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Love that fight. I watched it in the 2011 version that you are seeing yesterday in anticipation for your write up... but I'm actually a bit disappointed.

The actual fight choreography is just as good as I remember from the 1999 version, and obviously it's animated much better, but the fight didn't feel like it means quite as much... especially giving the badge back. Along with Gon stealing it to begin with, Gon giving it back is one of the defining moments of the series for me that I always think of when I think about HxH, but... he just kinda gave it back with no emphasis in this version. Maybe that works in it's own lowkey way... but it's not how I remember it!

This is the fight from the 1999 anime. It's interesting to see how different choices are made both in character design and in how the scene is presented by the characters. Unfortunately, I can only find a decent quality version that goes up to giving the badge back... I don't know where I can find the second half of the fight.



Also, probably TMI, I was a teenager when I watched this and had a huge crush on Machi, the girl that fixes Hisoka's arms. She seems a lot different in this version - her body type seems thinner and her hair was more purple compared to pinkish. 1999 Machi was very similar to Sheena Fujibayashi from Tales of Symphonia who i also had a big crush on and came out at the same time I watched this...but that resemblance seems gone in this version.
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i love the 99 but how many seasons does a show really need?
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So have proportionally bigger DMV's/more offices? That's not a reason. Is the line at Starbucks just as long because there's so many more people trying to get coffee?

The stereotype is apparently true all over though, not just California.
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it's always a big joke in media that the DMV takes forever, but I've never had a bad experience with our equivalent in Canada

What are you guys doing so wrong?
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I thought this trailer looked really weak.
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man that's the end of the second best part of the series
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SeabassDebeste posted...

I really enjoyed the movie and the ending, but the only thing that surprised me about it was that it ended there instead of with a reversal. It was actually a big disappointment to me since I know that there are going to be more Black Panther and Spider-Man movies, and it kinda reminds me why I don't normally pay to see this movies - because they're all designed to feed sequels.

I don't get why people think this way.

Like yeah they are planning future movies, but the MCU puts a lot of effort into making each individual entry worth something.

Like they are designed to feed sequels in the same way that an episode of a TV show is designed to feed into the rest of the season. Does that make TV shows all worth less somehow? Does that make each individual episode no longer have value?
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that was actually super cool
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the thing about no fun is that he takes the position of these "these movies are not intelligent and follow very predictable patterns that I can easily see coming because I'm so much smarter than the movie" but the things he actually says about the movie don't really make any sense. Like he actually can't understand that these are characters within the movie with limited perspective, and seems really perplexed when they don't do exactly what he thinks the right move is. They make decisions that aren't perfectly efficient and think that's somehow a detriment to the film. It's like he doesn't know he's watching a movie.

so that's pretty neat
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watchthrough topic with your thoughts on each movie plz
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GTM posted...

I dont think Erika was as good strategically as you say she was, but she was very rootable and I wanted her to go far

maybe her strategic game isn't the strongest, (debatable), but her social game was incredible. She should have been Shannon Elizabeth'd with her comp prowess, but she was way too socially graceful for that to happen. I have a hard time seeing her go through a week or even a half week if she gets backdoored and actually getting evicted on Thursday. Then she got Neda'd =(
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they expect kids to believe they might all really gone.

man i wish i was a kid right now
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NFUN posted...

However, it was also significantly dumber than I thought it would be. So much of the movie was just unnecessary had characters been less moronic at various points. It was the epitome of "tactics over strategy". Why the f*** didn't Team Titan just f***ing kill Thanos when they had the chance? Why the f*** did Scarlett Witch[?] completely forget why she was even there and leave Vision alone**? The only characters that seemed capable of long-term thinking were Thor and Doctor Strange, presumably, and that's a back-handed compliment at best; had Thor acted like everybody else, he would've gone into battle without a weapon.

Man it's easy to see why your opinions are so bad when your ideas are so dumb.

It's so weird when people suggest the "obvious thing to do" for the heroes. Why not just kill Thanos???? Well, did you not notice the part where he is nearly impervious to their attacks? Why did Scarlet Witch leave the Vision? Well, did you not notice the giant war outside that she felt needed her attention?

