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TotallyNotMI posted...

This is, by far, my biggest hesitation. If Lopen was cop and scum is going to use the claim the easiest way to prevent giving info is scanning the guy who got killed.

SBell was under basically no suspicion and most players agreed he was town.

It's a terrible scan and I don't buy it.

changmas posted...

yes and I even asked multiple times if that was the case. In fact, I wanted to be recruited into a cult!

But if Kirby and I were recruited into a cult, why the fuck would Kirby be saying any of this now

Doesn't mean you actually know you're in one.

What's kinda funny for Ulti here is if he actually tries to mislynch me people are going to get very very wary of why he keeps living every night.

He feels like he's hedging on whether he actually wants to go for it or not.

changmas posted...

we had to recite a poem with him to activate the BP. if we didn't recite, he didn't get it. or so he told us.

sure he could have lied and told us it would do something else (or BP could be the lie) but it felt reasonable to me

Seriously does a cult leader type indy fit this flavor at all

UltimaterializerX posted...

Oh there is absolutely zero chance I live to final 5. You can be big mad all you want, but scum knows Im telling the truth here. They got very lucky I scanned SBell, or else they would never have numbers again.

How convenient that you "scanned" a guy basically no one in the game thought was scum that happened to be shot.

I actually have no idea why Chang or Kirby would drag that out but I do agree Ben absolutely...

Oh shit.

Uh

Is Ben stealth Cult Recruiter

Also I wonder how long Ulti doesn't have me killed for in order to justify still being alive.

Summation: When Ulti's still alive in final 5 and has an "innocent scan" on everyone still alive immediately lynch him without the slightest shred of hesitation.

Please and thank you.

Leafeon13N posted...

Lopen was cop would be an awful turn of events.

Ulti acting like he could "confirm" people for 3 days was, as I expected, a blatant lie.

What a shock.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I meant that we didn't know they were power hunting.

Why do you think I made damn well sure I didn't claim so I could save Kirby

TotallyNotMI posted...

so ctes and death are NOT confirmed

What a shock, Ulti is full of shit.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im Frankie Dart, the cop. Yes, I somehow rolled cop two games in a row.

I made my scans very very obvious, in order I went ctes/Death/SBell. Scanned ctes night 1 because I wanted to just repeat last game. Scanned Death because Death should always be scanned. Scanned SBell because surely scum wont kill him early again.

So were at a very simple game state. We lynch Ben today. If I die tonight, Blade gets lynched tomorrow and no one else. If hes the real town doctor, he is to keep me alive so I can scan again. With any other outcome, he is tomorrows lynch.

aka, if Blade is scum he is now 100% cornered no matter what. If hes angry town, hell end up dead tonight and I get another scan.

So basically Ulti is scum godfather claiming cop actually confirms people got it.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Yeah but we didn't know that then, at the time they hadn't had a night kill yet.

Wallz' flip made it ridiculously obvious that Kirby blocked him sending the kill.

Leafeon13N posted...

We currently have 4 ways to stop a kill being claimed.

4? What aside from Kirby, me, and the obviously scum Ben?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Man why was I not neighborized.

I am offended by that being basically the only person on the board that has never been neighborized nor in a mason chat.

I will say one serious thing. Kirby seemed like the most obvious n2 kill to me so that's an interesting neighbor.

I wouldn't claim for Chang so I could pop a save on Kirby night 2 that no one would've expected came from me. Kirby was the "obvious" kill, but scum's been pretty clearly power hunting.

Oh and who's the guy who immediately launched personal attacks on me when I said Ben claimed scum the first time? That was Peaf.

This is too easy.

And it looks like Ben just claimed scum AGAIN so lol

TotallyNotMI posted...

Blade I trust you right now and have zero interest in lynching you today

but please take a breath. Take a break if you need to. Stay clear headed.

Uh I'm basically telling you who the scumteam is.

Leafeon13N posted...

