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TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
03/01/22 4:22:04 AM
#278
Nayyyyyyyye

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TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
02/22/22 11:36:13 PM
#277
bump

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TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
02/16/22 6:30:13 PM
#275
You can do it Naye!

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TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
02/10/22 4:26:41 AM
#274
bump

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
02/03/22 7:03:40 PM
#273
Bump

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
01/28/22 3:56:19 PM
#272
Bartzyx posted...
#3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past: 1755 (+6)
#9 Super Mario World: 1389 (+10)
#14 Super Mario Bros. 3: 1235 (+19)
#16 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas: 1215 (+10)
#27 F-Zero X: 932 (+141)
#31 Snowboard Kids 2: 893 (+127)
#42 Banjo-Kazooie: 811 (+60)
#71 Bully: 607 (+406)

Aww yeah!

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
01/20/22 5:31:39 AM
#269
All eyes on Naye

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
01/14/22 7:57:50 PM
#267
Now that I'm finished, there were at least two games that I played since this started that I would have included on my list:
Hitman (2016)
GNOG

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
01/14/22 11:37:32 AM
#264
My Final Rankings
100. Unholy Heights
99. Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure
98. Backyard Baseball 2001
97. Boxing (Atari)
96. Mu Cartographer
95. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
94. Lego Island
93. Mercury Hg
92. Persona 4 Golden
91. The Gardens Between
90. Pure
89. Batman: Arkham Knight
88. Sid Meier's Pirates! (2004)
87. Aliens Go Home Run
86. Pac-Man Championship Edition DX+
85. Nine Hours Nine Persons Nine Doors
84. Monster Rancher Advance 2
83. SimTown
82. Diddy Kong Racing
81. Super Mario Odyssey
80. Red Dead Redemption
79. Mario Party
78. Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus
77. Super Mario 3D World
76. God of War II
75. Outland
74. Advance Wars: Dual Strike
73. 007 Nightfire
72. Super Solvers Mission T.H.I.N.K.
71. Grand Theft Auto III
70. WarioWare Touched
69. Monster Rancher Battle Card GB
68. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2
67. Shining Force
66. Plok
65. Monument Valley
64. The Darkness
63. The Darkness II
62. Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2
61. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!
60. NFL Street 2
59. Pikmin 2
58. Paper Mario
57. Oregon Trail II
56. Stardew Valley
55. Crash Team Racing
54. Mario Golf (N64)
53. Counter-Strike
52. Mass Effect + Mass Effect 2 + Mass Effect 3
51. Super Mario 64
50. Forza Horizon
49. WarioWare Gold
48. Max Payne 3
47. Mario Party 3
46. Far Cry 3
45. Grand Theft Auto Vice City
44. Last Window The Secret of Cape West
43. Super Mario Bros.
42. Linelight
41. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
40. Portal 2
39. Portal
38. Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves
37. Hotel Dusk Room 215
36. God of War III
35. Splashdown: Rides Gone Wild
34. Biker Mice From Mars
33. Killer7
32. Super Mario Bros. Lost Levels
31. Donkey Kong Country 2
30. Donkey Kong Country
29. Beyond Good & Evil
28. PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate
27. The Talos Principle
26. Rayman Origins + Legends
25. DiRT 2
24. Hitman: Blood Money
23. Apex Legends
22. Rocket League
21. Beavis & Butt-head (SNES)
20. AER: Memories of Old
19. Project Gotham Racing 2
18. Banjo-Kazooie
17. The Saboteur
16. Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition
15. Ori and the Will of the Wisps
14. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
13. Halo 2
12. Halo 4
11. Far Cry 2
10. Peggle
9. Super Mario Bros. 3
8. Super Mario World
7. Forza Horizon 2
6. Sly 2: Band of Thieves
5. MVP Baseball 2005
4. Bully
3. Snowboard Kids 2
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
1. F-Zero X

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
01/14/22 11:32:13 AM
#263
1. F-Zero X (N64, 1998)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/9/1/AAN44mAACzln.jpg

This being my #1 was the worst-kept secret on my list. While everyone probably figured that Snowboard Kids 2, Bully, and MVP Baseball 2005 would rank near the top of my list, everyone who has known me for a long time had to have expected this as my #1. Im actually going to talk about the game this time I swear, but oh geez, where do I even begin?

I guess talking about actual driving is a good place. With this being in the era where 3D gaming was a work-in-progress, there were plenty of growing pains in the development phase for virtually every game. Released roughly two years after the N64 hit the shelves, F-Zero X had already seemingly mastered the hardware. This game is smooth as silk. It ran at 60 FPS with 30 vehicles on the track, which had to have been unprecedented. It looks and feels gorgeous in motion. Something that I find underrated about the game is camera positioning. They always have it at the right angle so that you can tell where the track is heading to prevent cheap deaths while maintaining a high sense of speed.

