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Rad Link 5 posted...
It's cool of them to bring back Nintendo Week.

What's Nintendo Week?

It was a webisode that ran on the Nintendo Channel (a channel that mostly focuses on trailers on the Wii system), that came on about once a week. See my above post for more information.

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YetAnothrShadow posted...
I remember a topic a short time ago about Nintendo Week getting canceled.

I'll say now what I said than.

People watch Nintendo Week?

Yeah, I watched it from the beginning, it was only about 10 mins an episode along with only airing about once a week. It was probably the best cheesy comedy around in the last few years. If you only count standard tv shows and standard webisodes (not stuff like quick youtube skits or fan made stuff), I'd say it was one of the best new shows since it started, possible the best comedy since it started and probably better then any long running comedy at least when you compare the years it was aired to those comedies during the same time. You also have the fact that it was informative about gaming on top of being funny.

I knew Gary and himself Dark Gary couldn't carry the show by themselves, cause what was a kool concept just became sad and depressing. They had a chance if they could find a suitable replacement for Alison, but I saw it as around a coin toss of them doing that.

I also found my twin somewhat recently, so they can't cancel it :(.

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U suck Bros.

3/29/2012

RIP Nintendo Week

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You definitely should have upgraded your connection by now to at least cable (unless you live somewhere where you can't), but I still agree partially, most should be download only though. For really big (I'd say we're at least talking around full blu ray disc single layer size, 25GB) or really popular downloads it could be faster to get the disc in some way, or for some reason you could be using up most of your bandwidth at the time and need to speed it up by getting the disc because of that. This is all still assuming that the console maker hosts all the downloads and has good servers too. There's also the fact that with really important games, if the disc is only a little more, you may want the extra back up option.

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Also, as far as the AI in TS 1 goes, I didn't mean just lock on aim, I meant lock on aim, insta detect, insta fire, and insta hit.

Thanx for the info Wanglicious, hopefully I get a few more responses too.

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OmarsComin posted...
Timesplitters was a good game, I never completed single player, but played a decent amount of it and played a good amount of multiplayer, but really the series ended with the first one. A large part of it's popularity most likely has to do with that there were really no other shooter options for the PS 2 when it was first released. The Red Faction series was the first major blow to it, and there are countless other options that are more then likely better then it (especially if you count TPS). If you also count motion controls, you also have at least Golden Eye Wii, which I would go back and play some more before touching any other games from that series.

wait what is this post

the first Timesplitters isn't that great. It's not awful, but not spectacular. 2 and 3 are the best console FPS games of that gen, and maybe ever.

I doubt that, Red Faction 1 and 2 take it over TS 2 and 3 for that generation unless they contributed something major to the FPS genre and fixed the major problems of TS 1. I'm not exactly sure what I'd call the best console FPS of all time or best FPS of all time.

TS 1 had the problem that if you suicided, unless you were playing + kill -Death mode which takes forever to win, you wouldn't get negative to your score, so you could exploit and jump off a cliff to get full health if you were about to die (granted, this could be looked at as strategy in itself, but it should probably have been removed). Next, the first game was riddled with glitches where you could basically fall out of the world and exist on your own plane but you would still kind of be in the normal world just with everything different and being able to see but not interact with the other player unless they did the same thing or you glitched back in(which wasn't always possible), there was one level where if you did it a certain way it was kind of kool and somewhat added to the game play, but for the most part it was annoying. Finally, in story mode, the AI was pretty unimpressive, and there were too many points where you could get stuck in an area and pretty much guarantee they would hit you when you tried to get out because most of them had lock on aim, since my skill has increased overall with gaming I could probably better deal with that now, but it's still not really a good practice.

As far as contributions to the FPS genre, Red Faction, especially the first one if I remember right, added almost completely destructible environments to the game and allowed you to create your own paths basically in some levels. The also had a decent set of new weapons and items, and the way some of them were used (including how you used the controller), was kind of interesting.

As far as console FPS games go, Red Faction 1 and 2 pretty much ate up the rest of my console FPS time in that gen, that's why I never bought the new TS games. Also, even some time after that gen, I went back and played TS, RF, and RF 2, combined with other FPS games I was interested in caused me to not buy the new TS games (TPS games played a role in me not getting them too, but since they're still somewhat (to very depending) different, if I didn't have a few FPS games in there that I liked I may have bought them).

The praise I'm seeing the series getting has peaked my interest though, so please answer my questions about the problems that need fixing above and tell me the new good points 2 and 3, I can always go back and buy them.

