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When you take it to the point of minority groups, it gets very dangerous. Who and what would qualify as a minority group in the EC, and how many votes are they assigned?
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

CableZL posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

Because the EC gives minorities that would be effected(in that case, homosexuals) more say in the matter. This benefits society as a whole.

What? The electoral college doesn't apply to a state voting on an issue that only applies to that state.

Yes it does. A state is made up of cities and counties that vote to effect that state just like a country is made up if states that vote to effect that country. Its literally the same concept

They don't use that system in those kinds of votes, though.
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

CableZL posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

How did you feel about that prop 8 vote in california then, several years ago? Would you have been ok with the popular vote then?

I disagree with the idea that individual states in the US can decide how they handle human rights and civil rights issues in the first place. "Whether or not gay people are allowed to get married" shouldn't be a thing that you have to decide on when living in certain areas of the US. It forces some to have to pack up and move to another state to be treated equally.

How is that any different than the popular vote? Is it fair to force someone to pack up and move to a different country because other people may or may not have decided poorly?

And how would an EC style vote have helped in the prop 8 vote?

Because the EC gives minorities that would be effected(in that case, homosexuals) more say in the matter. This benefits society as a whole.

So, then you only focus your campaigning and le legislation on the most influential group(s), and ignore the majority of people?
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

CableZL posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

How did you feel about that prop 8 vote in california then, several years ago? Would you have been ok with the popular vote then?

I disagree with the idea that individual states in the US can decide how they handle human rights and civil rights issues in the first place. "Whether or not gay people are allowed to get married" shouldn't be a thing that you have to decide on when living in certain areas of the US. It forces some to have to pack up and move to another state to be treated equally.

How is that any different than the popular vote? Is it fair to force someone to pack up and move to a different country because other people may or may not have decided poorly?

And how would an EC style vote have helped in the prop 8 vote?
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This topic makes me think that you don't.
If you really did, I think you would be more secure, and not need to make this "Uh-huh, you guys! I'm not making this up!", topic.
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Jesus is looking to hire you?!
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Zikten posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Your vote doesn't even truly matter with the EC

only if you live in a swing state, then it matters. swing states control the country. people complain about texas and california but it's the swing states who decide each election.

What I mean is the EC can vote for whoever they want, regardless of who won in the polls. You cast your vote, then they decide if they want to vote for the person that won, however, they could vote for Carrot Top, were they so inclined. That would be the vote that really counted.
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

No. The EC is a necessity for a country made up of states so that everyone has equal representation. Take this last election for instance to see why its so important: a candadite literally ignored a huge section of america while the other focused on them. The EC forces the presidents to campaign on policies that will benefit the most demographys and ultimately benefits the majoriry of the country.

With that said, its not for every country but its perfect for us and thus far hasnt failed us. Until it does, we should just leave it alone

But you can focus on a few states and ignore the rest and still win with this system. Your vote doesn't even truly matter with the EC, as they can vote for whoever they want, regardless of who wins the state.
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solosnake posted...

KILBOTz posted...

I was trying to describe a lighter way people might compartmentalize. Say you work for a call center where you solicit strangers knowing its mostly old people on a fixed income and you find the practice of the company to be abhorrent but you figure you need a job and taking advantage of seniors isn't who you really are.

Interesting. Is that really the same though? This is also part of what gives me unease about the concept, it suggests the killers arent really themselves while doing it. The thought is hard to grasp

Kinda.
A better comparison would be a soldiers, cops, doctors, paramedics etc...
People who encounter some real shit, but have to separate themselves from it, so they can function and a normal person.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

LordRazziel posted...

So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet?

You loss $10 either way.

The only difference is the additional Breaking & Entering / Illegal Trespassing charges on top from the Burglary.

Breaking and entering, then stealing is burglary.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Burglary is far more severe than theft.

Same difference. You end up being the victim and have lost something.

So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet?
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

I'm confused. Where on the cover does it say this kid was taken from it's parents?

I think it is implied because of the current state of the immigration practices. The child is depicted alone in front of Trump. This is suggesting that her parents are not here and she is "Welcomed" to America alone and crying.

They should have used a photo of an actual child that was separated from their parents. It delivered a larger statement.

Agree with you. You're supposed to look at it and think that. So the fact it comes out that THAT SPECIFIC child wasn't taken doesn't change the fact that others were.