I had played the original F-Zero prior to this, and what stood out to me with that game was the Mode 7 graphics. I had played many racing games that utilized it (F-Zero, Al Unser Jr.s Road to the Top, Street Racer, and Super Mario Kart) and it really made the tracks and backgrounds stand out. F-Zero X seemed to take inspiration from those games by having backgrounds be thematically congruent with the planet/track they were on but sparsely detailed in a way that really drives home the sense of scale and sheer height that these tracks reach.

The game has standard racing modes like cups and vs races, but they introduced a peculiar mode called Death Race. It is a short, basic course where your goal is to destroy the other 29 vehicles as quickly as possible. My best time was 59 seconds, and I didnt want to give this away in my Snowboard Kids 2 writeup, but I play this at least once a year as part of the annual N64 racing game marathon. I do Death Race as a warm up, and Im no longer the 10-ish year-old boy who was a stud at this game, but it feels great to still be able to get sub-90 second marks. Death Race is also a neat way to test out other vehicles and even mess with their top speed/acceleration slider. Vehicles are graded on three things (body, boost, and grip), and they all play wildly different. I personally believe the game to be very unbalanced with grip being king (just try using Night Thunder), so this is a cool way to test out your and each vehicle's strengths and weaknesses.

The first four cups contain a total of 24 designed tracks. They have a fifth cup called X-Cup though that was interesting now and definitely for its time for being entirely composed of procedurally generated tracks. The procedural generation draws from a more basic set of components, so the vast majority of the time you will be racing on relatively basic tracks. Its still very neat to always be on your toes as you go through a first lap not knowing what to expect. However, and this is very rare, you will come across a track that has some ridiculous segment that wipes out most or all of the other racers (and to be honest probably you too at first). I dubbed these death tracks, and I cherished each time I was lucky to come across one. The game has a life system, and if you fall off the track or explode because your vehicle's body took too much damage, you would get as many retries as lives remaining. Normally the first time I would come across such a course, I would die from obviously not knowing the death trap that awaits me, and I would use a retry. I would often risk it and die on purpose just to experience that track because in addition to these death tracks being so rare, I would probably never get to race on this particular track ever again. The way the on-screen display is set up shows the top six racers and their headshots on the left. Theres something very cool about there not being enough racers to fill all the spots, and even better when there is no other headshot than your own. I wish there was a way to save a track or have some agency on what kind of tracks show up, but I will accept these existing at all.

This is a very bizarre reason for why a game is my favorite of all-time, but I love the way the AI is set up. I have always been fascinated by AI in racing games. I have mentioned this several times over my time here but not in this topic series since the game wasnt ranked, but Super Mario Kart had a fixed AI system based on the character you chose, and I often took it upon myself to disrupt it the best I could. F-Zero X has a deeper system that I had to discover on my own.

At the beginning of each cup, you will see two characters in front of yours (you begin in the rear, 30th place). Those will be your rivals. While they have some peculiar variance that I wont get into, they should largely follow your lead. If you bring up the rear, they will stay back with you. If you always go for the win (which describes everyone who isnt me), then they will be breathing down your neck. If you awkwardly sit in the middle, well, they usually stick near you. So independent of the three wild cards of you and your rivals, you have numerous tiers of other characters that are randomly generated each cup. The characters will almost always stick to placements within those tiers. Now within each of the four cups with fixed tracks are two certain tracks where they mostly flip those tiers. The highest two tiers are actually impervious to the change, but all the others perform the opposite as normal. Sometimes there were unpredictable wrinkles like when a character crashed the previous race. Would they fall into their tier for the next race, or would they disregard the tier system and place among the second tier before reverting back to their normal tier the following race? Im going to stop going into details there because Im sure that this is something that is hard to follow, but let me assure you I found this totally riveting.

I basically discovered this through intensively looking over the post-race point distribution and standing updates. Once I had a great grasp of the situation, my imagination ran wild. I would come up with narratives for each character during cups based on the tiers they were assigned. Sometimes, I would even create teams prior to starting the cup by literally using a hat and pieces of paper. I would even create stories for these made up teams. What would normally be a 20 minute cup I could extend to more than an hour as I could be so enveloped with my imagination.