*edit*= edit above

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Timesplitters was a good game, I never completed single player, but played a decent amount of it and played a good amount of multiplayer, but really the series ended with the first one. A large part of it's popularity most likely has to do with that there were really no other shooter options for the PS 2 when it was first released. The Red Faction series was the first major blow to it, and there are countless other options that are more then likely better then it (especially if you count TPS). If you also count motion controls, you also have at least Golden Eye Wii, which I would go back and play some more before touching any other games from that series.

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I haven't seen Thor or Captain America, you don't need to see either of them to follow the movie, but there is a decent amount of stuff from both of them that ties into the Avengers plot. I'll probably go back and watch both to flesh out the plot a little more and because of the fact that I'm pretty sure there's going to be at least a sequel and it could matter there (among a few other reasons).

Also, I liked the 2003 Hulk movie better then the 2008, but the 2008 Hulk fits better with the Avengers.

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*Spoilers*

As far as the Zelda reference goes though, the fact that they use Iron Man and Pepper to do it also makes me think that they intended to do it.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...
I think you're imagining the Chrono Trigger reference. It's just cool super hero combo attacks... .like that Iron Man shooting Cap's Shield to beam those dudes thing may be straight our of Ultimate Alliance.

*Spoilers*


It could be out of Ultimate Alliance or just general super hero team up combos, or I suppose in MvC they team up also and sort of do combo attacks (almost forgot about that). Like I said, I'm not really sure of that, but I figured I throw it out there anyway.

*edit*= edit above.

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*Spoilers*


They may also reference Chrono Trigger. Iron Man starts talking in Shakespearean language in the forest when he fights Thor, this on top of the fact that the characters have a few combined moves throughout the movie, along with the fact that I think the first combination is technically when he fights Thor and Thor accidently charges up Iron Man with a move that includes electricity, and having someone play Galaga, makes me think this, but I'm not as sure as the Zelda reference, but also, the Zelda reference in itself helps to support this.

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Mozzezz posted...
MrGreenonion posted...
Was Avengers filmed in 3D or is it that cheap post-production 3D?

I'm not sure, now that you mention it I'm gona look into it in a second.

Post production, just checked Wikipedia, that's probably why some spots look kind off, still though most of it is really good.

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MrGreenonion posted...
Was Avengers filmed in 3D or is it that cheap post-production 3D?

I'm not sure, now that you mention it I'm gona look into it in a second.

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*Spoilers*


The fact that they showed that makes me almost certain that they were trying to reference Zelda by having Iron Man wear a Black Sabbath shirt that has the Triforce symbol on it along with the fact that he makes some probability statements to Pepper.

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Still deciding on an an exact rating, but yeah it's definitely worth seeing, just got back a little bit ago. There's a few spots that may look a little off, but pretty much make sure you see it in 3d it's really good. Make sure also you stay till the very end of the credits, there's an extra scene there too.

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Punnyz posted...
oh damn I forgot that Napoleon Dynamite had a cartoon

....is it still going?

The first season ended a few weeks ago.

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Yeah it's pretty good, surprisingly Fox has goten a decent amount of hits almost back to back on the Fox Block, with The Cleveland Show, Bob's Burgers and Napoleon Dynamite (with either of the first two being the best).

AdmiralZephyr posted...
I've only seen a couple of episodes, but I can safely say that the little girl with the bunny ears is easily the best character.

I'll second her being the best character.

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Been pretty excited for this movie, it's probably the most excited I've been since they first released started releasing X-men and Spiderman. I've seen both Iron Man and both Hulk movies (the first Hulk movie was good enough, they didn't need to remake it), but haven't seen Captain America or Thor. The first Hulk movie I was definitely glad I saw, but for the most part The Avengers themselves are the only thing I'm really interested in as far as stuff that has to do with them goes, but from here I'll decide if I want to go back and watch the other movies leading up to this movie.

*edit*=I played an old Arcade game with them in it, and that's mainly where the interest comes from.

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Oh I forgot to address this, though mostly run by the Communist party, from what I understand, China is mostly Socialist. So Socialism hasn't failed, though like I said earlier, the system we have isn't bad, and I wouldn't quickly trade it for Socialism.

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Guess I'll bump cause of my edit in my previous post.

