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At random, you are more likely to be power or Scum than vanilla. I mean, you're also more likely to be any other role than the one you are, so it doesn't really matter, but eh.

ScareChan posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

Like, the mistake Eaed made I cant compare to the mistake Scare made back then. (Though that doesnt exactly make Eaed confirmed town either.)

That's fair, but also, the flavor thing I am taking into zero account when I call him Scum.

And taking the role claim into account, I mean, odds are higher, at random pick, that you draw a power or scum role as opposed to vanilla, right? So odds are, ignoring that hes acted as scum, his claim is a lie.

Anyway, hes Scum but so is Reg.

Get on corrik

Also what do you think about battle

So he can say "I'm doing things" and waste our time more?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

Like, the mistake Eaed made I cant compare to the mistake Scare made back then. (Though that doesnt exactly make Eaed confirmed town either.)

That's fair, but also, the flavor thing I am taking into zero account when I call him Scum.

And taking the role claim into account, I mean, odds are higher, at random pick, that you draw a power or scum role as opposed to vanilla, right? So odds are, ignoring that hes acted as scum, his claim is a lie.

Anyway, hes Scum but so is Reg.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

red13n posted...

Also I'm far from the Han is town train.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Omg Scum literally always go "you're not as good as you think you are"

Death, Neab, can you explain why eaed's flavor is wrong so we can stick a fork in him and move on?

This is a worthless post. Han knows the value of raw flavor meta. Its worthless.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd think scum would have been raving on the scumboard for him to fix the flavor long before that. Not to mention, lets just get this out there, -every- host is going to provide flavor if you ask for it equal to what they've given out. Its just become a standard b8 thing. Paraphrase mistakes do happen, and honestly, they happen about equally on both sides. Unless you do something like claim literal newcomer in a game where everyone knows newcomers are scum(lol).

He does state his flavor properly later btw, but its quite awhile between his initial claim.

Han deferring hard to other people here as well. Hes placed an awful lot of trust in an awful lot of people so far.

Its not a worthless post, because I pointed out a scumtell (that you have been guilty of) and flavor meta literally should've killed half your team last game.

Like, calling that post worthless is... logically bad.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Aww snake

pichu;ivysaur
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Shaduln posted...

red13n posted...

Really? Because if I recall, last game he was mostly correct. But just got mislynched. You think hes really going to be hugely upset over it? To the point it affects his play.

Did you not read him yelling at FD? Especially the post game topic?

I wasn't yelling at him. I was being matter-of-fact.

And no, my behavior this game isn't chip-on-shoulder. I just had a lot of energy because I've been moving furniture around and I've been getting fired up about this game.

Anyway, vote Reg, good night.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I think Reg is right, we should lynch Jedimess instead of eaed or Reg.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ScareChan posted...

Reg posted...

Gun to my head, I'd say more likely scum than town. Which is still not going to cause me to
A) Not excercise caution over a specifically garbage aspect of it
B) Not want to explore as many avenues as possible on day 1

This feels like a scum post
Specifically phrasing of gun to my head
Especially if eaed is scum

I do like this post
But it is a bad haiku
Syllables all wrong
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Is eaed Town or Scum? What do you think?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Also, the "these arguments are bad" and "let's look elsewhere" are not joined statements.

thats what I got out of it. I'm saying "these arguments are bad" seems like better logic to me than the first. And unless I'm misreading, that is what you are saying Reg is saying.

And it's not "these arguments are bad", it's "this argument is bad". There have been plenty of things said about eaed. The only one Reg is really defending is the flavor one.

Hence why it's a soft defense, and not a full-out "guys, eaed isn't Scum for any of these reasons and has shown no reason to be Scum".
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

masterplum posted...

Eh, screw it sure
##unvote
##vote:Reg

CHOO CHOO

*snap*

Hbthebattle posted...

So, Han, you're committed to going after Eaed and Reg, in any order, at least at the moment?

