster posted...

Good point, she'll say no and I wasn't planning on bringing this up.

If she'll say no, I'd advise against trying it. I'm far from an expert on the subject (both in general and as pertains to the details of your personal situation), but I would say that if your ED therapist tells you you shouldn't try a given dietary change, you shouldn't try it.

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Zeus posted...

And anything over 3 years is a pretty huge red flag.

Eh, that's pretty variable. Sometimes it indicates a reluctance to commit (which is indeed a red flag), other times it's just a matter of treating marriage as a formality or wanting to wait until one's life is a little more stable to make such a commitment (which is pretty reasonable). In a world where it's socially acceptable to cohabit and even have kids before getting married, there's really not much reason to push to get married as soon as possible, since it doesn't (for lack of a better term) "unlock any new features."

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PK_Spam posted...

There are lots of red flags you can look for in relationships to tell if theyre gonna be bad news down the line, and getting engaged early is only one of them.

Eh, that's pretty variable. For younger couples, I'd agree, but people being younger when they make major relationship changes is generally a bad sign regardless of what those changes are (cohabitation, marriage, kids). For people that are older and do have more experience with relationships, it's not that unfathomable to think that they'd be able to figure out pretty quickly whether or not they're in the right relationship.

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Yeah, recovering from an eating disorder and trying out new diets can get a little questionable. People with a history of ED are prone to taking any nutritional choices to extremes, sometimes to such an unhealthy extent that they relapse into disordered eating. That's not to say you can't try it, but you should consult your therapist first to figure out a way to try it healthily (like eating a lot more than 1000 calories a day) and/or whether or not it's a good fit for your personal ED history.

DrPrimemaster posted...

What makes IF better than something like that? Or are they the same?

They both regiment your eating patterns, which helps to cut down on things like impulsive snacking and forgetting meals that can mess with your weight and overall health, but with PPRE, that scheduling is the entire point, whereas IF is meant to induce certain metabolic effects, and the benefits of thinking about and scheduling meals just end up being added bonuses.

(Side note: Totally parsed that as "erectile dysfunction" on the first pass >.>)

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Reigning_King posted...

If I'm clueless about something, which I am on many things, I simply won't discuss it.

I have considerable reason to believe that's not true.

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supergamer19 posted...

It kind of is, since that combo with Gengar is so busted, but you and Trodi make good points. I came across as douchey with my comment. Sorry TC.

Nah, didn't seem douchey, at least no more so than me taking both quotes out of context to make the same point. I'm mostly just walking it back because there isn't actually enough information there to support the conclusion that the game is P2W. Just that his experience hasn't left him in a good place to conclude one way or the other.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

oh no, how will I ever finish my sylvanas fanfic now

With one hand, presumably.

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kangolcone posted...

As you put it, lives are on the line (you missed a comma here) you know (and a question mark here)

That doesn't need a question mark, actually. Depending on how it's being said, one might be appropriate, but given the phrasing here, it's not so much a matter of asking if I know as it is telling me that I should be considering something I already know.

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Reigning_King posted...

Also I'll call you out on your "w-w-well if you round up a percent..." bs because that isn't true either.

Being vaccinated reduces the risk of death by somewhere in the range of 99.5-99.7%. That rounds up to 100, even without considering that breakthrough deaths have been pretty much entirely restricted to people much older than 47 and that the risk reduction is even higher for her demographic.

Reigning_King posted...

I shouldn't have to mentally cover over your misinformation, you shouldn't have posted it in the first place. Other people skimming the topic might have been tricked by it if I hadn't called you out.

How's this, then: I would stake my own life on the belief that, had she been vaccinated, she would still be alive. In fact, I literally have, given that I'm relying on that same vaccine to protect me from such a fate. The odds of a fully vaccinated 47-year-old dying of Covid are so infinitesimally remote that I am as comfortable ignoring that possibility as I am ignoring the possibility that a meteor crashes into my house.

If you genuinely believe that my statement was misleading in any meaningful capacity, I invite you to provide evidence of the practical impact it might have had if not for your intervention. If not, you should really stop clinging so desperately to this apparent opportunity to pretend you're smarter than me. You're not fooling anyone, so it's really just embarrassing to watch. While you're at it, I advise that you stop trying to look for such opportunities. You simply don't know enough about the subject to ever find a real one.

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teddy241 posted...

That's the key right there. Having a kid within a certain amount of years of getting married. We got married and didnt have any kids for 5 years and it just seemed like a glorified boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with each of us getting tired of the other so we ended in divorce. Pretty sure had we started a family we would've road it out.