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Lopen posted...
Well I'm personally not too surprised that someone whose claim to fame is parting a large body of water isn't big on bathing.

lol

Forgot to address this, Mozzezz is a joke name, and I'm an atheist also. I was more along the lines of agnostic (but not exactly) before but proved logically that that's wrong (before both of those beliefs when I was younger I believed there was a god but you didn't have to go to church). Don't feel like going into that explanation or the explanation behind the name.

edit*= and I do enjoy my showers, I usually just space them out along with taking longer ones for relaxation.

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Mozzezz posted...
Entrepreneurs typically become entrepreneurs by working 100+ hour weeks

They also get there by many of the ways I described, and this topic is about the standard 40 hour work week.

Also, though I'm sure some do, 100+ hours a week being the norm is an exaggeration even for people running their own business. From what I know it's usually 70-80.

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Entrepreneurs typically become entrepreneurs by working 100+ hour weeks

They also get there by many of the ways I described, and this topic is about the standard 40 hour work week.

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Much of this country fell into a mindset that you have to work a standard 40 hour a week job and are somehow entitled to something for doing it, while at the same time biting the heads off of people who either said or did other wise, that's why a good portion of it is falling apart. If you want to work like that good for you, but don't attack entrepreneurs and other various people who don't follow suit.

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CoolCly posted...
Keeping up with electronics on a weekly basis is not a requirement, it's a hobby.

That being a requirement is like saying it's a requirement to keep up on every political and business move going on. Is it a good thing to keep informed? Maybe. But no, the business articles I read are a hobby, and the electronic info you keep up with are likewise.

So in 2012 computers and cell phones aren't yet considered a necessity? It's also usually much cheaper and convenient to do the work yourself for PCs, which includes things like weeding out viruses manually since antiviruses don't get them all and you don't want to always have to reformat (which requires keeping up with them), reformatting them, updating and tweaking software, and building your own PC. Also, laptops are fairly different then desktops, both the hardware and software, and take even more knowledge to manage them. The time for this stuff can't really be viewed as a weekly thing either, it's probably better viewed on the scale of a year.

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Sir Cobain posted...
i would like to know what a typical week for mozzezz consists of

Many of the things I mentioned in my posts. Some of the skills I've gained besides just computers and electronics (though some of this stuff still kind of has that in there) have included learning to snake the main in my front lawn, learning various things about my car, learning how to take apart my pool pump, many things about politics, and a bunch of other subjects I don't feel like remembering right now. I've also had my fair share of jobs, but it has been awhile since I've been employed.

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CoolCly posted...
Mozzezz... so hobbies like keeping up on new electronics are required but stuff like showering and shaving can be skipped?

Unless you go for months on end without doing it, yes I would say keeping up with electronics is more important then both of those things. Remember, cowboys and other various people from the past would spread out their baths, and usually take long ones,

edit*=but more then likely take less time overall.

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neonreaper posted...
Mozzezz posted...
One of the biggest chores (though I admit it's still some what fun) that hasn't been mentioned yet, is maintaining your computer and other electronic devices you have, including keeping up with whatever the newest technology is. Once you factor that in along with all other chores and everything else, 40 hours really isn't doable. People have mentioned this in here all ready, but building your own skills, which include learning about various electronics, is very important, and neglecting that is a mistake. It's not everyone, but a good portion of the time when people are working 60-80 hours a week, they made extremely bad life decisions, then try to impose what they do on everyone else. Games and other entertainment also do have value, and you can't simply dismiss them as "game and entertainment".

can you weigh in on the awesome debate Subdiety and Vlado are having? please

I don't know enough about those countries to say exactly what they are (and only skimmed his Wikipedia links, Wikipedia should be trusted most of the time btw). I should probably read up on it more, but from what I know Socialism and Communism are pretty different. Also, giving to things like charity could be viewed as selfish, since you're supporting people who may later or directly help you. It also gets really tricky with how much money you should actually force to be redistributed in a system because it's very hard to draw the line of what are actually needs and wants (really impossible cause all wants help you in some way unless you make a mistake, and many of them can really matter). The system we have in the US isn't bad, I would say more should probably go to basic health care, but they need to be very careful with how they do it because I could see it easily being exploited. Obama never should have implemented universal health care basically for only children, it gives too much incentive for people to just go and have babies in bad situations.

Also, you can skip showers to a certain degree without negative consequences, I know someone who asked a doctor about it, besides personally doing it, so sometimes getting cleaned up for the work day will actually take away time from you that normally wouldn't be taken away, especially if you have a job that requires you to do things like shave, which definitely can skipped if needed.

