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Johnbobb posted...

So far the bow feels like the worst weapon by far

pretty much yeah

Outlier Rankings:

Karo: 9
Red: 9
Inviso: 8
Evillord: 5
Johnbobb: 1
Ermine: 0

Ermine somehow manages to start out at zero, becoming the lowest outlier for probably the first time in his life.

Will this hold up? Time will only tell.

40. Despicable Me 3

Karo: 31
Red: 31
Inviso: 32
Evillord: 35
Johnbobb: 39
Ermine: 40

Total: 208

Karo: After being fired from being a secret agent for arbitrary reasons, Gru finds out he has a long lost twin brother living in the fictional country of Freedonia, where the people are a sort of a gypsy-mediterranean kind of culture whose portrayal is honestly pretty racist. I guess I shouldnt really be surprised, given the thinly veiled insensitivity present throughout the franchise in the form of the pseudo-foreign Minions.
Gru's brother is named Dru, because someone thought it would be cute for the siblings to have similar sounding names. But, our protagonists full name is Felonious Gru, as in Gru is his last name. So now we literally have a character named Dru Gru. Good job, guys.
Anyway this brother is an aspiring yet incompetent villain who wants Gru's help in being bad, and Gru spends most of the movie with this idiot acting like a severely balding manchild and generally just ignoring the family he apparently loved so much in the other movies.
So the girls' antics are cute. The Minions' antics are annoying. There's a silly over the top antagonist. Havent we done this all before?
I don't care about Gru's love life, I don't care about his weird relatives, I cane about his relationship with the wonderful little girls that melted his cold heart and set him on the path to become a less-than-despicable person. Y'know, the thing that made the first film a joy to watch and set it firmly in stone as the best movie Illumination ever made. Really, if there ever was a movie that didn't need spinoffs it was Despicable Me. So you can be absolutely sure we are going to get fucking five of them. Thanks, Hollywood.

Red: Do you want lots of Gru, Gru 2, and minions? No? Well too bad because now you are getting two movies in one as we're out of ideas of what to do with the minions and they are relegated entirely to a side story from the main plot. A main plot which I will note leaves this franchise nowhere except having Gru with an out of nowhere sibling and everything else as completely status quo where you assumed the second movie left everything. For a franchise with a lot of wiggle room for world creativity this is a sequel that really feels creatively bankrupt.

Inviso: This is not the first movie on this list (nor do I think it will be the last), where I dont think its a good movie, but by virtue of it being SLIGHTLY interesting, and at least able to maintain its pacing throughout the runtime, I have to rank it perhaps overly high. Its still not great though. I dont want to make a direct connection to Ice Age 3, because Im writing this write-up after watching Ice Age 3, whereas I did THAT write-up prior to watching Despicable Me 3, but its very similar in its story structure. The plot very much feels in the vein of we have all these characters, and therefore we need to give them each individual storylines for no reason.

Grus plot is kind of flat and cookie cutter, namely randomly getting a twin brother (which seriously hearkens back to the trilogy rules elucidated in Scream 3), who helps him steal a diamond in an unknowing effort to get Grus job back. See, Gru and wife Lucy get fired for failing to capture a supervillain (even though they do prevent his diamond heist from succeeding in the first place). Note, said character who fires them does not exist in the rest of the film, and feels completely pointless as an addition.

Lucy, meanwhile, has hamfisted efforts to be a good mom to the girls, culminating in her rescuing them from the supervillain of the movie. Grus twin brother is weirdly a loser, despite having every reason to be successful outside of the supervillain business. And then the minions decide to abandon Gru and spend the movie regretting that decision before swooping in at the last minute. Oh, and the girls have a subplot about finding a real unicorn, and two scenes of Margot inadvertently getting engaged to a random kid, which plays more into Lucys plot than anything else.

Its all kind of dumb, but this movie is carried on its back by the charisma of Trey Parker as a goofy-ass supervillain. Hes certainly more memorable than the villains of the first movie, by virtue of being a child star who lost his fame when he went through puberty, and wants revenge on Hollywood for canceling him. As such, his entire set of mannerisms is that of a guy whos stuck in the 80s, and its wonderful. Every scene with him emulating Michael Jackson, or trying to relive his glory years, is a joy to watch, and makes up for how scattershot the rest of the film is by comparison.

Evillord: This is just a collection of hyperactive moments designed to appeal to really little kids strung together with a paper-thin plot, so it's hard to watch from a grown-up perspective. Trey Parker probably had fun playing a supervillain out to destroy Hollywood, but I had to cope with the movie by closing my eyes during his scenes and pretending I was watching South Park.

Johnbobb: I don't think any series has gone as steadily and significantly downhill as Despicable Me. The first was good! And then with every sequel and spinoff, they drop all the stuff that worked about the previous films and double down on the worst aspects. This isn't cute, it isn't funny; it's just a mind-numbing waste of time.

Ermine: Fuck this movie.

Somehow the Minions were less awful in their own movie than this one here.

I don't want to write any more, it already wasted an hour and a half of my time. It sucks.

Snake5555555555 posted...

Wow I COMPLETELY forgot about this, damn.

Tag

I pinged you in discord about it recently and you didn't reply so I thought that it meant you wernt able to participate :(

In this third incarnation of the series, our six brave souls watched through 40 high profile and/or influential animated films which was heavily focused on the last four years largely cause that's how long it has been since the last one. :p

Your rankers:

PrinceKaro
Inviso
Johnbobb
Ermine (Zigzagoon)
Evillordexdeath
red13n

The Films:

Fritz the Cat (1972)
Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001)
The Polar Express (2004)
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (2009)
The Illusionist (2010)
It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012)
Boy and the World (2013)
Anomalisa (2015)
The Peanuts Movie (2015)
My Life as a Zucchini (2016)
The Red Turtle (2016)
Despicable Me 3 (2017)
Ferdinand (2017)
Loving Vincent (2017)
The Grinch (2018)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation (2018)
Incredibles 2 (2018)
Isle of Dogs (2018)
Ralph Breaks the Internet (2018)
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
Abominable (2019)
A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon (2019)
Frozen II (2019)
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (2019)
I Lost My Body (2019)
Klaus (2019)
Missing Link (2019)
Spies in Disguise (2019)
The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (2019)
The Secret Life of Pets 2 (2019)
Toy Story 4 (2019)
Croods: A New Age (2020)
Onward (2020)
Over The Moon (2020)
Soul (2020)
Trolls World Tour (2020)
Wolfwalkers (2020)
Luca (2021)
Raya and the Last Dragon (2021)
The Mitchells vs The Machines (2021)

The total scores of the movies:

34
45
46
46
52
57
72
74
86
88
98
102
110
112
113
119
120
125
127
131
131
134
141
142
143
146
153
154
154
155
155
156
160
160
167
171
173
179
181
208

That's a pretty hefty last place score guys, any ideas on what it could be? :3

First ranking should come later this afternoon!

I mean they are pretty good for Illumination movies but they will always be a second rate studio

Bruno
Mirabel

Evillordexdeath posted...

Finally finished up my list and sent it via email, let me know if you got it and everything is in order.

Yes, I got it :)

Kang
Rat

Rivet
Mirabel

Yelena
Sylvie

cool, cool.

For those who are curious we are looking at 6-7 expected participants.

you can just get the free claymore from dragonspine that works fine

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1481040738620264448?s=21

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@Sheep007
@Evillordexdeath

Like to remind you all that it only three days to deadline and ping a few people that I have not received lists from yet to see if they still mean to participate.

Shark
Rat

Yes

Peace
Kang

I just looked it up and holy shit these writers should not be allowed to write tv shows anymore

evolution was not kind to so many of these

Rivet
Agatha
Ji-yeong
Mirabel

less than a week to go!

Yelena
-
Sylvie
Bruno

Banjo & Kazooie

Aerith

Kate
King
Herlock
Rat

Banjo & Kazooie

Aerith

Yes they definitely made the right decision not to dub it

up

Luca
Peace
Mobius
Giulia

Banjo & Kazooie

Aerith

Raka_Putra posted...

My friend had a pretty interesting theory about Maribel's power:
She doesn't have one now because she'll be the one to inherit Abuela Alma's 'power' as the guardian of the candle.

Yeah I though this was pretty obvious.

Mirabel and Abuela both have no apparent powers, both are the only ones who can 'command' the house, both are the only ones who know something is wrong before the powers start fading.

The reason Mirabel's ceremony fails is because she already has a gift - the gift of the candlebearer.

-
Ji-yeong
Mirabel
Han

Pyra

Chiaki

Banjo & Kazooie

Aerith

Rivet
Raven
Agatha
Zenkichi

Banjo & Kazooie

Aerith

there should be an option lower than 1 becasue 1 is too generous for this shit

Silvie
Bruno
Raya

Banjo & Kazooie

Raka_Putra posted...

https://www.billboard.com/music/awards/2022-oscars-shortlist-original-songs-full-list-1235013525/

The only song to be shortlisted for the Oscars is Dos Oruguitas.

yeah that sounds about right from the dipshits running the oscars

Hu
Raya

I loved it. Loved the character of Mirabel. Loved how they depicted familial conflict while still preserving the warmth these people feel for each other.
I also liked the music, despite not being as enamored of Lin-Manuel Miranda's compositions as many people. It is a worthy addition to the disney canon.

PerfectChaosZ posted...

I can't believe she didn't go on a huge journey. I kept waiting on her to go on an epic quest to find the source.

The movie isn't about the source of the Madrigal magic, it is about Mirabel and the relationship she has with her family.
I am just so so sick of the 'arbitrary journey' subplot that gets shoehorned into like 80% of modern animated movies, I am glad they resisted the urge here.

bump

Banjo & Kazooie