Already went after eaed, like him as Scum, don't want to waste any more time pushing him. It's up to him to use the rest of the day to convince people otherwise. If we do end up lynching him (we will), and he flips Town, he at least has some time to actively pursue trains of thought without me breathing down his neck the whole time.

Reg posted...

red13n posted...

Also I'm not even sure what this is saying.

(It's saying Han walked in with the preconceived notion that I'm scum and is interpreting things to suit that conclusion)

(It's why I'm not particularly interested in bothering with him)

This is literally Reg pretending that I haven't looked at his posts at all. He's pretending I don't have a case on him.

He's so fucking obvious can we just pile on him already?

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I don't think Reg is bending backwards to save Ed, his push against the eaed train has been less "no this is a bad idea" and more of a "let's look elsewhere. Also, these arguments are bad".

Also I'm not even sure what this is saying.

"no this is a bad idea" is dumb logic.

Saying "these arguments are bad lets looks elsewhere" seems like a reasonable thought process to me.

I'm saying he's not full-on defending eaed, but doing it softly by ignoring a popular discussion point that others are on, while pushing a splinter without offering much.

Also, the "these arguments are bad" and "let's look elsewhere" are not joined statements.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg avoided eaed at first. Then, when he finally did dip his toes into it, it was more to softly defend him.

I'm saying he's defending the fuck out of him to make it clear to Reg that his soft defense is showing.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Day 1 is the best day because it's where Scum are trying to build their Town persona. They don't have any past activity to go to to create themselves - it's the best day for finding Scum via reading into tone in posts.

I don't think Reg is bending backwards to save Ed, his push against the eaed train has been less "no this is a bad idea" and more of a "let's look elsewhere. Also, these arguments are bad".

And while some Scum are certainly hyper-aware of how people think of them, I think a lot of Scum tend to hope the suspicion goes away.

As for points 1 and 2, I've talked about them already.

Plum, can I just say "gut" and have you join me?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

a lot of people seemed to go quiet once me and red and plum and scare all started biting at each other
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ftr, eaed was focusing on my arrogance because he's annoyed because he knows I'm right and thinks I'm being a jerk about it
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

I mean it didn't actually go well for Chris because nobody wanted to follow up on Jedi voters
So I would suggest not starting 3 vote trains, especially if one is on someone who has done nothing at all

Please, I'm not Chris.

And hey, Scare, I promise I'll look at HB in detail if you join me on Reg here.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

But no, really, I eat up praise like it's buffalo wings.

Plum, I can go back and repost some stuff, but I'm wayyy too energized and focused on this game right now and I need to move a dresser.

tl;dr

1. He gave excuses early on, when it was awkward.
2. He's shown annoyance of Scum getting caught when they think it was for a dumb reason (red knows this feeling very well)
3. He's been pushing against the eaed train, when we know eaed is for sure Scum.
4. He ignored arguments and suspicion on him, which is what Scum often do since they like to avoid confrontation and putting more spotlight on themselves (usually a subconscious play, but I would expect a vet returning from a hiatus to do that)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I hate it when people compliment me, it throws me off my game. I prefer it when people call me terrible.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

red13n posted...

Like, you say I did nothing but its in response to a post where I am literally trying to probe someone for information.

That doesn't seem right in the slightest.

Ok red I'm sorry, I was being overly harsh. I don't want to fight, because I also want you to look back at that post (eaed's?) where he was throwing some side-shade on you, and I said you'd agree with me that he looked Scummy for it.

masterplum posted...

I hate it when people compliment me, it throws me off my game. I prefer it when people call me terrible.

Its possible Han has let his success get to his head. Being 100% sure on ed then railroading somewhere else as town is not a play I trust out of chris, let alone anyone else. And the only reason I am ok with Chris doing it is people actually listen to him. As of the last time I played Han knew he didnt have the Cache... how do I make an e with a squiggly over it on an iPad....

Anyways, this is not a good plan by town Han, and town Han is good. Which is what really rose the warning sensors

This is a great plan. It's literally what Chris did last game.

Do you think Chris is a bad player? I'm just trying to learn from the better player, here.