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One of the biggest chores (though I admit it's still some what fun) that hasn't been mentioned yet, is maintaining your computer (or computers) and other electronic devices you have, including keeping up with whatever the newest technology is. Once you factor that in along with all other chores and everything else, 40 hours really isn't doable. People have mentioned this in here all ready, but building your own skills, which could (and probably usually should) include learning about various electronics, is very important, and neglecting that is a mistake. It's not everyone, but a good portion of the time when people are working 60-80 hours a week, they made extremely bad life decisions, then try to impose what they do on everyone else. Games and other entertainment also do have value, and you can't simply dismiss them as "game and entertainment".

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_stingers_ posted...
From: GranzonEx | #048
I highly suggest no one to take CG seriously. It's not meant to be anything but a fun ride. If it's philosophical then Amagami is philosophical.
CG can definitely be pondered philosophically, there's a lot of good stuff in there. But it won't force feed it to you, you're on your own to find it.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with this, I'm not in the mood to push or explain it any further then what I did in my earlier posts.

Also, I do agree that Big O and Evangelion are pretty philosophical, FMA B is also not bad but not as good as the first, was just trying to trim down my list and add a few unmentioned options. Black Rock Shooter is up there on my list of potential animes to watch, so I'm also glad to see it get mentioned in this topic.

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Ayuyu posted...
From: Liquid Wind | #005
staring at screens all day does bad things to you, plus this is an american centric site and americans are hella malnourished, honestly it's shocking most of you are going to live past 30 the way you eat
I've stared at screen my whole life and it never affected me negatively.

Same here for the most part. In fairness though when I was younger I was considered excessive for what I did which is fairly less then what's considered excessive now, but over the last 6-7 years or so I've reached those new excessive levels for the most part (sort of cause there have been things I've been involved in in that time where I probably dropped down to my normal rates or so, possible less at some points) and still haven't needed glasses. I haven't had my eyes checked for about 6 years, but I'm not having any problems.

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Theon_Greyjoy posted...
I'm surprised there are so many who mainly wear glasses compared to contacts.

Then again this site is mostly virgins so maybe I shouldn't be surprised!

Not that you can't look good in glasses, but it's an automatic negative in first impressions when it comes to attraction.

Not for me, I like them girls with glass, I mean they don't have to have glasses depending on some other things, but I definitely like it. I put this together awhile ago, but it probably makes sense based on how I'm specced lol.

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Mozzezz posted...
KokoroAkechi posted...
My vision is actually rated a little under 20/20, but it's not where I actually have to do anything about it. When I say a little it's like 20/19.9999999 or something like that

That's actually better then 20/20, the lower the number the better.

Actually no sorry you're right you do have worse vision, I just looked it up. What I have is 15/20 vision in one eye (better then 20/20) and 20/20 in the other. This somewhat explains it but you have to read all the posts, also, it's possible to have different ratios in each eye, but it doesn't explain that, you can google to find that people with bad vision can have have different ratios in each though to see that that part works like that...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070827080334AAvykcz

I've never had to wear glasses of any sort and the last time I got that checked was around 5 years ago or so, when I was around 22.

edit*=Actually it's been about 6 years now since I had them tested, I'll be 28 in June.

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KokoroAkechi posted...
My vision is actually rated a little under 20/20, but it's not where I actually have to do anything about it. When I say a little it's like 20/19.9999999 or something like that

That's actually better then 20/20, the lower the number the better.

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I've got 15/20 vision (or 20/15 I forget), that's better then "20/20" in one eye and "20/20" in the other. I do have a few floaters (that may be the actual right word for them too but I'm not sure) that I can see if I really pay attention though, but that's not counted in that.

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Solfadore posted...
From: Mozzezz | #039
Code Geass
No. You can call Geass a lot of things, but not deeply philosophical.

*Spoilers*




The stuff dealing with the thought elevator.

Suzaku and Lelouch going near insane and how they deal with it.

Lelouch constantly struggling with what he should do.

I forget the exact lines, but when they're in the truck Lelouch mentions to CC something along the lines of the one girl not liking deep thought.



These are just a few of the examples, yes it deals a lot with Strategy, Mechs, Ruling Empires and Rebels, (among other things, along with a few things that are pretty crazy but even some of that stuff could be argued to be philosophical), but it definitely has it's philosophical elements.

Another thing is that Philosophy is really a very broad term, but it has what people generally consider to be philosophical elements in there.




*End Spoilers*

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C

It's something I've contemplated for awhile, unless of course it's a job that somehow encompass everything you need, which is extremely rare.

