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We don't know. But there's no particular observed reason the space wouldn't just pointlessly expand forever.

Garioshi posted...

The whole point of the heat death of the universe is that no work can be done and therefore no change can be made. If it was truly heat dead, it wouldn't contract.

Space doesn't rely on heat tho.

PC > mobile > Nintendo > PlayStation > Xbox

I'm petty and put mobile above because of free online multiplayer. >_>

VFalcone posted...

Nasser Hospital is gone now.

In late April, a mass grave containing nearly 300 bodies was discovered following the withdrawal of Israeli forces earlier in the month, according to Gazan civil defence workers.

Horrifying.

The only people who would just stay the same in office are guys like Bernie casting protest votes alone for years. People utterly reviled by the major parties.

The rest can be swayed to some extent by party consensus.

Lol that Israel fan has me blocked.

Hamas gets more popular in Gaza the more Israel kills civilians, so this "continuing" is not productive. Peace is necessary to get the warmongers out.

Based.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Not all evidence is equal either though. If someone posts more newsmax articles than you that doesnt mean they win.

One could debunk the Newsmax articles by finding contradictory reports from media outlets rated more credibly by neutral arbiters. There's no need to simply eject from the argument entirely.

Soliloquy_Rhap posted...

But what about someone who just makes up lies and when that lie is exposed just makes new lies? At some point you have to bring up them being a habitual liar and thus that makes them non-credible.

If someone is lying then the appropriate response is to call for substantiation. When they fail to provide it the lie is dismissed. There isn't really a need to keep a tally, the one lie doesn't become any more false just because there were 10 lies beforehand.

There's no way of objectively determining who is "correct" about a specific issue unless you are omniscient. Otherwise there is always the potential that you're unaware of some detail that invalidates your conclusion.

All that can be determined is who presented more evidence in their favor. And someone pivoting to personal smears is abandoning the call to provide evidence.

masterpug53 posted...

Marjorie Taylor Greene is the type of person who believes the topic title to be correct.

Marjorie Taylor Greene starts every debate with personal attacks bereft of any substance whatsoever, so you might want to re-examine who agrees with who.

He shouldn't address them since doing so wouldn't go well. But:

Kain_Highwind posted...

arguing their numbers are too insignificant to harm the president's reelection campaign

This dude's campaign is ignorant. The elections are swayed by a few dozen thousand votes in swing states. There is no way of knowing if the sentiment represented by the protestors is statistically relevant or not.

They're letting the honeruns handed to them in 2020 go to their head. This is a significantly tougher election.

Soliloquy_Rhap posted...

Although perhaps one could even say claiming someone can only resort to personal attacks is itself a personal attack on them by referring to them as someone who can only resort to personal attacks.

Retaliatory and conditional though; the recipient could debunk the suspicion by simply doing something else.

A lot of times a personal attacks debater is simply stating the insult as fact and leaving no room to challenge it, further betraying the notion of debate.

Soliloquy_Rhap posted...

Like with that logic a literal baby being completely incoherent automatically wins the argument by someone pointing out that it's a baby who isn't capable of being articulate.

Well the baby hasn't presented an argument yet, meaning there's no obligation for the other side to do so.

Not having an argument is only problematic if the other side does.

joaquintall posted...

I remember when GWB was campaigning against Al Gore. GWB said: if Al Gore invented the internet, then why is it spelled DUBYA DUBYA DUBYA? Repubs lapped it up, even though every part of it was complete rubbish.

To be fair if the original point is bullshit then the rebuttal doesn't need to not be bullshit. Al Gore did not invent the internet so it doesn't really matter how they responded to the concept that he did.

Soliloquy_Rhap posted...

Having more downvotes/people against you in the thread would be a bigger indicator you lost the debate and those aren't 100% applicable either.

Isn't that argumentum ad populum tho?

The reason I say resorting exclusively to personal attacks loses the debate is because you are no longer challenging the point, but rather the one presenting the point, which should be irrelevant. And if one is no longer challenging a point the presumption is that they can't. Meanwhile one simply having more opponents in a debate doesn't say anything about the quality of either side's challenge.

I wouldn't even take a debate about the the morality of lying or the color of the sky. One is entirely subjective while the other is judged by individual perception that can't actually be verified as universal. Proving these stances is above my pay grade, so instead of futilely arguing them then throwing a tantrum when I can't and pretending I won just because most people say "lying is bad and the sky is blue", I'd simply avoid the discussion entirely.

rick_alverado posted...