Sure, I could spend the entire day tunneling eaed who I am convinced is Scum, I'm sure that would be a great use of my time since I'm the obv kill tonight. Maybe I could even say "hey, maybe so-and-so" is also Scum.

Or I could look in other directions. But that would be a bad plan, no?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

eaedwards6400 posted...

Just because I dont remember this level of arrogance doesnt mean I think you're scum. No where did I say that. It was simply a comment.

And as unfortunately timed it is now my wife is leaving. I'll be back around 8 because they're gonna be going to be soon.

That's ok we're moving to Reg now.

If you want to prove you're Town, you can join us :D
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

So I was absent for... a few hours at night? I've been actively posting since this morning. Much more than you, Mr. "I'm active because I just post what is apparently a meme and that's all people can remember of me".

I posted a lot more than that you must not have been paying attention.

you are tired and should go to bed
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

masterplum posted...

Thinking right now that Han is scum with Ed. Han is running the play where he suspects ed, then makes it seem like ed is the sure thing and railroads someone else, hoping that people forget about the early vanilla claim when a b8 town player inevitably says something that sounds bad but isnt inherently scummy

Seen it a million times

I'll make you a deal then - we're 100% lynching eaed today, and in the penultimate hour of the game (I'll be gone for final hour) I'll scream and shout at everyone who says anything otherwise.

That way, you can keep your paranoia and eat it too
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Red, why has your entire contribution to this game been "uh, don't be too sure, guys!"

Like, do something. You're almost Corrik level worthless here.

You were absent pretty much entirely until today. You haven't exactly been a huge active participant for the whole game here.

So I was absent for... a few hours at night? I've been actively posting since this morning. Much more than you, Mr. "I'm active because I just post what is apparently a meme and that's all people can remember of me".

Who looks off about that? Is it me? Because it certainly doesn't feel like me right there. So if you are going to come after me, you better make damn sure your post isn't full of bullshit, because I'm not in the bullshit mood.

I'm not saying you look off, I'm just saying you're not doing much.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

eaedwards6400 posted...

I don't ever remember this level arrogance from Han but I also have like 0 memory.

Then you've never played a game with me before.

Johnbobb posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Oh God, plum is actually Scum.

?

Plum is one of the best players in this player pool. He's the most improved mafia player I've ever played with. I respect his ability, because he's shown it in a number of games I've been in recently.

I'm the most obvTown player here. Him actually putting my name out there is very odd.

It is funny how he dangled the "Han is Scum" bait out there and eaed instantly went OMG YES UMG LEMME EADITUP WOW

maybe plum was just baiting with his post idk
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Oh God, plum is actually Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

masterplum posted...

Inb4 I die tonight

you won't because ur scum

red13n posted...

Thats a good load of bullshit in fact Han, what the hell. For you especially, you should be better than that.

Sorry, nothing you did earlier in the game registered to me at all, and that's all you've done recently.

So I'm still right.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Tell you what Scare, whichever one of us dies tonight can be the Chris of the game.

The other one can be the Han.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Red, why has your entire contribution to this game been "uh, don't be too sure, guys!"

Like, do something. You're almost Corrik level worthless here.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ScareChan posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

ScareChan posted...

*sits back eating Mike and Ikes*

I really did channel my inner chris

Ilike this game

omg fuck off scare

you were the fucking ben of this game

I'm the Chris here

Im chanelling MY inner chris thank you,next

You can be Blade

no

i'm not useless
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ScareChan posted...

Han part pf me feels that it really is ed, reg. battle and they have been forced into a bus off

what do you think

I don't entirely agree with you on hb tbqh

hbtq?

tqbhbattle
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

eaedwards6400 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Han, you literally make me want to die just so you can see how wrong you are. You're overconfidence is overwhelmingly annoying.

do it

Asking me to modkill is not a very town thing to say.

I'm not doing this, and trying to paint it as this is just... man

Book of Confirmed Scum
Eaed

##Unvote: Eaed
##Vote: Reg

We don't need to waste any more time on eaed.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ScareChan posted...