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Code Geass
Death Note
Full Metal Alchemist
Ghost in the Shell 1st and 2nd gig
Paranoia Agent
FLCL
Durarara

Off the top of my head in no order, all of them have their good points philosophically.

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http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5721106

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OctilIery posted...
MZero11 posted...
From: OctilIery | #008
When nintendo has to abandon console making ala sega, of course, if it comes to that.

But that's still a long ways off.
They still dominate handheld so even if they abandon consoles they still have that to fall back on.

Didn't the DS outsell the 360, PS3, and the Wii?

Handhelds and consoles are completely different and can't be fairly compared.

Not to mention Nintendo is losing its stranglehold on the handheld market too, albeit slowly, because smartphones are becoming a major source for handheld gaming, like it or not :/

It's not that other handheld devices aren't also extremely relevant even for gaming, it's that Nintendo's handheld experience, at least at the moment, is pretty much too unique to fully replicate on a standard handheld device like a phone or netbook (or tablet(apply or tablet to any place that says phone or netbook)). Dual cameras (for games like system flaw), gyro sensor (motion controls), pen for touch screen, dual screens, 3d, and pretty much a full PS2 controller in the palm of your hand on a handheld device (which include for the most part dual analog). Yes, some of this stuff can be done on your phone or netbook, and the 3DS is missing some stuff, like a small keyboard, but to fully replicate that experience on a phone or netbook and always have to carry it around, you're probably going to be dealing with too bulky of a device. Then you have the fact that their device is still relevant while also having the recent serge (somewhat recent) in handheld (mostly phone) popularity in general, and the fact that they still probably have more good games on it then a phone (and probably netbook).

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It does seem kind of scary at first but I suppose they probably should do it. I pretty much came to all these conclusions before I watched it, but his other video,



further proves the point.

One of the things I question is, Canada says if you pay with your debit card and not cash, the exact amount will be deducted from your account, but when they run out of pennies, if you go to collect your money, they're not going be able to pay you the exact amount. I don't think this is really a big deal either, but I think it's woth pointing out that they neglected to mention that in either of the videos.

Another not so big of a deal, is that I also wonder how many people will actually turn them in, I'd definitely keep a few rolls for the collectors sake, mainly cause if they really do go almost completely out of circulation, they're gona be worth a pretty penny lol (especially the pennies that are already rare).

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MZero11 posted...
From: OctilIery | #008
When nintendo has to abandon console making ala sega, of course, if it comes to that.

But that's still a long ways off.
They still dominate handheld so even if they abandon consoles they still have that to fall back on.

Didn't the DS outsell the 360, PS3, and the Wii?

I wasn't counting handhelds, but if you count them, they're definitely not going out anytime soon.

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The Wii-U probably won't be as successful as the Wii, but Nintendo is no where near their end. Many people held out on the HD systems this gen (or bought them near the middle or end) because they were pretty overpriced (and I would bet most didn't buy an HD TV until at least the end of the gen) when you could buy a motion controlled system for much cheaper and also had a few relevant non HD games for PC. So number 1, Nintendo's not only adding HD, their going to combine it with motion controls (along with 1:1 motion) and the rest of the new aspects I'm about to mention. Number 2, there's the tablet part of the system, tablets I would say are probably almost useless (at least by themselves), but if they're gona combine it with games (or things) I already like, there's not much of a better way to test them out and make sure I'm not missing anything since I'm not extremely confident of their uselessness (and I'm pretty sure there are many people who would agree). Then there's what I think is gona be the one of, if not the most important, things, motion controlled games combined directly with the tablet, like golf, and if they make a stand for the tablet, that will probably also open up many more combinations.

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I haven't seen the series (well at least not much of it, I've seen a few episodes here and there), but I wouldn't give the movie anything less then a 7/10, and it was definitely worth seeing it in 3d when it came out (the 3d movies I've seen are very close in quality, but this still probably had the first or second best effects I've seen in a 3d film). I only saw it by chance, I had no plans to see it, but through a series of circumstances wound up going with some people I knew, and I'm glad I did.

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Thanx, I only wish I could invest more.

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Avengers

I remember seeing and playing them in an arcade game as a kid briefly, and I remember it being pretty good, and that's pretty much the only encounter I had with the actual team, but I always wanted to learn more about them (but not enough where I wanted every member to have their own movie). The last time I was actually really excited for a superhero movie was probably Batman Begins, so it's been awhile, and I'd say my excitement for this probably falls somewhere in between that and when X-Men and Spiderman first started getting released (the most exited I ever was about superhero movies).