Probably means you won the debate, but winning a debate and being correct are two different things.

Good point.

C.

divot1338 posted...

Why would a ghostwriter care what happens after they get paid?

Do you not know how anything works?

If you build a reputation for writing trash you're not gonna get hired very much tho.

checkmate

Yes because I live in the ghetto with a trash family.

ReiRei89 posted...

and anti-Biden bros will claim fat fuck is the same as Biden.

Overall they're not close to the same but there are specific instances where they do similar things. Like slipping up during speeches.

Yes.

It'd be nice if we were able to point out stuff like this without people flipping out. Too much political sensitivity nowadays.

On the extremes there's a lot of similar behavior.

I definitely won't. Already a bunch of chronic health issues lol.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumpification-libertarian-party-actually-hurt-064400410.html

When the Libertarian Party recently invited Donald Trump to speak at its annual convention later this month, the move sparked plenty of outrage inside the partyand a lot of intrigue outside it.

The idea that I completely wrote the GOP off only to have Trump follow me into the Libertarian Party really upsets me and upsets a lot of people, Jonathan Casey, whose involvement in Libertarian Party politics dates back to 2016, told The Dispatch.

Until the Trump invitation, the Libertarian Party had mostly been an afterthought for outside observers in the 2024 presidential campaign, but it shouldnt have been. Whoever wins the partys nomination for president later this month at the Libertarian National Convention will be on the ballot in at least 37 states, including the battlegrounds of Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada. The last two presidential election were decided by a few states where the victor prevailed by less than 1 percentage point, so its plausible the Libertarian candidate could sway the outcomeeven if he falls short of winning the 3.3 percent of the national popular vote won by 2016 Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson or the 1.2 percent of the popular vote garnered by 2020 nominee Jo Jorgenson.

So why, exactly, did a minor party whose raison dtre is to reject the two major parties invite the presumptive GOP nominee to potentially overshadow the convention where Libertarian Party delegates will pick their own presidential nominee? That is a hotly contested question within a Libertarian Party that is deeply divided between two factionsthe Mises Caucus and the Classical Liberal Caucus.

The Trump invitation is absolutely designed to discourage anybody who would challenge [the Mises Caucus] from showing up, said Casey, who serves as chair of the Classical Liberal Caucus. Moreover, Joshua Eakle, a classical liberal who served as Tennessee state party chairman until 2021, worries that if Rectenwald wins the Libertarian Party nomination, he could theoretically suspend his campaign, either immediately after being endorsed or, say, before the election and endorse Trump.

The difference between Trump and Biden is like the difference between stomach cancer and pancreatic cancer. You definitely dont want either one, but one might kill you a little slower, Harris said, before identifying Trump as maybe the less-bad cancer.

Trump admitted he's just going there to beg the party to vote Republican:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=lA1c_Xzmd30

What the fuck is libertarian about Donald Trump? This seems like it's just the party going mask off.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/fetterman-sunrise-movement-climate-activist-video/

Sen. John Fetterman (D-Penn.) was seen mocking and evading questions from a constituent in a viral video posted this week by the Sunrise Movement, a grassroots climate justice organization. The interaction has led to widespread backlash from progressives online.

Fetterman has been accused of flip-flopping on energy and climate policiesand some see his past support for the Sunrise Movement and current ridicule of the group as further proof of that shift.

In a video posted on X and TikTok yesterday but filmed last week, a constituent from Chester County, Pennsylvania, questioned Fetterman on his criticism of President Joe Bidens liquefied gas pause, which the Biden Administration spearheaded to shield those living in areas that export the gas from the pollution it creates.

The constituent mentioned oil pipelines being built in Chester County, which Fetterman protested alongside the Sunrise Movement in 2018. As shown in the video, Fetterman filmed her as she spoke and sarcastically said Oh, I didnt expect this, after she greeted him.

Why the change of heart? the constituent asked. Why arent you standing with [the] people of Pennsylvania right now?

Fetterman quickly ducked into an elevator. Its doors closed as he began to answer the constituents questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwjgmA82srE

It'd be one thing if this dude just always openly loved oil and never cared about the environment, but he literally used these movements to boost his political profile before abandoning their causes after getting elected. Speedrunning to Sinema status.