In addition to its merits as a top-tier racing game, the games distinctive AI system had such an unparalleled impact on me that nothing may ever top F-Zero X for me in spite of the explosion of creativity and overall quality gaming has seen since then.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
01/14/22 8:11:35 AM
#261
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES, 1991)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/7/AAN44mAACzj1.jpg

I know that I mentioned this in at least the Boxing writeup, if not more, but my parents were already casual gamers by the first time that I played a video game. My mom owned an Atari 2600, with it more than a dozen games, including Space Invaders that she paid $90 for in the early 80s. The first video games that I ever received were from my uncle when he gave me a SNES in 1993. It was bundled with Super Mario All-Stars and he also gave me ALttP. Thats four of my Top 50 games there, so that basically will never be topped. Unlike the Super Mario games, my parents got involved with Link to the Past.

There were three save files, so I occupied one, my sister another, and then my parents shared one. Now I will preface this by saying my sister and parents never beat it, and I didnt until the late 90s or early 00s, but playing ALttP was basically a family affair. We would sit and watch someone play and pay close attention as to glean any useful info/tips. My dad is a talented artist, and he made this beautiful map of Hyrule and the Dark World, color and all, that doubled as a bit of a legend as he included info on where to find major items and such. I still have it, but I dont feel like going through the tub of SNES stuff, so you have to take my word for it. I distinctly remember that there was one item that was never included in the map because none of us found it (until I did around the time I actually beat it), and that was the Cane of Byrna.

Part of the reason why we never beat it/spent so much time together on it was actually because our cartridge was slightly defective, for lack of a better word. Unlike my other SNES games, it had a tendency to lose all save files. It was obviously a bummer when that would happen, but with it being so high here, I was obviously glad to do it all over again. There is probably no game that I have started more files for than this. Were talking dozens upon dozens of times (which also includes the less problematic ports that I have bought/played over time). One thing about the save files though is that the vast majority of games that I played dont have a save file name feature, the LoZ series is the only one that I stick to the same formula. It was my dads idea that I name my character after me as well as the age I was when I started. I have done this each and every time, and with me still not getting around to playing Breath of the Wild despite owning it for nearly four years, I will make sure to continue the tradition.

I should probably talk about the game at least a smidge? Of the many Atari games of my parents that I played was Adventure. It was probably the most unique experience of all their Atari games, and having not played an NES to realize the origins of LoZ were clearly inspired by it, I was blown away by virtually everything ALttP offered. Two large explorable worlds chock-full of secrets, a bevy of cool items and weapons, and amazing dungeons full of engaging, sometimes layered puzzles and excellent boss fights. The whole package was so astounding and became the basis (dungeons, bosses, world) that I judged all Zelda games on.

In that regard, it might be a shame that I began with ALttP, because it completely blows the rest of the series out of the water. While I considered Four Swords Adventures and Links Awakening, this is the only game from the series on my list. In a forgettable ranking topic of Nintendo series that I did many years ago, The Legend of Zelda I want to say placed around 15th, so even with my #2 game of all-time, that goes to show you how I have largely felt about the rest of the series (3D games bring it down).

If theres a single video game that Ive played that is close to flawless, it might be this. This was just a masterpiece, and I wont hear anything to the contrary.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
01/06/22 2:43:07 PM
#258
Just down to Naye and myself

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
12/31/21 12:39:37 AM
#255
3. Snowboard Kids 2 (N64, 1999)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/0/AAN44mAACwdc.jpg

Though many of the games I got for Christmas in 98 along with my N64 have appeared on this list, Snowboard Kids was the one I coveted the most and the main reason I asked for an N64 for Christmas in the first place. Racing had already been established as my favorite genre by that point with the likes of Al Unsers Race to the Top, Biker Mice From Mars, and Super Mario Kart being among my favorite games at that point in my life. Other than Uniracers though, pretty much every racing game that I played up to that point used one of your typical motorized vehicles. I didnt know much about snowboarding at this point in my life, so I just thought of it as something people did tricks with or leisurely go down a mountain slope with. It never crossed my mind that you could make a bona fide racing game out of it.

From scouring over the box art, to reading the manual with some silly comic panel explanations, to hitting the title screen with the goofy ass characters with the huge noses on display, I was raring to go before finally hitting the slopes on Rookie Mountain. I cant even imagine what a first time gamer would feel upon playing a superb racing game now like a Forza Horizon title, but man I felt like I was playing one of the greatest things ever. It is a little stiff and try as you might, you will almost never be able to do a flip from the ground without some incoming elevation assistance, but it was still a blast going down slopes from mountains, plains, deserts, and even an amusement park. They incorporated a tool system with weapons (called shots and received from red boxes) and items (blue boxes) that cost money to receive from successfully landing tricks or finding coins lying around. If you dont have enough money, then hitting a box will be like hitting a brick wall. Honestly, I would prefer that items cost nothing or they hiked the prices up a bit because you will be swimming in cash most of the time, or at least I never had issues with money.

One of the things that I loved and found out by accident was basically forcing a high-stakes duel. Normally, every race has four people. Now, I dont remember exactly how I came to discover this, but what you do is you select the speed board in the pre-race menu. Not all courses are created equal in this scenario, but I always loved doing it in Grass Valley. At the start of the race, basically twist your character around, and because of the shape of the speed board, the game thinks you are going in reverse even while moving forward. Two of the three opponents will race normally, but the rubber banding in this game will cause the last place opponent to slow down considerably. You might not have the patience for this, but you race with the board in reverse until the first two opponents finish all laps. The game conveniently has a progress bar with character heads on it. If it doesnt move for many seconds and doesnt appear at the top of the progress bar (indicating it started a new lap), then you know they are finished.

When they finish, you twist your board into the proper stance, and then race for 3rd place. Upon meeting up with that final opponent who lagged behind, then the rubber banding kicks in again, and they will be hot on your trail for a pretty intense duel for effectively one lap. Its not for everyone of course, but I like doing that almost as much as standard racing. And all this talk is for a game that ultimately I did not include on my list. Had the sequel never existed, Im certain it would have, but 2 is simply an improvement upon the first in nearly every meaningful way.

I know that I brought this up in other writeups, but I didnt have the internet until like 2001, and the only magazine that I remember subscribing to was Ranger Rick. Some of my friends played video games, but not like I did, so word of mouth wasnt a big presence in my life. Discovering games basically came down to me browsing behind the glass at a place like Meijer or Target or seeing what Blockbuster had in. Some time in 1999, I just happened to be in a store, I want to say it might have been Walmart, when I went down the video game aisle and had my mind blown. Staring me right in the face was this blue box art full of familiar characters with the title Snowboard Kids 2 sprawled across the top. That might be my favorite video game memory at a store, the pure astonishment and jubilation. I dont know what the MSRP of the game was, but Walmart had it for $30, and there was absolutely no way I wasnt going to get it on the spot.

Because I liked to torture myself, I read the manual first, showing additional characters and more humorous comic panels. My main in the original was Jam, so I grabbed him again and headed to Sunny Mountain, and wow. The game apparently came out barely a year after the first one, and you would think it would have been closer to five. You will immediately notice just how smooth riding is, and you can do tricks basically whenever you want and string together multiple tricks on a jump. They have a lot more tools (useful ones at that) from boxes. I liked the originals music, but 2s has routinely been in my Top 10 VGM OSTs for two decades now. While your preference regarding course design may vary (I do think that the original has the better top to bottom set), they are wackier (haunted house, outer space, and a jungle the most out there choices) and more detailed with elevation, obstacles, split paths, and shortcuts. They must have really pushed the N64 to the limit (or lacked experience) apparently because multiplayer is a bit disappointing because like many other games, they had to make sacrifices, such as reducing the framerate.

Every year, I dedicate one day between Christmas and New Years Day to spend 4-6 hours playing a marathon of N64 racing games. There are four permanent members and one rotational member, but I always begin with Snowboard Kids on Sunset Rock and end with Snowboard Kids 2 on Lindas Castle. I always said that if I ever won the lottery, the first luxury purchase I would make is buy the Snowboard Kids IP and find a way to get some remakes of them and make sequels. I never play the lottery, but wish me luck every day anyway!

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
12/24/21 11:12:00 PM
#252
4. Bully (PS2, 2006)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/3/AAN44mAACvNz.jpg

The 6th and final Rockstar game on my list, Bully has all the hallmarks of the excellent Rockstar games before and after it but its unique approach, structure, and mechanics make it the most fun of them all.

As a student at Bullworth Academy, you actually have a class schedule where you participate in surprisingly fun themed mini-games like trying to create as many words as you can with a fixed list of letters for English and playing dodgeball for Gym. Its limited to two per day, but because theres tangible benefits to succeeding in class and the game giving me a strong desire to explore campus, the town, and complete missions, it was an effective system to create the internal dilemma that they were clearly going for.

Part of the reason why I struggled to be a good student is because I absolutely adored the weapon selection from the game. All the stereotypical kid stuff, whether or not these were actually common prank objects outside of fiction, are there, including stink bombs, itching powder, marbles, and eggs. While its actually impossible to not play into the titular role given mission objectives, you do have full control over how you behave outside of missions, and its impossible not to give into the temptation to use your items on some innocent sap. Their reactions/animations for starters can be downright hilarious. The itching powder is probably my favorite because your target moves fast then slows down and hops as it takes effect. Its also funny seeing what the flight or fight response will turn out to be, especially if they choose to fight because theres something funny about seeing a random adult in town getting up after having them fall over marbles and try to beat you up.

I always loved this game, but I came to appreciate it more after college because there are some parallels to this game and my observations in college. Like any contemporary-ish Rockstar game, theres a lot of social and adjacent commentary. Part of it in this game revolves around the type of image that Bullworth Academy insists it is, blatantly ignoring the surrounding area with its problematic and decaying society, of whom the faculty and student body is derived from. Now I loved my college and everyone I met, but just outside of its insulated, idyllic campus were some truly economically troubled neighborhoods with their fair share of interesting characters I encountered along the way. It gave new meaning to what I witnessed in Bully, and while it was always neck-and-neck with San Andreas, the few times that I replayed it since college ultimately gave it the edge.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
12/23/21 2:28:14 AM
#251
still planning to make an effort...

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
12/15/21 4:14:56 AM
#250
Going to make a real effort to finish this before end of the year

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
12/01/21 3:14:36 AM
#248
bump

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/22/21 11:19:26 PM
#242
5. MVP Baseball 2005 (Xbox, 2005)


Ever since the MLB video game license went exclusive, you just didnt see many baseball games after that. The Super Mega Baseball series has probably been the best and most prominent unlicensed of the sport, but other than that, its pretty much been all MLB The Show. I have played a handful of those games over the past decade and a half, and they have all been great in general and scratching that modern baseball itch, but MVP Baseball 2005 still is and likely will always be my favorite baseball game.

Its accessible (I hate it when sports games that force you to use stick over button controls), has effective pitching and hitting systems (love the batters eye in particular), and it is equally fun to play and sim/manage a franchise. I actually used to play EVERY game from the franchise in dynasty mode. That meant over 500 major and minor league games. That became a bit much, so when I started just playing MLB games and semi-micro-managing the minor league teams, everything just clicked for me, and I could be lost in the playing/sim cycle for hours upon hours.

I have probably played north of 1000 hours into the game, including running many dynasty leagues, local play with my friends, online leagues I randomly found on the internet, and just pick-up online games. Later on when I was in college, I joined B8BL when Alec used this game, and I won the league that year, so it was pretty cool that all of my experience in the game led to that (please dont point out that I actually entered the postseason with a losing record lol). All of it was a total blast that I wish could be recaptured in another sports game, but thats probably hard to do now that I am no longer a kid. Now, if only I can forget the time I lost an online game against someone using a AAA team.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/22/21 10:51:37 PM
#241
6. Sly 2: Band of Thieves (PS2, 2004)


When I first got a PS2 back in 2003, Sly Cooper and the Thievieus Raccoonus was one of a half dozen or so games that I got with my PS2. I had been a fan of Sucker Punchers Rocket: Robot on Wheels and how well they handled platforming, so I was looking forward to their next title. Virtually a pure stealth/platformer, Sly 1 exceeded my already high expectations, and it landed on my list. The three sequels took the series in a new direction while maintaining the excellent platforming. The third game also landed on my list, but my favorite has always been 2.

Instead of rehashing what I presumably talked about Honor Among Thieves because the games are similar, I just want to say that I was constantly surprised with its gameplay, and subsequently its narrative and level design, and how impeccably they seemed to pull it all off. Tossing out new ideas left and right with aplomb and expecting things to unfold one way only to swerve and go in a different, better direction. One of my favorite minor things was how they presented heist planning and how it gave deeper meaning to all the mission markers opened up as a result.

If I were to make a list of games that were most impressive to me at the time I played it, Sly 2 would be near the top of that list as I was in middle school then. Im not implying that each of my subsequent replays, the last being about a decade ago with the remastered trilogy, made me feel less about the game. As someone who tends to go into games mostly blind and even with high expectations as I did with this game coming off of the first, I managed to be impressed at nearly every turn. Kid or not, that isnt easy to pull off, and it is part of why I will get every game Sucker Punch makes.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/22/21 10:49:51 PM
#240
7. Forza Horizon 2 (Xbox One, 2014)


While 2 lacks the wide openness of the original, FH2 is a clear upgrade in basically every meaningful area. I just want to discuss a singular aspect though, and that is the franchises famous Drivatars.

Bringing over Forza Motorsports Drivatars was an excellent move. Drivatars are not like your typical programmed AI, Drivatars are based around behavior learning. Typically, AI in racing games will behave similarly in terms of areas such as turning and driving lines, but with drivatars, they use the behavior of real players/testers/developers. I dont want or need to go into further details, but its really neat and makes for a more dynamic experience. If any of your friends previously played an event that you are racing, at least one of them will show up with their drivatar. Because I was always hellbent on beating any of my friends lap/course records on every event, it was such a refreshing and different experience racing while simultaneously scouting out how they raced to accomplish my goal.

