Lurker > Paratroopa1

I also still enjoy Metroid also, some roughness around the edges here or there might make it an 'acquired taste' but I think it still plays smoothly and has an exciting map to explore. Still a great game.

-hotdogturtle-- posted...

Combining GB with GBC may have been a cruel decision.

I felt the same way, but it seems like a lot of people just haven't really played that many GB/GBC games combined, so I guess combining them was the right call.

+5 The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
+4 Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
+4 Pokemon Trading Card Game
+3 Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
+3 Pokemon Puzzle Challenge
+3 The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons
+2 Lufia: The Legend Returns
+2 The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
+2 Mega Man III
+2 Mega Man V
+1 Mega Man: Dr. Wily's Revenge
+1 Kirby's Star Stacker
+1 Kirby's Dream Land 2
+1 Metroid II: Return of Samus
+1 Wario Land II
+1 Game Boy Camera
+1 Kirby's Pinball Land
+1 Mega Man IV
+1 Tetris
+1 Kirby's Dream Land

McGilded is on the ropes really early though, like he could have been convicted pretty easily, was he always just going to smoke bomb and escape or like, what's the deal, I seriously don't know, it feels like he needed Ryunosuke to bail him out

I'm surprised at just how low G1-2 got, I never would have pegged it as second from the bottom

7/10

I have serious problems with this case, and they're not small ones. I kinda talked about it in the recent GAA playthrough topic but I'll rehash it here. WHAT was McGilded's plan here? Did he even need an attorney in the first place? Was he unable to bribe one, and if so, why? Why was he relying on Ryunosuke coming in at the last minute if he actually had the rest of the trial completely under his control? It really makes no sense and it reeks of contrivances. Again, this is not a small problem - the whole case is about McGilded masterminding his own acquittal, so if the plan doesn't make sense from the beginning it really undermines the entire story. There are times when a plot hole like this might be overlooked or handwaved but I can't do that here. McGilded's plan just somehow magically morphs from him having no plan at all to having it all planned out from the start.

Other than that... yeah, I did actually find McGilded to be a very compelling character, and it's probably the only time in the entire first game where I didn't really know where things were going. I didn't know if McGilded was innocent or not! That's pretty fun. Obviously, the tricks he plays with the omnibus are great. Gina's debut here is great, though I do find this case odd as a vehicle for introducing the British court, the jury, and Van Zieks, who doesn't really come into his own until later imo, he gets a bit overshadowed here. The bit cast in this case kind of sucks - the other people who were in the coach feel like totally unserious characters to me and that feeling kind of pervades a lot of the minor characters in these games, they feel like Layton characters.

It's a good case with some real highlights but it doesn't all quite come together.

Super Metroid (Super Nintendo)
Policenauts (PC)
Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 (Game Boy)
Mega Man X (Super Nintendo)

Lairon/Hattrem
Hippowdon/Scorbunny
Suicune/Vileplume
Miltank/Ogerpon

Eh, I don't really see winners or losers here, I wasn't treating this like a contest, just an aggregate of our faves

"Successor to the Nintendo Switch" confirmed, not necessarily Switch 2.

TeamRocketElite posted...

I forget, is Nikolina ever told the truth about what happened with Kazuma?

I don't think she's ever mentioned again after this case

The thing about SMB3 having no bad levels is honestly true - I was thinking about doing a ranking of every SMB3 level and the candidates for the bottom ranking aren't even bad, they're just sort of boring/not executed in a very exciting way (5-7 and 6-F1 are examples that come to mind)

MrSmartGuy posted...

1.9/10

0.5 points alone for the shot of Ryunosuke freaking out, wishing there was someone on his side, only to pan over and see Sholmes hanging onto a coat hook wearing a tiara.

This except it's like +3 points for me

5/10

It's the Herlock Sholmes show! That's... basically it. I kinda like the cramped nature of this mystery being in one tiny little corridor on a boat, and again, it's great development for both Ryunosuke and Susato and a good way to introduce them to each other. But yeah, it's really the Herlock Sholmes show, and... well, honestly, he alone does kind of make this case worth it, imo? It has TWO dances of deduction! Kinda like divination seances, those always provide major added value because they're just so good. Even though this case has no trial segments and the murder is, frankly, stupid, I feel I can't justify giving this worse than a 5/10 because of the interactions of the main cast alone. Both Susato and Sholmes are in peak form in their debuts (yeah I know Susato is in the first case but not really).

oh wait, I see, the 11th placers took the bottom 5 spots. I don't really like that way of doing things

Wait, how are the rankings determined? It's not like Yamask had the second-lowest score of round 1

GAAC is a weird game in general for me in that the game feels greater than the sum of its parts - like, the overall presentation, the character animations, etc are just of a completely different class compared to every other AA game and that's a big part of the game's appeal, but none of either game's cases make it into my top ten based on their actual content (one of them is my #11 case but still).

Donkey Kong Country (Super Nintendo)
Darkstalkers: The Night Warriors (Arcade)
Wario's Woods (NES, SNES)
Tekken (Arcade)

I'm redoing my favorites list and Brionne ended up in 4th place

it's no secret that I love Zelda 1

It's kind of insane how much better Mario/Zelda/Metroid were than like... every other contemporary game of their time. sorry, video games sucked until the NES

Golisopod/Mimikyu
Sharpedo/Feraligatr
Rayquaza/Coalossal
Quaxly/Chi-Yu

I've always personally felt that gen 5 has a really high ceiling and a really low floor. There's a bunch of mons I love and a bunch of mons I hate in gen 5

andylt posted...

lmao did this seriously happen, amazing

I've never heard this story before either and wow it really fuels the imagination; like, I want to know what Top Man's stage looked like BEFORE it had to be rebuilt and how close it was, the stage is probably one of the more dull of the first 8 stages but it's not that bad

Oh Gen 9 actually did better than 5/7/8, lol me

I haven't really been collecting any cool stats unfortunately but I think it's extremely safe to say that gen 1 had the most advance and gen 9 had the fewest

Mega Man 3 is such a weird game. It clearly has bigger polish problems than the games surrounding it, but the fundamentals of the game are just so strong that it doesn't even matter a lot of the time. It could have been a GOAT game if a few of the remaining issues were ironed out.

6/10

It's a really solid intro case that loses a point for me for the fact that the final act, with the whole plate swapping thing, is one of the worst segments ever. I knew what happened immediately and thought it was going to take one contradiction to point out but no, we had to bring the witnesses back in and everything for it and it just got interminable. Up to that point it was a solid 7/10! But no.

Other than that, like, this case is remarkably good up until then imo, sincerely bordering on "best case in the game" material. Like, the murder mystery is pretty cool and has some interesting tricks, Jezaille Brett is a fun villain, and Ryunosuke is SO MUCH FUN here and his development is great. Ryunosuke really makes the first game.

Out of all the things about an Ace Attorney case that can be good or bad, the quality of that case's specific cast has probably the closest correlation to whether or not I like a case. There's a few exceptions but yeah. Like, G1-4 also has a terrible cast and I hate that case lol, but Soseki did grow on me a bit so it's not the worst.

Leonhart4 posted...

I wonder if people will retroactively become more okay with this if we ever get AA7

It's possible I'll soften on this case slightly in the future. I don't think anything will ever stop it from being the most forgettable case in the series, and the fact that it's the most forgettable case in the series WHILE ALSO BEING THE MOST RECENT is its greatest sin, so maybe when it fades into the background more it'll be less of a big deal - but honestly, no, this case genuinely has my least favorite cast in the series, so I think it's always going to be at or near the bottom

X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse (Super Nintendo)
Super Punch-Out!! (Super Nintendo)
System Shock (PC)
Doom II: Hell on Earth (PC)

I think there's maybe reason to be concerned if you wanted to play it on PS4, but otherwise I don't think there's reason to be concerned

I do appreciate when people have differing opinions on the cases I hate btw, I'd rather feel that way about this one

The tweet says it's the PS4 version only, which would make a lot more sense

I don't think this game is canceled, I think you're jumping the gun

I just realized that the current top 5 cases are the SAME as my top 5, and #6-10 are the SAME as my #6-10! Not in exactly the same order, but EXTREMELY close. It's not that much of a shock that the cases I think are the best are also the ones that everyone else thinks is the best (and my own votes do affect the outcomes) but I didn't expect THAT level of uniformity. I do think this'll change when we get to G2-3 and G2-5 though (my #11 and #13 favorite cases respectively, yeah GAA sadly just missed cracking my top 10 as a duology)

-hotdogturtle-- posted...

Kleavor is disliked? I thought that people here would eat it up.

I considered making it a dud too, I just like Farigiraf more lol

Let's get these up here real quick why don't we?