Like yeah you are watching the movie and can see that maybe the "right" thing for her to do was to defend the Vision (even though that's debatable, letting her army die seems bad), you know that she's a character within the movie and can only see things from her perspective? She doesn't have your perfect perspective and obviously perfect insight? She felt it was important to be near the Vision and protect him, both for the sake of the mind gem and because of her personal relationship with him, but also felt that her considerable abilities were needed by her allies at that time. It's ridiculous to state that characters are moronic because of decisions like this. They can only act on what they know.

It's just like the "well why doesn't Thanos make infinite resources?" thing people keep saying. Why do you think he can do that? he can undoubtedly create resources. He can probably make A LOT of resources. But why do you think he can make infinite resources? Enough for everybody everywhere forever? The snap clearly destroyed the gauntlet, which is a one time killing of half the universe, but apparently it's the obvious choice to just create infinite resources for everyone because he can do that?
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I LOVE the Scarlet Witch Vision relationship. I was skeptical they would even attempt it despite their interactions in Civil War but it was great. Huge fan of Elizabeth Olsen.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Doctor Strange and maybe Captain America 1 deserve to move up a tier.

Oops, I did forget Age of Ultron. I knew I was forgetting at least one movie... and when I remembered Thor I popped it in and called it a day. Whoops. I agree it goes in the good tier.

I give Cap 1 a lot of credit but I think it's right where it should be. Those are all good movies... they just don't fill me with awe like the QUALITY tier. Doctor Strange is the same way. It had great visuals, the end sequence with Dormammu was great, Cumberbund really filled in the role... but ultimately the stuff with Kaecilius all felt really generic. I think Ant-Man is really good too but basically no origin story blew me away in the same way that Iron Man did. That's why Iron Man kinda has it's own tier. It's the standard films really need to beat for me. Iron Man 1 was just so good in it's own way, but isn't a perfect movie. It's the movies that really knock things out of the park and wow me that go above it - being a good origin movie isn't good enough to be better than Iron Man.
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Age of Ultron feeds directly into Ragnarok with some certain Thor scenes - so the correct order would definitely be Thor 2 - Age of Ultron - Ragnarok. The odd thing is that Age of Ultron doesn't point to Ragnarok at all.
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Somebody on reddit made this helpful guide to how the movies relate to eachother:

https://i.redd.it/124f0zuvsbu01.jpg

And then someone cleaned it up



So that's kinda neat. Honestly, it's hard to suggest you a "these are the ones that matter the most" guide, because they all kinda matter in their own way. Either watch them all, watch the best ones, or just go into Infinity War blind.

In my opinion, there are some varying levels of quality, with Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 2, and Incredible Hulk at the bottom, but there's 7 films that I personally feel are extremely good, and whenever a new movie has come out, when I think about how good it was, either it's on the level of those good movies and it joins their ranks, and I can't really decide which of htem is better than the other, or they join the middle of the pack, below the good movies but above the three worst movies.

So here's my tier list. I havent' really ranked the movies within a tier against eachother

THANOS TIER:

Avengers: Infinity War

QUALITY TIER:

The Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Captain America: Civil War
Black Panther
Thor Ragnarok
Spider-Man: Homecoming

YOU MUST BE ABOVE THIS LINE TO BE GREAT TIER:

Iron Man

Good Movie tier:

Doctor Strange
Ant-Man
Iron Man 3
Captain America: The First Avenger
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2
Thor
Avengers Age of Ultron

Mediocre Tier

The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor The Dark World
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IDK what even is going on with this topic series, one minute its the survivor /bb/TAR topic then next its just survivor???? I'm just gonna talk about reality tv kthx
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ya you better hide from me
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Paras is by far my favourite. I looooove her. She's always been great on the live feeds too. She's very strongly strategic, but has done an incredible job of downplaying it.... Maybe too good because people actually believe she's dumb. She's been too wishy washy lately on committing to decisions and has made some mistakes, which is why she's only considered the "acceptable" choice now rather than a great one - she's left herself in a position where she likely can't beat the showmance which is very strong at comps. She's often considered better at the game than Derek, but obviously Derek's showmance has been controlling the late game and you can't argue with results, so Derek is likely to win over her. But Kaela is probably the strongest winner. Paras winning HoH at 4 actually might give her credibility towards winning the game though. If she wins Final 3 HOH, which is a bit if a stretch against Daela, it might give her the clout she needs. Some jurors like Ryan will vote for her, and Kaela is afraid of final 2 with her.

