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MZero posted...

I kind of want Red lynched just because he's being a pompous jerk for some reason

For some reason oh gee i fucking wonder.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Yeah, I didn't like your attitude.

But at least now I don't think Peaf is your scummate!

It wasn't fucking attitude, it was information you yourself posted.

Which you decided to blow off instead of go "oh wait actually I'm wrong i should actually prepare for what this means:.

Kirby321 posted...

And because MI is a bad player, I feel like lynching a better player. Because I'm feeling spicy today.

This is so fucking dumb.

Stop trying to will people scum for no reason.

"I'm lynching you for being a better player" when everything we've seen from scum makes no fucking sense.

I could see it if there was some master plan to save knightz or wallz but you've got no scuk equity on my part there. The night kills have been fucking insanity.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Gee it's almost like I don't know things for sure and am trying to look at both sides to figure out the truth, go figure

I gave you where your PoE was wrong and you've basically blown me off.

Meow1000 posted...

I don't like how Red went from agreeing with me that Ben was scum to trying to coax Peaf into lynching me early in the day.

Are we really going to ignore context of ben claiming bp at the time.

PunishedBen posted...

I just ran with what others suggested, but if there's 3 or more it doesn't change the things I have stated. I have not been capping myself at 2 in these reasonings

Yeah well I'm in a position where i know your logic reveals only 1 scum if accurate.

So i have to move you beyond that in thinking.

PunishedBen posted...

Well do you think the last two scum are exactly Peaf and MI?

Honestly, I'm not quite sure why we've so readily gotten to last two scum.

Someone in power is almost certainly lying.

And if you need clarification to my question.

You have basically stated to me you think there is 1 scum in peaf and MI.

So where are you going from there?

PunishedBen posted...

And if either Red or MI are scum I think Peaf is town. Thats the important part for me

So where do you think the rest of scum are located?

PeaceFrog posted...

But like others have said, scum needs a long shot at that point. It's a wrong conclusion but at least he's coming up with something, red. Relax.

Me relax when someone is trying to kill me based on something blatantly wrong.

No fuck that.

Also I have to drop out to work soon if you all are seriously going to entertain peaf/red scumteam i dont know what the fuck to do to fix any of you.

So I'm hoping some of you will actually show up and talk sense because arguing nonsense is fucking painful.

Simple answer is maybe MI is just scum but i actually fucking need help and opinions from the rest of you and if somehow town actually thinks me and peaf are aligned i dont know what the fuck to do because it means you all went full insanity brained.

MI if you are town this is seriously embarrassing.

TotallyNotMI posted...

He still gives logic for why we should lynch Corrik instead, but going from 'I'd shoot him peaf right now if I could' to 'I'm not voting peaf even when he's tied with Corrik, let's lynch Corrik instead' doesn't feel like this INCONCIEVABLE PROOF that peaf/red can't possibly be scum together

Yes please tell us the master plan of bussing the fuck out of each other as your supposed final scumteam.

Holy fuck.

Like if you think i was somehow trying to not vote corrik to look town buddy like, seriously. No.

Just no.

TotallyNotMI posted...

then later say you're still fine with corrik being the lynch and don't vote

Oh no i didn't vote on a set lynch with igcd trying to hammer how fucking tragic.

When you get to a poe and your only suspevts make a scumteam that makes no sense.

Guess what?

Your scumteam is fucking borked and your trying to throw the fucking game(or are the scum).

PunishedBen posted...

I'll take your explanation for what was going on because apparently i need educated

Peaf has spent two days tunnel visioning the fuck out of me.

If you really think we're aligned after that and this is some masterclass scum theater with a high wire act you think way too fucking conspiracy brain.

Thats not a play that is high effort its just fucking suicide.

Especially if by this logic you are buying every power on the board.

Because with the kills that went on the supposed scumteam at that point is not playing to win.

Its a fucking joke POE.

PunishedBen posted...

If you both are scum, you cant exactly support each other. Everyone's POE was narrowed down to Peaf/Red/MI at the start of day 3

Do you want to amend this to what was actually going on or are we sticking to insincere or naive as fuck shit.

Like if anyone wants to stand by red/peaf scumteam please do so i can laugh at you for eternity.

And dont think i wont. I still poke at chris for disney mafia.

(If you guys actually think we're a scumteam holy fucking shit i give up. But not actually give up just never expect me to have an ounce of faith in your mafia play again).

Can someone with a little patience explain to MI why me and peaf are not a final scumteam.

Like holy fuck i am out of patience.

If you want to plead insanity please tell me what the fuck red and peaf are doing committing fucking suicide. Please go on.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I honestly have no idea what facts and evidence you're supposed showing to prove I'm wrong. I iso'd you in this topic and still don't understand what you're trying to say.

Your poe has me/ben/peaf.

Thinking peaf and i are scum together is fucking insanity.

You think ben is 3p and not mafia.

That leaves a poe that is debunked.

PunishedBen posted...

n. What's the alternative? That he's evil Pierce who thought he could get away with saying there's no evil Pierce in community? That we're both scum?

These are in fact on the table, yes.