This extended to outside of events too where among the dozens or hundreds of random people driving around France and Italy, your friends Drivatars will also be driving around doing nothing in particular. One time, I was wracking up a huge point total while tearing up the countryside while seemingly decimating ecosystems when out of nowhere, ICON came in and t-boned me in the grass far away from a road to wipe away what I had in my mind was a six-figure total. I couldnt help but laugh at the ludicrosity of the situation. Im not mad, and Im glad that the Drivatars make such a thing possible.

Because of my personal policy of only including games that I have beaten, this is the highest Forza Horizon game on my list, otherwise 3 would have definitely made it and maybe 4. Now that 5 just came out, it looks like I have some catching up to do.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
11/21/21 7:13:01 PM
#257
Wow, this was going on for nine months!? I wish that my late season surge didn't end in such a whimper, but it was fun and congrats on the championship!

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
11/21/21 3:13:50 PM
#251
bump

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/21/21 12:05:29 AM
#237
8. Super Mario World (SNES, 1990)


In the end though, the highest of the nine Super Mario games on my list is Super Mario World. SMW took the series to new artistic heights, introduced what is still the best version of Yoshi, and crafted a game that favored secrets and forging your own path. It might not have quite the sense of scale or wonder that SMB3 had, but SMW is always my first choice if I want to just to pick up an old title from the series.

I knew there were a lot of secret exits, but according to multiple sources one third of the levels (24 of 72) contain secret exits. These will lead to switches, warp stars, and new paths around the world. Now that I am a lot older and have gone through the game numerous times, I can pretty much pick and choose the path that I desire, but back when I was a little kid, I didnt have that kind of luxury. I loved the excitement and sense of mystery of realizing that there could be a secret exit not knowing what was on the other side or even unexpectedly finding out that I just found a secret exit. Sometimes the map would make it obvious that there had to be a secret exit there (sometimes it would seem obvious but the secret exit was actually on a different level), and I would go back to that level and try and figure out what. The game had a nice feature where you could exit the level for one youve already beaten, so the risk was small.

One of the coolest things about the game is that two of the worlds, Vanilla Dome and Twin Bridges, you will virtually go through a completely different set of levels for each depending on the exit you take in the first level of Vanilla Dome. While not exactly a little thing, I have come to appreciate a lot about games from the major games from my childhood and come away being even more fond of them after looking at them from different angles from the mindset of an adult. This wont be the last game on my list where that is a major factor, but Im glad that I still do this with games from my teenage and young adult life.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/21/21 12:03:24 AM
#236
9. Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES, 1988)


Putting Super Mario Bros. 2 aside given its true origins, level design complexity of SMB3 was astounding for its era. I dont need to hash out the same things I have said for the previous half a dozen or so Super Mario games on my list, but needless to say, this was the crowning achievement for the video games of the 80s.

Worlds 3-5 stack up with some of the series. I feel like 5 is an overlooked world relative to others in the game in terms of which ones I have seen in discussions over my time here, but 5 has always been my favorite.

Im not sure how other games implemented it, but I felt that this was one of the best versions of co-op at the time. Not only were there systems in place for light-hearted competition, but making it so that if one player beat a level the other did not helped make the game more accessible and have more fruitful and fluid sessions. This is something that I really wouldnt think about at the time but came to appreciate as I got older and reflected on gaming with my sister and friends.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/21/21 12:01:31 AM
#235
10. Peggle (PC, 2007)


Every so often, theres a topic here asking for recommendations for a game for a non-gamer to try out. I have no idea if any current platform (I would have to assume it is on mobile though) sells Peggle, but it is always the game I mention. Now, really I mean, and for this ranking as well, all Peggle games, but for the sake of just having one game, I am highlighting the original.

The game features dozens of levels featuring pegs of all shapes and sizes placed to make certain shapes or designs. You are given 10 balls to start, and your task is to clear all the orange pegs, which are in random, but fixed positions. You have a character ability that can be triggered by hitting one of two green pegs that ,like the orange, are random but fixed once the game starts. There is also a purple peg that changes each time you launch a ball that is worth extra points. You can get extra balls by getting enough points on a single ball launch or by having your ball land in a moving hole at the bottom of the screen.

The game is incredibly simple but just obscenely fun. The audio design to elicit immediate positive reinforcement is phenomenal. From a guitar riff when you slide your ball down a line of pegs to the computerized beep from getting a lucky bounce to the choir note of getting a free ball, there are ample opportunities to trigger a sound effect, and I dont know, they just compel me to further improve myself to hear more of it.