There was a very long period of the game where the three pillars of the house were considered to be Kaela, Paras, and Erika. Everybody loved and thought they were working with Paras (but thought she was dumb), and everybody loved and thought they were working with Erika, and everyone was whispering about targeting the showmance, but noone would ever pull the trigger because they were afraid of being the one to do it too soon.

It was honestly an incredible game to follow the live feeds on throughout the season. There was so much fluidity in the house. The pillars may have been Erika, Paras, and Kaela, but it's not like there were three sides of the house. Everybody was allied with everyone and there was so much shifting and political maneuvering. People would sell eachother out constantly and then people would find out about it but it would be yesterdays news so quickly. Like, in another season, if person A talked badly about person B who they were allied with, person B finding out about it and being like "I CANT BELIEVE 'A' BETRAYED ME LIKE THAT" would be a giant moment in the season... but it would happen several times a day in this house.

The edit is still fun to watch by itself, but it's done a very poor job of showing the dynamics in the house. Like the week Johnny was on the block against Ryan, he was going home 100% and throughout the week he did a MASTERFUL job of manipulating everybody in the house into thinking he was on their side and it was in their best interest to keep him... even Ale/Liv and the showmance. It was really incredible stuff, like top player of all time discussion worthy, and the edit didn't show it all.... They gave Ale the credit. And then she went out the next week. Ugh that's frustrating

Johnny and Erika were incredible players btw. They were a bit too good at comps for their own good, (it's legit that Erika actually did try throwing comps but couldn't help but win it anyways) but it honestly didn't matter too much. If not for the two big twists of the season, which were the triple eviction and the Canada's veto that saved Ryan, there is no way they would have went out when they did with their ability to socially and strategically manipulate the house. They were easily the best players in the house and I can't see that they would lose to anybody except eachother if not for twists. But, well, I guess you have to expect the unexpected....

Even a lot of the worse player are still guys like Ryan, Maddy, and Will, who even when they are unable to accomplish the goals that they want, still have their own agency and try to accomplish their own goals. There were only really a couple players like Merron who were legit goats, and they all went out prejury (along with Erika ;_;)

Honestly, Taran's live feed updates are sooo worth the listen. I often don't even watch every episode but I can't miss Taran's updates
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....that was fast

I'm like 2 weeks behind on episodes and I don't have it in me to actually watch all of them in their entirety

power rankings of players go
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Gon stealing Hisoka's badge is such a great moment, for so many reasons. The planning that went into it, that Gon really just focused on the goal of taking the badge and not necessarily defeating Hisoka, his fear of Hisoka, the general tenseness of the moment, Hisoka's bloodlust as he's going to kill that dude..... and like you point out, the fact that Gon doesn't actually worry about saving that guy. He's just focused on himself.

After all this time it's one of the definitive moments of the series for me.

Along with a related moment later on...
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man this sazzmi gentlehorn boss is ridiculous
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No. They go to Wakanda and a lot of Black Panther characters are there, but it's fine. It might give you a bit of an idea of how Black Panther turned out if you end up watching that movie but I don't think it matters too much.
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I think Gamora looks great, but I do feel like the performance has always felt off. I certainly don't buy her as "the fiercest woman in the galaxy". Like if you dropped her in a room full of bad guys I don't really feel like she would wreck all of their shit like I do with.... almost every other hero in the MCU.

She's "okay" but I don't find her exciting in the least like I thought I would before GotG premiered.
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The stuff about will with Thanos is actually really good. Despite being a genocidal warmongering space tyrant with unlimited power, he's actually rather compassionate, and it's not just towards Gamora. He genuinely respects his opponents like Stark, and he empathizes with the Scarlet Witch after she sacrifices Vision. He doesn't mock anybody, and he doesn't enjoy what he's doing. Killing people doesn't bring him pleasure, he actually seems to feel kind of bad about it, but he just won't let feelings like that get in the way of doing what he feels like he has to do.
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Djungelurban posted...

That movie was just a bummer. The individual character arcs are all rushed and underdeveloped, specific character motivations are very questionable in atleast a half dozen different occasions but the biggest problem is it's just too stuffed with too many characters, but they don't spend enough time with any of them and they all end up feeling somewhat inconsequential to the story at large. I mean, all plays a part, but all plays a very small part. The set pieces are just too numerous and too brief and scattershot and the movie never leaves enough room for the scenes to breathe and calm down. It's just a big special effect extravaganza, which I'm sure appeals to people who get excited by pretty colors, but I actually want a good story. But there's no time to tell a good story, there are too many characters to stuff in there and too many action set pieces to put on display... Overall it's just a mess of a movie and the fact that the next movie is supposed to have even more characters stuffed into it makes me seriously concerned...

I think this is actually completely wrong. They did all the things you think they should have done, and that's why it's so good. It's so much more than a special effect extravaganza. Yeah, there's a lot of characters, but they are all handled appropriately and used exactly when and where they need to be. There's quite a few characters that have their own engaging character lines that work out well, but the big one is Thanos, and boy is his well done.

Lightning Strikes said it best with this post

Lightning Strikes posted...

Saw it, loved it. Really impressed with how strong the performances were with that massive cast, and how much the film hinged on character and story when it could've very easily been a fanservice-laden smash fest.

There are other similar movies that lean on the spectacle of it all and think that will carry the movie. This isn't that.
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There have been low key talks between SK and NK for awhile now, and we saw them cooperating at the Olympic Winter Games. So it could be real diplomacy happening.

I don't think the US or the rest of the world is really having a big impact here. It seems between them. I'm not sure why anybody thinks Trump is the cause of this. The extent of that relationship is just Kim Jong Un and Trump ranting at eachother....

Who knows if NK is genuinely keeping up their end of the bargain though.
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Did Proxima Midnight remind you guys of anyone?

I couldn't place it for most of the movie, but towards the end I was like, holy shit, she sounds exactly like Kerrigan. This bitch is the Queen of Blades! She even looks like her! The Queen of Blades is fucking our heroes shit up!

This is a video with Kerrigan's voice that sounds really similar to it, amongst many other examples. Though there are many times where she's less infested where she doesn't sound like that.

Or maybe it's just me. I looked into it and I don't think there's any kind of actor connection. It seems coincidental.
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i think if we started making this topic in 2003 and made it every year, it woulda started with completely flipped results and slowly shift towards our current position every year
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What's the opening you guys are talking about? I actually haven't seen the 2011 version, I watched the original and then picked up the manga when all the OVA's were done. (and then dropped the manga in the current arc cuz it sucks now)

But this was the first opening for the original, and I LOVED it. I really felt like it fit the arc and Gon's attitude in general and just always left me feeling good. The theme and title is "Ohayou" which means good morning.


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this was incredible

honestly just incredible

Thanos is the main character of this movie and he's just excellent. One of the best characters in all of the MCU

I'm caught up in hype but I think this is the best MCU movie.
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great episode. Desiree tried to make a move but did it poorly and it blew up on her. Watching the fall out was fun especially because of Kellyn's complete refusal to accept that Desi would try to back stab her. To her credit, what Laurel was saying was pretty good for Malolo to shift the target on them, and it sure was convenient that only Malolo's were ever around to hear her talk about flipping. It woulda been extra interesting if Angela or Chelsea had been there and doubled down and agreed with her that it never happened - it woulda made them liars along with Desiree.

I guess Kellyn came around in the end. I don't know why people think Kellyn is a really strategic player though. She's just been blindly pushing "keep naviti strong" the entire game with literally zero attempt at bonding with any Malolo's to possibly use if things go sideways. It's not a bad idea to get to the end but.... that's where her game starts and where it ends.

That was Desiree's mistake, too. when did she bond with *any* of those Malolo's enough to just walk up to all four of them and be like "hey wanna blindside my allies with me????" Did she really believe they would just snap to attention for her because they are at the bottom and do everything she says?