*sits back eating Mike and Ikes*

I really did channel my inner chris

Ilike this game

omg fuck off scare

you were the fucking ben of this game

I'm the Chris here
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg posted...

I'm not allowed to think Scare and Red are town leans because I didn't follow last game "oh"

You literally quoted something where someone used last game as reasoning for a thought process, then said 'I agree'.

I mean, I don't think it's condemning at all in your play given you literally claiming Scum with every other post, but it reads as fake since you should've been more specific if you were telling the truth.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

eaedwards6400 posted...

Han, you literally make me want to die just so you can see how wrong you are. You're overconfidence is overwhelmingly annoying.

do it
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

For the record, Death has kinda danced around the eaed thing and has poked at it, and me, in odd ways, so he's probably Scum as well.

I do like Terra's response to my post on him though :)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

Doesn't it seem weird how Reg and Eaed jumped on me as soon as they were provided another option?

Because that's literally what hombad and i did on Jedi last game.

It's obvious as all hell, you don't have to convince us.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You've been defending the fuck out of him though.

Cite literally one instance of me doing this that isn't directly related to his claim.

If you guys want to continue pressuring eaed over the original logic, sure. Meanwhile, I'm going to try to see what I can get out of a different direction so that the game doesn't totally stagnate on him for a while.

Reg posted...

while you guys do that, I personally want to see more from this guy

##Vote: MZero

Literally splintering away and ignoring... not even really providing much on at first, the top train. Acting as if it's a 'oh well while you guys waste your time with that'.

Follow that up with defending the fuck out of his claim.

Here's another gem of a few posts from earlier:

Reg posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

This play from red and Scare feels a lot different than last games where they only became super active once accused. I think both seem pretty Town.

Definitely agree with this. Moreso on Scare than Red, but not hugely so.

Reg posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Did you follow the last mafia game?

Hell no.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

eaed, I thought you were gonna be busy
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Regaro, why do you think eaed is Town?

I don't particularly think he is. I just think the claim/flavor thing is null and that Hb's handling of the situation is super sketchy.

You've been defending the fuck out of him though.

Either you think he's Town or you're looking for targets among people on him.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Regaro, why do you think eaed is Town?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg, why do you think eaed is Town?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

pichu;snake
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

eaedwards6400 posted...

I gotta be honest Sheep and I said this when we were scum together I really dont think you're as good as you think you are. And I am not going to stand here and pretend I'm good but I'm just stating how I feel.

Omg Scum literally always go "you're not as good as you think you are"

Death, Neab, can you explain why eaed's flavor is wrong so we can stick a fork in him and move on?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Also, Scare - I'm not mad at you for those games. I'm mad at people like Death and FD who mega-derped in those situations.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg is Scum because:

1. He has ignored suspicion and arguments on him, which is one of the biggest scumtells in the game.
2. He's clearly annoyed of the suspicion. Not a "it's dumb because I'm not Scum" but a "this reasoning is stupid and I shouldn't have been caught on it".

And it makes sense. Vets who come back after awhile tend to do bad at Scum. I know that happened to me in Hamiton mafia.

But yeah, since he's playing for the first time in awhile I'm satisfied killing eaed first.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ok, Reg has ignored all my suspicion on him, but was willing to reply to an unrelated question.

Reg has surpassed eaed on my suspicion confidence. Well no, eaed is Scum. So I guess they've just confirmed what we already know.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ivysaur; daisy
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

This play from red and Scare feels a lot different than last games where they only became super active once accused. I think both seem pretty Town.

Definitely agree with this. Moreso on Scare than Red, but not hugely so.

Did you follow the last mafia game?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Reg posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare just badly fake claims then dies. That's all he ever does :P

...still?

I remember this happening more than a few times when I was actively playing!

Omg Reg why are you so scum
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Also, eaed is doing the "but what about other kids doing the same thing" defense
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Scare just badly fake claims then dies. That's all he ever does :P
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic