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Okay, so...I gather that you at least seem to think of Bat as town.
That explains some things possibly. But an instinct/fishing vote is still not gonna do much now

This may be my lack of imagination, but I dont see what Mike could reveal without compromising himself even a little.

I wish he hadn't hinted at it to begin with, since he doesn't seem to be sure it clashes with BG

Okay Isquen, we are still trying to be nice
But the time for fishing is not the last hour of the day... thats some helpful advice.
Whats your (remaining) opinion on the current situation?

I concur I need a bigger thesaurus too.

Okay I may have undersold his behavior with that word, but it was me referencing how he apparently is roleplaying his character?
Not an excuse by any stretch of the imagination. And yes he has been useless I concur.

(Also Mzero can respect that vote? The hell?)

I concur that Isquens gimmick has finally gotten to the point where it should stop.

MZero posted...

How many times are we gonna have the time zone discussion this game

Better to air my thoughts and be corrected then to forever think something wrongly.

But thats work!

Well okay because you asked me to..

Bat claimed BG. Red and me try to get him to explain himself further about his maybeslip, but he didnt really explain it to my satisfaction until now.
Ulti claims his role is something that could benefit from that and tells everyone to get off him.
Plum voted Bat as well because he thinks Bat rolled over.
Chris voted Plum because he voted a claimed protection role.(admittedly I forgot this happened)
Mike then revealed his role might sorta not exist alongside Bats (but he cannot be certain) but he still votes him.
Red asked Mike for more elaboration (while also saying he doesnt have to answer if he thinks he shouldnt). But Ulti voted Red because townred wouldnt rolefish at all.

Thats the major things I think

Okay. Interesting vote. Anything you want to let us know about it?

Just gonna say what I am thinking
Sure is convenient for Mzero to show up once Red is discussed again

Okay I do think its odd that Red would ask a question that probably shouldn't get answered.
Not enough for me to jump ship or anything tho

Also maybe people arent as aware of the deadline as they should be

Ulti at least called us dumb and tried to leverage his status.
I wish I could believe him
But even if I do, it might connect with your role instead...
I do agree that you shouldn't elaborate on that.

I did mention Banananor yes, and Red sorta agreed with me

I checked to make sure and saw that Chris also mentioned Banananor but in a positive light for how he voted Bat.

That brings to mind.
Now I dont know about anyone else, but I am kinda concerned that Chris seems to already be accepting Bats lynch even though he was against it (I am pretty sure he was)

Oh okay that makes more sense to say
While that is a pattern I didn't notice, I dont think its that suspicious considering Banananor's output.
I wouldnt call it moving the topic to him though. Moreso moving Banananor to the topics at hand.

And a hidden/double meaning isn't what I'd call a potential slip like that. But thats besides the point.

This is difficult since knowing you only played 2 games does make me less cold about your initial reaction. But now there's the fact that Mike brought in.

Let me get more of a feel of you.
What else are you thinking about players right now?

Uh.. my attention was on you because of you know what. I assume you are referring to yourself with that first sentence there.

And yeah that kind of answer that would have been better. And it may be too late now to ask this (and probably annoying too), but can you say why you specifically used the sentence about 'the actual scum'?

Okay I find it kinda charming that Tidus has this kind of curiosity

I confess I also worry about myself as town, when I know I shouldn't.
(That and that sometimes I just dont wanna come across as a dick.)

Still...really the vote itself says enough, you dont need to add the posterity-bit.

MikeTavish posted...

Don't want to go into it yet, but I don't know if my role and bodyguard would exist together. It's not impossible, but yeah, it's enough for me to edge more on the "this guy is scum" train.

If that's true. Then
A. I wish you hadnt said that. But I had to ask.
B. In a small game like this I dont think we would have 2 similar roles and I trust you more than Bat
C. Wonder what Ulti thinks

Also not sure I like the sound of Uriangers role being obvious to you.
Dont try to explain it either, we shouldnt need to know.

Why 'especially' after the claim?

But then again I am not sure what rules are in effect here besides the usual ones

We usually start votes with ##Vote: Blue and not ##Vote Blue

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I mean basically if he is scum you can eliminate me/red/scare/you/plum/ulti and maybe others from the list immediately. His scum profile only works with a few specific team members who wouldn't try to help.

To be fair thats not impossible with how inactive some players are

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why wouldn't he address it as scum? When you likely have people trying to help you to boot. Smells of town shrug emoji to me

Well it all happened suddenly. Though looking back he did take some time to answer at all

Btw sidenote, Isquens vote shouldnt count right?