Win or lose though, Im having a blast either way, and when I do fail, you can bet that I chuckled at my whiffs or near misses along the way. EA needs to allow PopCap to make more Peggle games, but they seem to be almost exclusively a Plants vs Zombies studio now.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/17/21 6:18:26 AM
#232
bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
11/13/21 10:47:56 PM
#447
New topic
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79758366
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
11/10/21 2:41:07 AM
#231
bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
11/07/21 11:40:54 AM
#247
From my usual Super Mega Baseball team being sniped before I could pick them, to being 4-6 and practically dead in the water, to being the Mega Division rep in the World Series. What a season (so far)!
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
11/07/21 3:40:58 AM
#445
Denver Broncos
Kansas City Chiefs - Ranlom
Oakland Raiders - Bloodychess

Portland Express

Buffalo Bills - stevr
Miami Dolphins
New England Patriots - Jukkie
New York Jets - Abacus


Baltimore Ravens
Cincinnati Bengals
Mexico City Browns - VI
Pittsburgh Steelers - Shattered


Columbus Pioneers
Indianapolis Colts - mccheyne
Jacksonville Jaguars - Sultan
Tennessee Titans - Socko


San Francisco 49ers - Scare
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Toronto Wildcats - prof

Dallas Cowboys
Las Vegas Pumpkins - Pennywise
New York Giants - Eddv
Washington - Wiz


Chicago Bears - Stan
Detroit Lions - Nee

Green Bay Packers - Tangicide
Minnesota Vikings

Atlanta Falcons - MMX
Carolina Panthers - Emerald
San Juan Orcas - KCF
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chris

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
11/03/21 5:22:06 PM
#444
S16 will begin on Saturday, November 13th, so for those who haven't done so already, you have until the 12th to inform me of your plans. I hope to send a final PM in the coming days, and if need be, I might ping anyone that has yet to respond.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
11/01/21 7:11:29 PM
#236
Nee vs Emerald
Chris vs KCF

I'm sure Chris wants his revenge for the B8BL4 World Series, if he still remembers that (sorry if you repressed that memory!).
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
10/30/21 9:06:27 PM
#233
Man, I see that only five teams did not have their names changed.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
10/29/21 5:11:11 AM
#443
bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
10/29/21 12:38:55 AM
#229
Here are some hints of what's left using game genres:
- 3 racing
- 2 platformers
- 2 action-adventures
- 1 sports
- 1 arcade/puzzle?
- 1 little bit of everything to be honest
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
10/29/21 12:33:37 AM
#228
I am now worthy of posting here. Here is a recap of my rankings:

100. Unholy Heights
99. Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure
98. Backyard Baseball 2001
97. Boxing (Atari)
96. Mu Cartographer
95. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
94. Lego Island
93. Mercury Hg
92. Persona 4 Golden
91. The Gardens Between
90. Pure
89. Batman: Arkham Knight
88. Sid Meier's Pirates! (2004)
87. Aliens Go Home Run
86. Pac-Man Championship Edition DX+
85. Nine Hours Nine Persons Nine Doors
84. Monster Rancher Advance 2
83. SimTown
82. Diddy Kong Racing
81. Super Mario Odyssey
80. Red Dead Redemption
79. Mario Party
78. Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus
77. Super Mario 3D World
76. God of War II
75. Outland
74. Advance Wars: Dual Strike
73. 007 Nightfire
72. Super Solvers Mission T.H.I.N.K.
71. Grand Theft Auto III
70. WarioWare Touched
69. Monster Rancher Battle Card GB
68. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2
67. Shining Force
66. Plok
65. Monument Valley
64. The Darkness
63. The Darkness II
62. Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2
61. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!
60. NFL Street 2
59. Pikmin 2
58. Paper Mario
57. Oregon Trail II
56. Stardew Valley
55. Crash Team Racing
54. Mario Golf (N64)
53. Counter-Strike
52. Mass Effect + Mass Effect 2 + Mass Effect 3
51. Super Mario 64
50. Forza Horizon
49. WarioWare Gold
48. Max Payne 3
47. Mario Party 3
46. Far Cry 3
45. Grand Theft Auto Vice City
44. Last Window The Secret of Cape West
43. Super Mario Bros.
42. Linelight
41. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
40. Portal 2
39. Portal
38. Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves
37. Hotel Dusk Room 215
36. God of War III
35. Splashdown: Rides Gone Wild
34. Biker Mice From Mars
33. Killer7
32. Super Mario Bros. Lost Levels
31. DKC 2
30. DKC
29. Beyond Good & Evil
28. PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate
27. The Talos Principle
26. Rayman Origins + Legends
25. DiRT 2
24. Hitman: Blood Money
23. Apex Legends
22. Rocket League
21. Beavis & Butt-head (SNES)
20. AER: Memories of Old
19. PGR 2
18. Banjo-Kazooie
17. The Saboteur
16. Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition
15. Ori and the Will of the Wisps
14. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
13. Halo 2
12. Halo 4
11. Far Cry 2
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
10/24/21 5:22:08 PM
#230
I do feel a little bad that the Blowfish and their absurd run differential will be watching the playoffs from home
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
10/19/21 1:17:51 AM
#223
bumps
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
10/19/21 1:16:41 AM
#437
I will do a second round of reminder PMs this week probably
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
10/17/21 3:31:06 PM
#227
I'm glad that my pitching expertise showed up in the second half of the season
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
10/13/21 11:43:40 PM
#225
With that result, my last game basically boils down to:
- Win and I'm in
- Lose and I'm out
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
10/13/21 3:17:57 PM
#436
bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
10/12/21 8:55:24 PM
#221
bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicSuper Mega Baseball sim league sign up
KCF0107
10/07/21 10:13:08 PM
#220
Still alive, but I clearly won't be getting in if it comes to run differential tiebreaker
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
10/06/21 1:25:10 AM
#435
Denver Broncos
Kansas City Chiefs - Ranlom
Oakland Raiders - Bloodychess