Hmph. I am wary of trusting doc and jk together. Hell I'm wary of trusting any protection with jk.

Honestly i was sort of expecting blade was going to claim bg.

Oh I don't even blame you on that from a setup meta standpoint.

I think scum really fucked up on day 1 by wasting whatever they used on Lopen.

UltimaterializerX posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

I cede to the flavor experts.

lol bus vote

PunishedBen posted...

Why in God's name would you reveal that.

I can only assume this is nefarious

I want to vote Kirby right now because I don't understand it

Well good to know I was right about Ben.

Scum has absolutely zero reason to do what Kirby does on day 2.

Speaking of protection: Ulti has spent ages insisting a doctor existed and that there had to be more protection in 19 than just Kirby, but completely contradicted himself and is immediately trying to lynch the doctor.

I mean how hard is this really.

Kirby321 posted...

Because you're going to get yourself lynched Corrik-style if you don't be honest right now :P
Plus, something doesn't add up.

I'm Jailer.
Blade is Doctor.
And you're apparently Bulletproof.

That feels like a lot of protection for town.

"Apparently" Bulletproof?

Ben's claim reads to me as "Scum guy that invites town into neighbor chat and manipulates them".

Buuuuuut given how heavily Ulti's been hinting at some kind of recruiter type role (Cop wouldn't be giving "town confirms" as he claims), I'm finding it very curious what he's going to try to get by with.

PunishedBen posted...

Why blow up my plan. I told you everything and told you I would claim vanilla. There was only a benefit to keeping things secret. I have no reason to reveal anything at this point of the game because everyone I've neighbored is still alive.

Town Neighborizer. Can't Neighbor the game person on subsequent nights. Chang night 1, Kirby night 2, mzero night 3.

Now I'm REALLY curious what Ulti is about to fake claim.

Kirby321 posted...

I know bringing up the 't' word is a bit of unnecessary paranoia to sow. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if Ben was actually a third-party. I know Ben as a whole is a player of grandeur and splendor and making excuses for why he forgot he was a Bodyguard N1... but something felt fishy about my interactions with him. And I'm concerned that my trust in him as town was taken advantage of.

Which is why I'm especially concerned that he doubled down on lying about his role during a massclaim.

What proves Ben lied about his role

That would require you to actually be town. You were TMIing on Corrik all day yesterday until forced to actually act on it.

TotallyNotMI posted...

This feels like theater

I was 90% sure Corrik was flipping town and 90% sure Ben was scum at the end of day 3.

PeaceFrog posted...

Can't wait for you to see how wrong you are, buddy. I'm still fine with town lynching me as long as everyone promises to get red afterwards.

Oh I'm sure he'd immediately bus you next. Ulti is basically in one-man-army mode. He's won a lot of scumgames that way.

Kirby321 posted...

Hmm... it's convenient, but I'll believe it for now.

This game state looked like it was gonna be a town stomp, but now I'm having trouble figuring out who's actually scum, especially when the nightkills are on people like Isquen and SBell.

And honestly, given that pattern, it wouldn't surprise me if MI actually was the N1 kill, Blade blocked it, and I just happened to roleblock someone on the scumteam who didn't deliver the kill. But now's not the time for rabbit hole conspiracy-ing.

It isn't convenient. You're the obvious save target. You're practically confirmed town, and the guy who keeps demanding protection is scum.

But let me sum up Ulti yesterday,

Calls Corrik scum
Calls Peaf scum
Peaf's behavior make it way more likely than scum Peaf = town Corrik
Ulti blatantly sets up lynching me over Peaf if Corrik flips town
Ulti basically brushes aside my comment that he's trying to have it both ways

Like Ulti straight up said he was sure Peaf was scum yesterday but he's not going to lynch him because he is scum with him.

PeaceFrog posted...

You reveal that after Ulti claims after everyone else imo.