It doesn't change the fact, I agree. But this was going to go viral and they knew it. Deliver it as it is in reality, because now that we've all learned that specific child wasn't in that scenario, it devalues the message to a degree.

And many of the people saying I'm confused. Where on the jacket does it say she was talking about the illegal immigrants?, would be slamming a similar act, had it been conservatives. That's why I always emphasize that such behaviors have nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. People tend to change their thinking, rather than face any sort of cognitive dissonance. Typically, people like to challenge others, but never themselves. Challenging your own thinking reallly should be a mode of thought be a focus in our education system.
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

I'm confused. Where on the cover does it say this kid was taken from it's parents?

I think it is implied because of the current state of the immigration practices. The child is depicted alone in front of Trump. This is suggesting that her parents are not here and she is "Welcomed" to America alone and crying.

They should have used a photo of an actual child that was separated from their parents. It delivered a larger statement.

Agree with you. You're supposed to look at it and think that. So the fact it comes out that THAT SPECIFIC child wasn't taken doesn't change the fact that others were.

It doesn't, but it's still shoddy and dishonest journalism.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

The value of the property doesn't change based on the punishment. Just seems like you want to see more punishment for some unknown reason.

I just want more thieves to be punished harshly.

As somebody who has been the victim of Burglars, I want to see them all suffer.

Burglary is far more severe than theft.
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RebelElite791 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Missed it.
What happened?

Dude kept posting racial slurs over and over calling everyone in the topic. (not *that* n-word but the outdated term for black people)

Like the verb you would use, if you had used a coloring book earlier in the day?
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Missed it.
What happened?
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Megaman50100 posted...

Kineth posted...

Asher and I live in Texas and are reasonably aware of the law.

I missed the citation of the actual link of Class C being alternatively defined petty theft before I made my post.

Happens to everyone.
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Classification and Penalties for Theft in Texas
Like the majority of states, Texas classifies its theft offenses according to the value of the stolen property or services -- and in some instances, by the type of property that is taken. Lets start by taking a closer look at each level of theft offense under Texas law, starting with Class C misdemeanor theft (or petty theft) which is the lowest level of theft in Texas.

Class C Misdemeanor Theft
Theft is a class C misdemeanor in Texas if the value of the property or services stolen is less than $50. (Tex. Pen. Code Ann. 31.03(e)(1)(A).) The punishment for a class C misdemeanor in Texas is a fine of no more than $500, and does not involve any jail time. ( 12.23.)

What aren't people getting, here?
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Bishop9800 posted...

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

I'm confused. Where on the cover does it say this kid was taken from it's parents?

What do you think the image was used to used to say? It was an implicit statement.
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DezDroppedFreak posted...

DarthWendy posted...

Let's not blow this out of proportion and jump to anti-white conclusions just yet, until all the facts are in. Pulling the "racizzzum" card at the slightest display of concern for public protection is quite the fallacy. And an all-too-common one, sadly enough.

Shut the fuck up.

It will be different, somehow, when the racism is towards a white person.
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frozenshock posted...

Well, since the US now has a president who is opposed to the electoral college, it's possible

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082

So did Obama.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

who's the toxic male who doesn't want to admit he thinks it's cowardly to express your emotions as a man

They seem to be a dying breed.
I've noticed it's pretty common for even tough/Macho guys to Express themselves.
That being said, it can be taken too far. Sometimes you gotta lock that shit down.
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Should the United States get rid of the Electoral College?
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It's not a sure thing, but yeah.
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Do a roast.
Smear it with some olive oil and herbs, then toss it in oven.
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kingdrake2 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

:(. kinda wish he had the shits. just to experience what everyone else on CE suffered last week.

Why?

for shits and giggles.

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That was totally a staged fight.
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kingdrake2 posted...

:(. kinda wish he had the shits. just to experience what everyone else on CE suffered last week.

Why?
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LanHikari10 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

LanHikari10 posted...

Turbam posted...

IIRC, Nintendo has stated that they would take all their IPs with them to the grave

Is that possible, legally? Wouldn't the IPs eventually enter the public domain at some point if Nintendo dissolved?

They would even if Nintendo is still around.

I can't really say I'm a copyright expert, but can't most companies still actively using their IPs extend the protections?