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OmarsComin posted...
PC > every console only if you include emulation

if not, it depends on genre. if you're not huge into strategy games I could easily see someone argue PS2 or SNES over PC.

I didn't think I'd have to mention it (I suppose I will anyway though), but I wasn't counting emulation, if you count emulation it's a pretty safe bet that PC destroys everything.

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True bottom line, you have a bunch of Wii games in the upper end ranking of 8-10/10, compared to very few with PC games, but the PC does have a decent amount of stuff at or below a 7/10, where the Wii doesn't have as much, they both have around an equal amount of trash (if anything though the PC would have more), so they just about balance each other out. It should also be noted that much of the Wii's high rankings come from motion controlled gaming, and what is motion controlled gaming really, air mouse gaming, which is actually relevant to the PC (not that everything has to be relevant to the PC to be good). The PC in the future will also probably pass the Wii since the Wii will eventually die, but as of right now they're about equal.

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Metal_DK posted...
SNES>N64=PS>PS2=Wii=PC>NES>DC>GC=Genesis>PS3>DSi>the rest

Counting everything (including 3ds and Arcades), the PS3 is the most relevant system right now though, mostly because of UMvC 3 (and MvC 3) and SFxT. Once this fighter madness dies down though it'll probably shift over to the 3ds, or at the very least, a bunch of titles will be worth going back for on that system.

if were including the PC then having it anywhere near the wii is an absolute joke

The PC is better than the PS2, SNES, and PS1. The three best systems..

The only game I really rate a 10/10 with the PC is Gunz the Duel. Yes it's close to being the best game ever made, but it's not enough to defet a whole system. The only other two games I would debate as being 10s on the PC are Warcraft 3 and Star Craft 2. Counter Strike, Diablo 2,and Portal are all like 7/10s. Your super high graphics games like Crysis are like 6/10s (though admittedly I could use more info on Crysis). MMO RPGS are extremely overrated, the best probably being DAoC pre ToA, and I'd only give that probably a 5.5/10. If you also count arcade type flash games you get a couple more 7/10s. You also have stuff like Planet Side that may be around 7/10, but there's not too many of those types either. Some Pioneers like Doom I'd probably put around 6/10, but not much better. I've been curious about whats been going on with Sim City, that may bump the ranking up some, but I still wouldn't say too much (along with it also possible being released for consoles). What else am I missing, maybe stuff like Battlefield and some Star Wars games, which I'd put around 6/10. Minecrafts another possible interesting game, but still probably not much above a 6/10. Then there's some scattered unique things like Serious Sam that I'd put around a 7/10. Bottom line, the PC is mostly filled with below 5/10 garbage games, with a half decent amount of things at or slightly below a 7/10, and extremely few actually above that with almost no 10s.

The Wii Pioneered motion controlled gaming (along with 1:1 motion controlled gaming), and what is motion controlled gaming really, air mouse gaming, which is actually very relevant to the PC (not that everything has to be relevant to the PC to be good). That's along with it's fairly large list of 8-10/10s. Mario Galaxy (definite 10/10), Mario Galaxy 2, TP (definite 10/10), SS (probably a 10/10, I'll say it's almost definitely atleast an 8/10, but I suppose I'll with hold the definte (or almost definite) 10/10 until I beat it), FFIV The After Years, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, Golden Eye 007 Wii, Mario Kart Wii, Brawl, and Wii Sports Resort (any game not listed as a definite 10/10 has the potential to be a 10/10 I'm just not as sure). Then you have a few that are at least 6-7/10s, Wii Fit Plus, Tetris Party, Wii Sports, NSMB Wii. If you count the Channels, such as the voting channel where you predict what people like, and the fact that the Nintendo Channel had the Nintendo Week Show, it goes even higher, but I suppose I won't count that for this argument. I will however count the Internet Channel though at least up to the point where they kept the Flash fairly up to date, and count Arcade type Flash games for it that ran there, there were even a few that they tried to make for the Wiis Motion Controls, like the DBZ Evolution game, which I'd put between a 5.1-6/10. The Wii also has its fair share of crap, but as I mentioned above, so does the PC. Since in a few years the Wii will die and be replaced by the Wii you, the PC will more then likely ultimately pass it, but at this point, it and the PS2 (I don't fell like making a complete argument for the PS2 though), are equal to the PC, along with the systems I have above them still being above (I don't feel like making a full argument for them either).

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