GranTurismo posted...

you think she will ever win presidency though?

Not unless someone picks her for VP. Doesn't have a great shot in the primary or general.

Obviously.

Not the first time he got mad at a reporter for being called something. >_>

"a week ago Biden was winning in 10 different polls"

Those were probably national polls. Don't think anyone but chuds expect Trump to win the popular vote.

"look at election results around this country for the last year in a half"

Those aren't presidential elections though. Republicans were winning local election after local election from 2010 to 2012 and yet Obama still beat Romney.

The polling averages are off because the aggregators keep counting garbage polls, yes. But even the credible pollsters that got the special election results right ALSO consider 2024 a close race. It's just unfounded to assume your preferred candidate is stomping this race. No data supports any such conclusion at all.

Trump is so dumb he keeps forgetting his debate stipulations. He should've mentioned before even agreeing to any debates. Easy way to dodge them.

Shadow_Don posted...

This isn't even the first time this shit has happened. It was the same thing with tulsi gabbard as well. Yall were gushing over that clown when it was painfully fucking obvious she was a total fraud and possibly even a straight up agent of Russia.

To be fair Tulsi Gabbard never said she was progressive. She presented herself as an opponent of America's wars of regime change, and remained one even when it was Trump trying to instigate regime change in Venezuela. Her story as to why she endorsed Bernie in 2016 remained consistent regardless of any unsavory beliefs she held otherwise.

The only "betrayal" on that specific front was endorsing Biden, a global interventionist, in the 2020 primary in a pretty clear attempt to fish for a VP slot.

The sitewide rules are biased. They allow hate subs to stay up based on who's targeted and shut down subs that discuss forbidden subjects even if the talk is so benign it'd be allowed on a board like this one.

On the other hand I don't care too much about the downvotes. I get trashed far more vocally here for non-hivemind opinions lol. On Reddit people mostly just downvote and move on, and I rarely get more downvotes than upvotes (apparently the people who agree with an odd opinion are much more likely to quietly upvote it than to actually speak out in favor of it).

Also don't get modded nearly as much on Reddit, since beyond the sitewide rules and topicality rules plenty of subs are lax on content enforcement (just stay away from the ones that aren't). The rules are often clear on Reddit, even if you don't like them, while the mods here basically just BS you tbh.

008Zulu posted...

Does the ROG still have that thermal issue, that kills your memory card?

Newer models come with a hardware fix for the issue. And the Ally X places the SD card reader far away from the fan exhaust so there's no issue to begin with.

I found it mid as hell but then liked Xillia 2, though plenty others feel the opposite way.

StealThisSheen posted...

...Wait, what? How did we get to this point from "X's wife literally liked posts that called her a Nazi, and that's bad, no matter whether she was 'trolling' or not."

A tangent was started regarding whether it was morally correct to get KF taken down via a lie. I was simply making a point that if a group is so bad that the truth is damning enough, then it's pointlessly risky to target them with lies, because the dispute eventually being proven in their favor would throw them a bone they don't deserve.

AceMos posted...

yes they are the person who made the topic made the video in the topic

What I mean is that the video itself is about mutahar's wife already arguing with other people about the subject on Twitter. Meaning the Redditors weren't her first accusers.

Dio posted...

KF deserved to be shut down. And anyone saying otherwise is wrong. The site is more racist then a klan meeting. Keffals was absolutely just to take it down and anyone saying otherwise is wrong. Keffals is a horrible person. That part is true. So what? She's the only one who willing to burn the site.

Nah when you use fake propaganda against a group and get exposed you add fuel to the group's message. The site still exists on another domain and now it gets the edge for being right about Keffals while all its critics at the time were played for fools by her.

Like imagine an alternate universe where Trump's election denialism was somehow proven credible. That would not be good.

Dio posted...

Keffals may be bad but that site deserved to burn. It's absolute a blackhole of genuine racism and transphobia. When 99% of the threads have some variation of racial slur hurled towards blacks you know that site is bad. But, sadly, most the alt-right YT grifters support that site.

It's true that the forum is a den of bigotry and bullying but that still doesn't make it right to spread lies about it. There's enough 100% factual info on the community to denounce it. Literally lying about them and then getting caught doing it just generates sympathy for them that they were otherwise never going to get.