Nope.
That's why Disney sent lobbyists to extend the duration when Mickey Mouse was going to enter the public domain in the 90s.
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LanHikari10 posted...

Turbam posted...

IIRC, Nintendo has stated that they would take all their IPs with them to the grave

Is that possible, legally? Wouldn't the IPs eventually enter the public domain at some point if Nintendo dissolved?

They would even if Nintendo is still around.
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FF_Redux posted...

Grat shivering getting fever

The only prescription is more cowbell.
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Woodger posted...

Sayoria posted...

nemu posted...

Sayoria posted...

nemu posted...

COVxy posted...

So you criticize that intersex people are unrelated, then ignore chromosomes to bring up genitals. Sayoria has a vagina, thanks for verifying she's a woman. <3

And then you bring up sports and society which are unrelated. What the fuck.

No, she has penis that has been modified to resemble a vagina. There is a difference.

The problem with bringing up intersex people is that you're acting like it's some golden goose. The fact that they do not fall into the normal definition of sex does not mean the normal definition of sex is lacking or wrong. They are deformed. It doesn't mean they are lesser people because of it, but that's all it is. People being born with more or less fingers does not mean we need to redefine the idea of how hands work.

The point about sports and society is that transpeople should be accepted and not discriminated against for being transpeople. The problem with people of your mindset is that you want to extend that further and dictate how people have to think.

Can I has sex like a woman? Yes.
Must I pee like a woman? Yes.
Can women who are born with a vagina be unable to give birth to babies? Yes.

So like.... what difference does it make if mine is neo or not?

Similarly, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a cosmetic change (in terms of what it actually is at the end of the day, a surgically modified penis). It's perfectly fine for someone to be attracted to you, and I would not classify it as "gay" for someone to have sex with you. I will gladly call you female with no hesitation, but that does not change the base biological reality. If that is not an issue for some people, all the power to them.

I don't know what you are talking about. When I got my SRS, they changed my chromosomes to XX.

Wait what? You can't change existing chromosomes.

You can't.
I think it was a joke.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Mr_Karate_II posted...

I'm curious to know why the boy recorded the conversation.

So he could call The Sheriff and play him the recording

Where does it say that?
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P4wn4g3 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought it was that video game addiction is not a ligitamate condition.

I mean if you want an argument from me for the research side of things I think there are more worthwhile but similar pursuits, such as why people withdraw entirely into an activity, but again if we are talking pure academia then labels are somewhat arbitrary. Research into Gaming Disorder could find the solution to the above. But is should be noted that often with things like this big pharma or some other evil conglomerate views it as a cash cow and milks it accordingly, even in research. From the research I've seen on gaming as a disorder (I read on it some in college due to some related research I was doing) there wasn't much evidence that it really stood out in a different way from other activities that people get heavily drawn into. At least, the evidence wasn't presented in the papers I read.

Additionally though, if they are implementing it in ICD-11 that would imply giving it a clinical diagnosis code.

I would think big pharma would be more interested in some of the underlying conditions you spoke of. It seems likely that will not develop a video game addiction medication, but rather prescribe psychotherapy.
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Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought it was that video game addiction is not a ligitamate condition.
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FF_Redux posted...

I wanna do naked hiking

Until you tear it on a branch.
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scar the 1 posted...

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Error1355 posted...

BlueJester007 posted...

So, what was the TC really modded for?

Connect the dots between what he said in the top of this topic and the title of the topic he got moderated in.

So, he was using it to back up a claim that it's fucked up uneducated people are having kids?

No, he was saying that non-white people are dumb.

Wow!
Nevermind. TC truly is oppressed!
He should prolly seek legal council.
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Error1355 posted...

BlueJester007 posted...

So, what was the TC really modded for?

Connect the dots between what he said in the top of this topic and the title of the topic he got moderated in.

So, he was using it to back up a claim that it's fucked up uneducated people are having kids?
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Why devote so much time and concern to this?
I feel I've been unfairly modded before. I just go "Well, that's whack", and move on.
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The end is seriously fucking nigh.
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It already has multiple definitions...
>_>
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P4wn4g3 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/guide-to-psychiatry-and-counseling

That's nice but it depends on the type of licensing. Therapists can diagnose in some situations. I'd tell you the specific license if I remembered.

I guess that could be true in some states.
Do you have any sort of degree in psychology or psychiatry?

Nope.