If you'd had kids, you might have stuck with it for their sake, but you still would have lost interest in each other (and, in fact, trying to ride it out for the kids' sake may have resulted in that apathy growing into antipathy). Ultimately, you can't expect relationships to be a steady stream of new and exciting experiences with a clear sense of progress. No matter what you do, eventually, you'll hit a point where you're just living your lives together and there are no more big milestones to look forward to. If simply being together doesn't make you happy, it's not a relationship you should be trying to make work long-term.

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Reigning_King posted...

When peak cases were 3x higher than what we have now and a good percentage of the population is either vaccinated or has already been infected calling to this a comeback is objectively overstating things no matter how you look at it.

"Comeback" doesn't mean "it's going to be just as big as it was at its biggest." It just means "it was gone and now it's coming back." Regardless of how large of a surge it ends up being, it is objectively true that cases are surging compare to where they were a month ago. That surge is probably not going to be as bad as it was in December/January, no, but it's very much on track to end up with a higher 7-day average than was seen at the peaks of the waves in July 2020 and April 2021, and those were periods that averaged 1000 and 700 deaths a day, respectively. That's not a small deal.

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Reigning_King posted...

So they aren't 100% effectively and don't guarantee someone won't contract or die from covid, got it.

adjl posted...

If that bothers you, you can mentally prepend the word "almost" to "completely" and improve the precision.

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Reigning_King posted...

Oh, so now the vaccines are 100% effective?

If you round to the nearest whole percentage point, which is a pretty reasonable thing to do to save precious syllables in lazy colloquial speech. If that bothers you, you can mentally prepend the word "almost" to "completely" and improve the precision.

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LeetCheet posted...

If the media didn't report anything then most people wouldn't even give a f***.
They would just move on with their lives as usual.

That wouldn't change the answer to "is Covid making a comeback?", though. It'd just change whether or not people realized that it was. Covid making a comeback is objectively true.

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Reigning_King posted...

inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

Gloat? No. That would be stupid and pointless. Be glad that her family has taken something positive from this tragedy by learning from her mistake? Yes. This was completely preventable, and while it would be better if it had been prevented, the next-best outcome is for everyone involved to learn from it and prevent it from happening again.

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My parents got engaged after six months, and they were married for over 28 years until a fatal stroke threw a very unfortunate wrench into their relationship. There's really no magic number, especially where engagements usually last for a year or two before the actual wedding anyway and can be called off at any time if the participants change their minds. Generally speaking, you can figure out pretty quickly whether or not a given relationship is one you'd like to commit yourself to forever. The only thing that takes time is getting to a point in your own life where you're comfortable with the idea of getting married.

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Mead posted...

Im legit conflicted

I love that game so much but I dont want to support this company

Really, you've got three options:

1. Just don't buy it. Accept that there are plenty of other fantastic games out there (even games in the same vein as D2), so you don't need that particular game in order to have fun. You can entertain yourself by supporting better companies instead.
2. Buy a used copy (difficult on PC, unfortunately) or keep playing the original instead of buying the remake
3. Dance to a catchy song like this one to help you feel better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMJpHihykI

At the end of the day, there's no need to support companies you disapprove of, which in turn means there's no reason to do so. So just don't. If they want your money, they can earn it.

Zareth posted...

Yeah I think a lot of the "I'm not gonna support this company that treats it's employees like s***" mindset fails to realize that if the company does poorly, its the employees who are going to suffer the losses, not the people treating them like s***. Capitalism.

Realistically, the employees being mistreated at these companies are the ones that will be laid off en masse the next time Kotick wants to pump his numbers to show off to shareholders, regardless of how well the company is doing. They will never have any kind of job security and will never be paid a decent wage, so you're not jeopardizing that by hurting the corporation's revenue.

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CoorsLight posted...

Probably that you grew up in a loving family or something so you aren't a miserable ball of hate

I mean, that's not wrong, but I don't think my mother's medical specialization really indicates that particularly reliably.

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DDirtyDastard posted...

That explains a lot.

Like what?

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supergamer19 posted...

Lol I was thinking of pointing out the same thing. Posting a pic of his kills and everything loooooool

I mean, that's not to say that spending $10 is the only reason he's winning. Just that paying, then winning, then saying "I don't see how this is pay to win" isn't exactly the most reliable assessment of the free player experience, especially after so little time spent with the game.

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DDirtyDastard posted...

Ask your mom.

She specializes in obstetrics and family medicine, not infectious diseases.

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DDirtyDastard posted...

Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine (prepares for suspension)

What do malaria and intestinal parasites have to do with Covid?

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DDirtyDastard posted...

Fix'd.

What does the media have to do with the fact that case numbers are increasing?

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