Hell if i was in your position as town I'd be paranoid that he had access to your chats somehow with a flavor mistake that glaring and on the nose.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I think what I think. Just saying I'm wrong isn't going to change my thoughts.

You are wrong based on your own fucking thoughts.

Basically, you being wrong is not some opinion i am throwing your way.

Its literal fact based on your own beliefs.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I think what I think. Just saying I'm wrong isn't going to change my thoughts.

I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm showing the fucking evidence that you are wrong by your own logic.

Its not me saying you are wrong.

It is me literally pointing out the fsct you are wrong.

So at the very least fucking re-evaluate. You dont have a poe to stand by atm.

PunishedBen posted...

MI reminded us that we're both wrong. The fact FD was wrong about this means he did the same exact thing as me. And it means he certainly not evil Pierce, otherwise he wouldn't have pretended evil Peirce isn't a thing lol

This is a stretch imo ben. Definitely shouldn't be flavor clearing from your pov because its a weird mistske for both of you to make at once.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Scum = not town come on that's mafia 101

Thats great.

Scum aint going bus city with me and peaf.

No new info to your argument has been posted since your list.

So what are you up to posting a POE you know by your own logic is wrong.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Town:
3. Chang
6. FD
8. Kirby
12. Mzero (Replaced Taco)

Town unless their claiming Lopen's power but I ultimately trust them both:
2. Blade
13. Ulti

Town enough I don't want to lynch them today but I have less faith:
4. Ctes
5. Death (But I do have Godfather fear!)
7. IGCD

The Rest:
1. Ben
10. Peaf
11. Red

Where my head is at

This.

Because you just came out with a scumteam of red/peaf.

Thats obviously fucking ludicrous.

Which is where i tell you to go back and fix your poe because you have openly fucked up(or possibly are just scum but i want to know what you come up with).

TotallyNotMI posted...

Blade proposed that scum is strong and town is weak because the scum team is only 4, with a third party floating out there as well.

If Ben can't be scum (which does track to me - if scum Ben knew that MZero was going to taunt SBell, I don't think they shoot SBell last night) then, if Blade's theory is right, I think Ben is the +1

I'm confused why you would have ben as possible scum if you think he is 3p.

We have 0 evidence of the existence of 3p at all and hunting 3p is inherently anti town atm.

And i dont necessarily buy this, but it feels like a weird oversight for both of you to make

Because if thats the case are you sure fd didn't remember but then also had access to your info and then just assumed that was right?

Because fd is usually on top of flavor.

And google of "evil pierce" apparently unclears fd's flavor?

PunishedBen posted...

To be fair, I also falsely remembered things this way and told as much to my neighbors that you probably aren't scum because "there's no evil pierce". But I guess that's out the window

HOWEVER. The fact that FD remembered it this way and also forgot about evil pierce means there's no way he's faking it and ESPECIALLY no way he is evil pierce. So congrats, you're town cleared anyway

Wait what.

PunishedBen posted...

Oh, I guess I was thinking day 3. Don't think Wallz had any room to be protected by his team though when Kirby claimed roleblock on wallz.

Day 3 was just the consequences of corriks actions.

Also theres way more outs to kills being stopped than one roleblock.

Hell we all seem pretty convinced a doctor exists in addition to kirby. And someone believed you were bp.

PunishedBen posted...

I've been waiting to use that one. What if I was

Who did you push if NOT corrik?

Literally said to lynch wallz over him.

PunishedBen posted...

If MI was blocked then it means he not only didn't do the kill, but also didn't vote block ctes.

Has ctes said this is refreshing or is it just the same action running in perpetuity?

PeaceFrog posted...

Yeah, later in day 2. I included that in my run up, don't you worry. But also, safe lynch over corrik/blade is a very safe comment itself.

No, it really isnt. I always talk about making the safe play when town is up.

If I'm scum there, i push corrik, easy. Especially with wallz also being a broken as heck role. And only having to talk to chang.

TotallyNotMI posted...

This is a fair point, which just makes me thing the 4 + 1 theory is right and Ben is the +1.

What.

PeaceFrog posted...

When directly asked about wallz, red refused to give any opinion on him at all.

I'm pretty sure i said wallz was the safe lynch compared to corrik.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I definitely have some form of game plan for not claiming.

The payoff for this better be good.

I had some potential cards rolling around in my head to play yesterday if need be.

Today it likely would have just left me unable to talk as openly about the setup.

PunishedBen posted...

Can you elaborate?

No because its irrelevant now that you took back the bulletproof.

But kirby knows hes jk for sure, bp+doc+jk is too much protection. So if he thinks you are town and bp logically he should think blade is a dirty liar.

Not that it needed help but sbells role strengthens mzero claim even more.

Could write paragraphs on this but work.

Meow1000 posted...

Wallz' role could be used every night and completely destroyed SBell's. SBell had tons of risk of producing false positives every single night of the game.

Yeah sbell was just a fucking trap holy crap.

Like that is a fucking trap and a half.

But this broke it the other way actually.

Oh i misread that my bad thinking of invedtigator cause usually that thing is fucking broken.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Knightz had one of the most powerful Mafia roles I've ever seen and convinced people that we might be looking closer at role madness than anything.

I think doppleganger was unlimited wasnt it. Not that powerful in context.