I've seen videos on this subject from channels that originally supported Keffals now clearing their name without mentioning why they were bad to begin with (since they're afraid of being seen as in any way still siding with Keffals), with the comments sections devolving into how the forum was "unfairly" censored and right all along (which is basically a broken clock being right twice scenario, since if your forum is dedicated to trashing literally everyone then eventually you catch some people who warranted it). It's best not to vindicate creepy maniacs.

Rika_Furude posted...

Cant really go wrong with the rog ally. PC gaming still favours windows, so running windows is better. Im not denying the progress the Steam Deck has made towards making Linux more palatable for gaming but its only good at the moment so long as you stick with specifically that database of whats compatible on the steam deck and dont venture outside of that

If I could justify having both I'd use the Ally for anything that requires Windows (currently using the Switch as a cheap substitute ) or better hardware than the Deck has, and the Deck for everything else.

Gaming on Windows is mostly only better when your game literally requires Windows, otherwise all the background process bloat is a drain on performance, since Windows just isn't purely dedicated to gaming. There are also older games made for older Windows versions that now run better on Deck because Proton retains their dependencies while modern versions of Windows either got rid of them or modified them beyond recognition, or because SteamOS has built-in bypasses for physical accessory requirements that portable Windows doesn't yet.

And I guess emulation-wise Windows is way better for Android emulation than SteamOS, since Valve went with a Linux distro that doesn't easily emulate it unfortunately. Missed opportunity.

AceMos posted...

no one is defending keffals thoe

the reddit topic i linked to is shitting on her

I'm not referring to anyone in that Reddit thread, they're not the source of the research.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

I dont understand why multiple people have said this is a distraction from Keffals. Multiple things can be true and happen at once.

Keffals sucks and at the same time Mutahars wife is very clearly showing that she self identifies as a nazi. Why do people act like both of things cant be true at once? Is it Keffals fault that mutas wife posts this shit online for everyone to see?

It's just very tacky that the Keffals camp digs up whatever they can find about whoever exposes her bullshit at any given time.

In this case the dirt is true (and tbh Mutahar's a bit of an jerk in general) but they're not above just making shit up either, which was the whole reason she was called out to begin with.

ClayGuida posted...

Honestly, there's always going to be extremists, the proper idea is to expand the House so they're only representing tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands. It used to be 33,000 in 1790, now it's 765,000.

Increasing the number would give extremists less power, but also give members more personal power as they won't have to dial for dollars nearly as much, as there would be thousands of elections instead of hundreds. A smaller constituent base would also allow them to actually hear and listen to their district. It'd also severely limit gerrymandering, which is why Republicans would never go for it.

The House has been the same size since the 1910's, despite adding more states in that same period.

If we added districts based on population it helps Dems, but if we added districts based on land it helps Rs. Naturally that means no agreement will ever be reached on how to do it. >_>

DarthAragorn posted...

That sounds like it is in fact their fault.

Well I guess, just less directly than usual. >_>

Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted...

This topic is a huge overreaction. He's not attacking AOC. He's attacking the reality that House hearings have this stuff happen regularly because
1. Having 438 seats leads to unserious bomb throwers like MTG getting elected
2. The House lacks the decorum standards of the Senate so when you get those types, it's chaos.

Outside of some crappy Israel stances, Fetterman has been pretty good policy wise. Trying to paint him out as a Sinema type over 1 fucking stance that is common amongst Dems is lunacy

Part of the problem is that he's an obnoxious troll regarding all his stances.

Guys like Jon Tester, Mark Kelly, Tim Kaine, etc. have some unfavorable stances but nobody cares because they generally keep to themselves unless specifically interviewed. They vote and move on.

Fetterman does not shut the fuck up, and while people were fine with that when it was directed towards the likes of Oz and Trump, it becomes clear how much of a rude douchebag he is when he's targeting people with actual reasonable stances (progressives, the Squad, Israel critics, literally anyone who criticizes Biden for any reason, etc.)

And on top of that he literally lied about his political wing alignment. You don't call yourself a Bernie guy on campaign but then become an attack dog for mainstream Democrats as soon as you're elected and don't need the fringe votes anymore.

Tried to warn people to stop using ImgTC since it kept going down but everyone believed it'd always eventually come back.

Now a ton of memes are lost forever. >_>

Imagine if once you're this advanced species like us humans come off as pointless to talk to.