Then, what makes you think you have the knowledge to the claim people who do and have researched these matters, as ridiculous?

Mostly experience with the psychiatric system. Medical experts have to rely on patients' ability to explain what is going on with them to give an accurate diagnosis. This can be particularly hard in psych where so many diagnoses are similar (the chief reason ICD-9 was updated, too many overlapping psych issues). Generally what someone does for fun is touched on fairly early on so a Gaming Disorder can be the first and only diagnosis given. Much like as mentioned before the widespread misdiagnosis of ADHD. This does depend on the provider of course, and whether they decide to ask what other problems the person has. I've had some do minimal work and give a misdiagnosis and others take their time. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a common intake diagnosis. In the end I'd rather not have fad diagnoses and treatments spread far when more reasonable solutions are just a couple more steps away for most people.

I also have parents who have worked in psych if that counts for anything. They had wanted me to go to med school for a significant portion of my life and still say I'd be a good nurse at the least, but I was determined to find my own way.

This is about research field, not the clinical field, though.
Many other medical conditions can be frequently misdiagnosed, as well. I don't think that has anything to say about their illegitimacy.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/guide-to-psychiatry-and-counseling

That's nice but it depends on the type of licensing. Therapists can diagnose in some situations. I'd tell you the specific license if I remembered.

I guess that could be true in some states.
Do you have any sort of degree in psychology or psychiatry?

Nope.

Then, what makes you think you have the knowledge to the claim people who do and have researched these matters, as ridiculous?
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P4wn4g3 posted...

LordRazziel posted...

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/guide-to-psychiatry-and-counseling

That's nice but it depends on the type of licensing. Therapists can diagnose in some situations. I'd tell you the specific license if I remembered.

I guess that could be true in some states.
Do you have any sort of degree in psychology or psychiatry?
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@P4wn4g3

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/guide-to-psychiatry-and-counseling

Types of Mental Health Professionals
Your doctor might refer you to any of the following mental health professionals:

Psychiatrist. A psychiatrist is a medical doctor (M.D. or D.O.) who specializes in preventing, diagnosing, and treating mental illness. A psychiatrist's training starts with four years of medical school and is followed by a one-year internship and at least three years of specialized training as a psychiatric resident. A psychiatrist is trained to differentiate mental health problems from other underlying medical conditions that could present with psychiatric symptoms. They also monitor the effects of mental illness on other physical conditions (such as problems with the heart or high blood pressure), and the effects of medicines on the body (such as weight, blood sugar, blood pressure, sleep, and kidney or liver functioning).
As a doctor, a psychiatrist is licensed to write prescriptions. Many mental disorders -- such as depression, anxiety, ADHD, or bipolar disorder -- can be treated effectively with specific drugs. If you are working with a psychiatrist, a lot of the treatment may be focused on medication management. Sometimes medication alone is enough to treat the mental illness. Sometimes a combination of medication and psychotherapy or counseling is needed. If that is the case, the psychiatrist may provide the psychotherapy, or the psychiatrist may refer you to a counselor or other type of mental health professional.

Psychologist. A psychologist has a doctoral degree (PhD, PsyD, or EdD) in psychology, which is the study of the mind and behaviors. Graduate school provides a psychologist an education in evaluating and treating mental and emotional disorders. After completing graduate school, a clinical psychologist completes an internship that lasts two to three years and provides further training in treatment methods, psychological theory, and behavioral therapy.
Licensed psychologists are qualified to do counseling and psychotherapy, perform psychological testing, and provide treatment for mental disorders. They are not, though, medical doctors. That means that, with the exception of a few states, psychologists cannot write prescriptions or perform medical procedures. Often a psychologist will work in association with a psychiatrist or other medical doctor who provides the medical treatment for mental illness while the psychologist provides the psychotherapy.
Licensed Mental Health Counselor. A psychological counselor is a mental health professional who has a master's degree (MA) in psychology, counseling, or a related field. In order to be licensed, the professional counselor also needs two additional years' experience working with a qualified mental health professional after graduate school. A mental health counselor is qualified to evaluate and treat mental problems by providing counseling or psychotherapy.

Clinical Social Worker. A clinical social worker has at least a master's degree in social work and training to be able to evaluate and treat mental illnesses. In addition to psychotherapy, social workers can provide case management and hospital discharge planning as well as work as an advocate for patients and their family.
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