Portland Express

Buffalo Bills - stevr
Miami Dolphins
New England Patriots - Jukkie
New York Jets - Abacus


Baltimore Ravens
Cincinnati Bengals
Mexico City Browns - VI
Pittsburgh Steelers - Shattered


Columbus Pioneers
Indianapolis Colts - mccheyne
Jacksonville Jaguars - Sultan
Tennessee Titans - Socko


San Francisco 49ers - Scare
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Toronto Wildcats - prof

Dallas Cowboys
Las Vegas Pumpkins - Pennywise
New York Giants - Eddv

Washington - Wiz

Chicago Bears - Stan
Detroit Lions - Nee
Green Bay Packers - Tangicide

Minnesota Vikings

Atlanta Falcons - MMX
Carolina Panthers - Emerald
San Juan Orcas - KCF
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chris

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
10/04/21 2:01:09 PM
#220
bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
09/29/21 4:33:14 PM
#430
I don't know if that's a serious question or not, but changing of team ownership is only available at one point in the game, and that's not when it is.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
09/29/21 4:27:49 PM
#428
Denver Broncos
Kansas City Chiefs - Ranlom
Oakland Raiders - Bloodychess

Portland Express

Buffalo Bills - stevr
Miami Dolphins
New England Patriots - Jukkie
New York Jets - Abacus


Baltimore Ravens
Cincinnati Bengals
Mexico City Browns - VI
Pittsburgh Steelers - Shattered


Columbus Pioneers
Indianapolis Colts - mccheyne
Jacksonville Jaguars - Sultan
Tennessee Titans - Socko


San Francisco 49ers - Scare
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Toronto Wildcats - prof

Dallas Cowboys
Las Vegas Pumpkins - Pennywise
New York Giants - Eddv
Washington - Wiz


Chicago Bears - Stan
Detroit Lions - Nee
Green Bay Packers - Tangicide

Minnesota Vikings

Atlanta Falcons - MMX
Carolina Panthers - Emerald
San Juan Orcas - KCF
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chris


I will start sending out reminder PMs maybe tonight and possibly even the official signup topic
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: Regular Season
KCF0107
09/27/21 3:19:30 AM
#421
Denver Broncos
Kansas City Chiefs - Ranlom
Oakland Raiders - Bloodychess

Portland Express

Buffalo Bills - stevr
Miami Dolphins
New England Patriots - Jukkie
New York Jets - Abacus


Baltimore Ravens
Cincinnati Bengals - Muffinz
Mexico City Browns - VI

Pittsburgh Steelers - Shattered

Columbus Pioneers
Indianapolis Colts - mccheyne
Jacksonville Jaguars - Sultan
Tennessee Titans - Socko


San Francisco 49ers - Scare
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Toronto Wildcats - prof

Dallas Cowboys
Las Vegas Pumpkins - Pennywise
New York Giants - Eddv
Washington - Wiz


Chicago Bears - Stan
Detroit Lions - Nee
Green Bay Packers - Tangicide

Minnesota Vikings

Atlanta Falcons - MMX
Carolina Panthers - Emerald

San Juan Orcas - KCF
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chris

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
TopicBoard 8 #sports Discord Ranks Their Top 100 Video Games Finale: THE TOP 10
KCF0107
09/27/21 3:08:00 AM
#219
bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
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