Because anything able to make a dyson sphere would've been able to find us by now. >_>

Trumble posted...

*fingers crossed for a 32GB RAM option*

EDIT: Quick Google suggests the only RAM option will be 24GB. I mean... that's still a decent improvement over 16.

Didn't know it was boosting the RAM, that probably puts it solidly ahead of the rest. People have complained about the X still not being OLED but honestly the screen is already so good it doesn't really need to be.

I definitely respect the effort the Ally puts into hardware (early SD card issues aside). The Deck unfortunately, while otherwise masterfully crafted, heavily prioritized its GPU cores over its CPU cores to ensure that triple A games worked. Personally I'm not a heavy triple A gamer, most games I play aren't remotely graphically intensive, but because some feature a ton of gameplay calculations the CPU limitations can effect even them (and god forbid your game is both GPU and CPU intensive, like Starfield or BG3). Like how the Go's lack of VRR can effect even indie games, since players often take advantage of their lack of graphical intensiveness to try to run them at high FPS instead. While the Ally basically has all bases covered on the hardware side.

I remember saying nominating a guy who held an innocent black man at gunpoint was stupid and everyone claiming I was somehow talking in bad faith about something "nobody cares about".

There was literally an actual progressive, Malcom Kenyatta, running, and everyone just ignored him.

DarthAragorn posted...

Be cool if democrats could or more accurately would put up literally anyone worth a damn

To be fair this one isn't directly the Dem leaders' faults, they didn't want Fetterman.

Problem is the establishment dude they ran against him, Conor Lamb, was also garbage. Literally a Joe Manchin friend ready to join his centrist clique after winning.

Bruh you forgot the MSI Claw. lol

Anyway the Deck provides the best general gaming environment and battery life, but its hardware is outdated for triple A games at this point unless they optimize specifically for the Deck (devs will usually grant an optimization patch within a month of release if they see a lot of players want the game to work on the Deck), forcing you to compromise on graphic quality and frames per second. Also some multiplayer games use anti-cheat systems that block SteamOS (ex. Call of Duty, Destiny, Fortnite, etc.), which is unfortunate since SteamOS is way better for gaming than Windows otherwise.

But if you're stuck with a Windows handheld for whatever reason then the Ally is the best option. It's 1.5x stronger than the Deck (though that doesn't show as much as it should, since all else equal Windows runs games worse than SteamOS) and has a bigger 1080p screen with the best color quality of the non-OLED handhelds. The Ally X is also releasing soon with substantial improvements to battery life and SD card management, the main hardware weaknesses it had compared to the Deck.

The Legion Go is huge and unfortunately doesn't have variable refresh rate abilities like the Ally does, so trying to actually fully utilize its 1200p screen can cause FPS hiccups for many games. The Deck doesn't have VRR either but it's less of an issue there because its screen is 800p and honestly you're probably gonna run into some other bottleneck on Deck anyway.

cjsdowg posted...

Naw he picked this guy hoping Republicans would push him thru. Making the Republicans look unreasonable doesn't help here. Since this was guy people on who for Democrat did not like. If he was have picked a minority or someone white dude that the left really liked. And Republicans said know that would have helped more people get out and vote.

Obama was targeting centrists. He was hoping the GOP being absurd would help turn them off.

Obama's strategy was always roping in Democrats, youths, and progressives with his force of personality and bold talk while tailoring his actual political actions (VP pick, adaption of moderate Republican legislation, compromises with McConnell, etc.) towards winning over swing voters.

Unfortunately in 2016 he wasn't the candidate, someone far less charismatic and trustworthy than him was, so none of this actually worked on the right people and we were just left with the crap political moves.

Part of guys like Chris Brown and Dr. Dre being excused for beating up women is that they were younger dudes at the time and it was assumed they could mature. (for the record, they didn't, consequences of them not being sent to jail like any normal fucking person would)

P. Diddy was 46 when this happened and then he hid it for years. It's just who he's always gonna be.

Elon Musk is still bitter about being fired from leadership of the previous x.com (an online banking service, that ended up merged into PayPal) back in the year 2000, when its board of directors opted to move forward with Peter Thiel as CEO instead.

After becoming richer and more powerful he bought the x.com domain back from PayPal in 2017, and revived it years later by rebranding Twitter into it.

This was the site that for decades Elon was broken up about losing: https://web.archive.org/web/20000408232656/http://www.x.com/