Ulti, think back to that game where sbell lynched town you instead of scum Marth at the end. I was commuting jk. Scum Chris claimed protection in that game and I'm getting major deja vu with Blade here, and Kirby stopping a kill. Am i crazy?

Reminder this is someone who I nailed as scum yesterday who has done nothing today but try to lynch a doctor

ctesjbuvf posted...

Yes, that is also exactly what I'm saying checks out.

Now stop complaining about a mislynch when you have one vote on you.

It's more about scum MVP Corrik than anything.

Though in fairness I included Wallz in that post because I didn't want to make it completely obvious I saved MI

Just lynch Ben/Peaf/Ulti in some order and you win it's not hard guys.

ctesjbuvf posted...

MI definitely looked like a cop out lynch at the end of the day 1, makes sense as a n1 protection target for me.

I checked and Meow does come in to day 2 immediately calling MI town.

I'm leaning towards truthful.

Hm it's almost like I thought I saved MI from a kill

So what obviously made up yet somehow just convincing enough role will Ulti invent this time to justify his behavior

Lot of people claiming vanilla, what a shock.

Also Ben throwing shade on Kirby is hilarious.

Just lynch Ben/Peaf/Ulti in some order and you win it's not hard guys.

I can even die right here and town just wins if you follow me.

Kirby321 posted...

And wasted two town night actions on him (mine and MZero's)... fucking idiot.

I'm especially annoyed because I was literally a coinflip away from jailing SBell. Maybe that's a blessing in disguise because he might've ended up mislynched today, but hot damn I can't believe I was this close to stopping another nightkill.

Though Blade claiming Doc is interesting. Who did you protect each night, Blade?

If we're going to massclaim today (which I wouldn't be opposed to), I'd ask that I wait to reveal who I jailed last night until everyone claims. Probably doesn't matter in the long run, and if people think I should show my hand now, I'll do it, but just to be safe.

I've saved you the last two nights. Last night I considered saving someone totally at random given the Isquen kill night 2, but SBell wouldn't have been my first choice for that anyway.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I was openly begging for protection and I have an incredible role. Blade should be dead by now.

You're scum bluffing.

So basically.

Corrik is going to get himself mislynched and the town doctor mislynched and scum Ulti is going to win the game because no one will have the balls to lynch him.

Can we just speed this up and lynch me now without a massclaim please? I have some really important worker's comp related things to be doing tomorrow.

UltimaterializerX posted...

We mass, I go last. Nothing else happens today.

By the way when we're at lylo and Ulti is still mysteriously alive, lynch him immediately. He's not town.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Who almost got lynched btw

Scum never shoots the player that barely avoided getting lynched day 1. Blade thinking he stopped a kill there is eeeeeeeh

MI looked like a scum driven countertrain to Knightz that had a chance of overtaking him if I had joined it.

No one looked more town at the end of that than MI did.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Ben.

When you next check back, I need Blades reaction to my thoughts on the Isquen kill when I said they were doc hunting.

My initial reaction to Corrik faking a roleblock on me was to say scum shot at me, was trying to frame me, and asking the doctor who saved me not to claim, for the record.

changmas posted...

i mean frankly scum arguably hit a more important role than doctor

Basically a super watcher yes.

ctesjbuvf posted...

If they are doctor hunting and Blade is town they know moves at night, you would think they shot him would you not

That's why I clearly hinted at non-protective with my intentional use of the word impossible

Until Kirby's claim I fully believed I stopped the kill. Once Kirby claimed I was trapped in a lie I didn't even know was a lie.

PunishedBen posted...

Just understand that for your reason you gave to make any sense, Red has to be town. Do you really think he looks townier than me? >__>

You practically claimed scum at the end of day 3.

Oh and I have zero trust in Ulti here after Corrik's townflip. Ulti was pretty obviously setting up to lynch me yesterday if Corrik flipped town.

ctesjbuvf posted...

If you get lynched it is not because of Corrik saying that lmao. No one has suspected you once for that.

It forced me to an in between spot with my claim.