Can we get a votal update just to be sure?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Is bat an experienced mafia player? I don't really know his profile but how is 'I don't have to tell you anything' a scum reaction. A bit on the nose

He does say he's played mafia before in the signup topic.

I will admit, its not really a smart reaction from scum either. But I dont know why he wouldn't address the 'slip' as well. I do agree that the slip in itself is not terrible. I know I've done it as town too. But I would just laugh it off and explain myself.

Oh and I am pretty sure I've said that for you to stop thinking that highly of me (even if I do enjoy it!) in almost every late game. So I was probably town and scum when I said it.

No what you are saying makes sense, Chris.
But why didn't Bat himself say it?

I know that you're fishing ultra hard by voting for me, you did it with plum too. I don't have to tell you anything :p

I just dont understand his initial reaction as a town one, even looking back at it.

Ulti you realize if he is noobscum, he has people to coach him.

The biggest thing giving me thoughts about reconsidering is that I literally cannot see Ulti and Bat being scum at the same time.

Thats because you answered my question well, thus fixing my confusion.
And your answer aligns with how I wanted Bat to be handled as well..

Maybe confused was too strong a word anyway. But I couldnt be sure as to why you despised Reds post beyond a guess and your later sentence was difficult to parse (for me) until you elaborated.

Well yeah I didnt want to feed Bat any lines either. A townbat could have easily explained that away.
Directly I mean. Instead of beating around the bush as he has done now..

Also I am pretty sure the line 'BGs resolve themselves' has been outdated years ago, Ulti

Okay I am confused as to why do you despise Reds post?

And yes I agree that getting scum too do something else besides roll over would be better, but you expect townbat to to panic or scumbat to panic? The sentence structure throws me for a loop.

So did you think he was town?

Oh Bat ninja'd me

Bat, I/we just want to hear why you wrote down the 'actual scum' line.

Of course me asking this is kinda pointless since I already said what I expected you to say...
That and other human error circumstances.

Well okay then..

But if he is gone now, I guess we need another topic for the time being.
Like Plum
I can say one thing about him
For someone who says he loves discussion he didnt join it much once he did his Ulti thing.
I hate that he gave his nihilism excuse though because that makes it hard to read him.

I admit that that's the downside of doing what I tried to do.
But if I said it out loud, it might have given you a clue as how to respond to satisfy me..

Bodyguard also feels like a safe claim to make, especially in a game this small.
Though my gut reaction is telling me to unvote.

First
Can anyone tell me if the flavor at least checks out?

Honestly I think Banananor is the player most coasting right now. Regardless of how Banananor usually is.

Crescent-Moon posted...

You were the second person to comment on him, and he had just the one vote at the time. The deluge came shortly after.

Regardless, I think I actually like your reluctance to vote when it would've been really easy to do it.

I contrast this to Death's reaction, which is simultaneous in time with yours, where it seems like he's trying to find a reason outside of said "slip" to vote for him that I don't really think is there.

He also commented on Plum's lack of voting Bat... When Plum quoted that same post of yours that I quoted, but he never commented on you not doing it.

First off, I find it funny that you like his reluctance to vote but not mine
Because thats what I was doing, waiting to see what Bat himself would say about the whole matter
And Bat responded in a way that I didnt expect and also didnt think was town.
The slip alone didnt feel like enough reason to vote a man, but I didnt say anything because I wanted Bats response to be 'unguided' if that makes sense.
And my vote was definitely not at the same time as Scare's.
So dont give me that 'I needed another excuse to vote him' nonsense (especially when I said the same thing about Tidus). I just needed more.

I will grant you that Bats latest post is more in line with what I wanted. But he would have looked better if he reacted like that from the start.

As for Mike and Plum. They are not the same.
Mike questioned everything but it seemed clear to me that he was not fully convinced of anything (he even had a question mark in his original comment)

Plum on the other hand felt convinced enough to unvote Ulti. So I was wondering why not just vote Bat at the same time?

That was me quoting Bat btw

Ulti making people want to vote him off more

I could see someone saying that Ulti's actions speak differently from his words. But it doesnt really matter.

Huh, I didnt notice Bat making that assumption.. because it didnt strike out as much as the 'actual scum' comment.

My first reaction here is that this is just 'a reason for the sake of having a unique reason to vote'.

I can accept that reasoning..
Even if Bat may not feel like discussion

Feel like a vote on Bat would follow that remark

HbtheBattle did....
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I am confused now

Crescent replaces in?
Woo!

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Well we can always just ask @TidusOfTheX why he voted Bat

So you are calling Bat scum, and everyone who voted him potentially scum as well?

Dont ignore me Ulti. What changed for you about Bat?

You could do a little more than that