IMO, possible winners from now on are: Dom, Wendell, Laurel, Donathan, and Michael. I don't think Seabass, Chelsea, Jenna, or Angela have a shot, and while Kellyn does have a shot, I don't think she has what it takes.
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Eddv posted...

Enough butthurt to kill the franchise?

Please baby please.

it would be tough to top this post
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I think a lot of the movie sucks. The overall setting of the first order, and the resistance being so small. The main plot being about the rebel ships being slowly chased across a sector by the star destroyers felt really weird here. Trying to convince me this was the LAST HOPE OF THE REBELLION didn't work at all. It's been like 30 years since ROTJ and the good guys are down to their last dregs already? It felt like a cool premise for a spinoff movie like Rogue One, not the actual plot of a main trilogy movie trying to convince me everything is really on the line in this slow speed chase. Poe and his entire arc really sucked. Finn and Rose's Bonus Journey sucked, and felt really out of place. Hey, we are slowly being followed by a star destroyer with no hope of escape for anybody, but can you two in particular go to a far off system and find a very specific guy and get back here to complete a task? The code breaker himself fell flat as well. I couldn't understand a word Del Toro said. I like the idea of adding a morally grey character but it wasn't executed well. It didn't really get better when they got down to the planet. Everything about their charge to the LITERAL DEATH STAR in those speeder things felt stupid. These events were like 70-80% of the movie but it all sucked.

That said, the stuff I consider to be "main Star Wars material" was EXCELLENT. Everything to do with Rey, Kylo Ren, Luke, and Snoke was great. I really enjoyed everything that happened with them. Really good stuff, especially Luke. A lot of people are really pissed with Luke's path in life, and get caught up with him "Trying to murder young Ben" but I think it all made perfect sense. I was also on board with Leia force pulling herself out of the void of space. That pissed a lot of people off for some reason but I was totally on board with it.

And of course, the light speed collision was cool as hell, even though it's not really an idea consistent with the rest of the universe. If you could destroy bigger ships and fleets with this method suicide bombers would be doing it all the time.
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i hate when games reuse names from another title in the series so i can't tell which version of the game people are talking about

like star wars battlefront

BOOO THIS GAME SUCKS
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What all podcasts do you guys listen to? I just started with this stuff with HvHvH and I dove in and listened to like everything. I loved the Know It Alls the best, but i listened to the interviews/This Week in Survivor History, the celeb recap episode, and the Wiggle Room every week. Sometimes even the B&B with Liana. But It's so much content to listen to in a week, and I follow the Big Brother Canada live feed updates every day too with Taran who I love, so this season I'm just listening to the Know It Alls. I kinda miss the Wandoff...
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my roommate makes it with lemon juice too and i think it would be pretty good without any of that fucking lemon juice
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but like, what's appealing about it? is it really comfortable or something?

like i see streamers wearing it, on purpose, so that people notice it and think they are being trendy

but what's trendy about this? it's the most basic and boring logo imaginable

is it a joke? are people liking it ironically?
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can someone explain this to me
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Man, apparently Baby Genius movies were INCREDIBLY poorly recieved?

I saw it in theatres with a friend when we were like 10, and after the movie he started calling me Cly in the style of Sly.... Obviously the movie just copied it from Stallone but we didn't know that.

I was named from an apparently super bad movie.
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i love michael but i'm afraid he's going to end up with his back against the wall one too many times
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I think edit reading is massively overrated. I see you guys complain about how obvious it is half the time and then get angry when the edit bamboozled you... it makes no sense.
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i go into work every day thinking that today is the day they figure out i don't know what i'm talking about

but instead they continue to think i walk on water i dont get it
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Wendell is great.
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that's a good point

kripp is lucky all the time. he's made never lucky a funny meme because he gets so salty over the losses and bad luck, but almost never recognizes and acknowledges the good luck he also has all the time.

so if you are luckier than kripp you must be quite lucky indeed
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i just played hydrologist against a secret mage on turn 3 into his frozen clone

why am i so dumb
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That's Emilia Clarke? Huh.

gonna have to disagree on this one
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