G-Max Steelsurge Division
53 Garchomp
41 Piplup
12 Miltank
7 Clawitzer
1 Frogadier
-1 Rufflet
-7 Farigiraf
-9 Kleavor
-29 Lumineon
-30 Bronzor
-38 Skwovet

Horn Leech Division
45 Decidueye
29 Lycanroc
21 Talonflame
7 Heliolisk
3 Salazzle
2 Marshadow
0 Bronzong
-14 Quaquaval
-20 Lileep
-26 Foongus
-37 Probopass

Star of the Day: Lumineon
Oh sure, it got eliminated, but it managed to not take last place or even second to last place! (Nothing had a performance today that I find notable. Okay fine whatever give it to Garchomp)

Dud of the Day: Farigiraf
I kinda figured people would like this guy more but not every long-needed evolution is a hit.

Piplup had no negative votes btw, yay.

That's it for round 1! Honestly, round 1 is easily my favorite round, so I'm sad that it's over, especially since I think all of my remaining favorites will probably eat shit in the next round. I'll miss filling out these +/- ballots for everyone!

Also yes, that means I rated this game's cases the following: 3 7 9 9 10 1

what a contrast

It just occurred to me that this case makes me feel the way 2-3 and 4-3 makes everyone else feel

1/10

The more I think about this case the more it pisses me off, lol. It's a very strong contender with 4-4 and G1-4 for my least favorite case in the series. It's especially disappointing given that the previous game's DLC case was a 10/10 for me, and the previous case in this game was a 10/10 - they just couldn't be further apart in my rankings. Literally two of my top 4 there and then one of my bottom 3.

It just feels like it was written by amateurs. The cast is so terrible and flat that it's completely unworthy of the series. Ellen Wyatt, Sorin Sprocket, and Pierce Nichody all probably make my bottom 10 AA characters list - each one of them is a complete black hole of charisma in a way that's frankly shocking. Larry's return is also depressing - he hasn't changed a bit, in a bad way. He's only become more flanderized since the way he was in AA1. At the beginning of the case I thought maybe he actually found someone he liked who liked him back, good for him! Instead he's just more insane than ever. I hate Larry in this case, and I've never hated him before. It sucks.

The murder is mindnumbingly boring and forgettable. They were really trying to make the 'time travel' twist work but they had to force it super hard with the whole two ceremonies thing - I GUESS this could have been an interesting idea but it just... wasn't? It's super convoluted and doesn't really make sense as a way to trick Sorin at the end of the day. The airship could have been a cool location for a murder I guess but it's somehow not interesting and the steampunk vibes of this case are just bizarre.

The only redeeming quality of this case WOULD be the return of Maya as the sidekick and Edgeworth as the prosecutor but it's honestly just depressing. Like, THIS is what they returned for? This godawful, boring case? Again, it's unworthy of them. Edgeworth has never been the prosecutor of a more boring, lower-stakes case. Maya feels like she's just tagging along here for old time's sake. There's a real sense of the death of the series here, for me - like, oh, we're just reminiscing about how things used to be, but they can't go back to being that way anymore. Everyone feels old here. It's such a depressing vibe after the rest of the game ACTUALLY revives the old magic of the series. I hate it.

The more I rant about this case the more I realize it's easily my least favorite! Every other bad case has some redeeming quality to it that I really like. This has nothing. It just makes me sad.

I didn't submit a list either, I couldn't come up with enough titles.

Mega Man 5 has always been the definitive Mega Man of the 4-6 trilogy to me. It plays incredibly smoothly, the music is some of the best in the series, and the level designs are just top notch - all of this stuff is markedly better than in 4 or 6 imo. Every time I play MM5 it feels fresh all over again. I think it might be the most polished and well designed Mega Man ever - it really feels like they knew what they were doing at every step in the process after making four of these things. Just an incredibly fun and accessible game. I think it's a little too easy, especially the bosses, but that's a fairly minor complaint.

My favorite fun fact about Super Mario Bros 2 is that is ACTUALLY DID begin its development as a Mario sequel before getting reskinned to Doki Doki Panic and then reskinned back into a Mario game. So instead of "did you know SMB2 was originally a game called Doki Doki Panic?" it's actually "did you know Doki Doki Panic was originally a Mario game?"

Sparkster (Super Nintendo)
Mega Man Soccer (Super Nintendo)
Donkey Kong (Game Boy)
Monster World IV (Sega Genesis)

Notably not my comment as I made fun of the idea that Flamigo's name sucks lol

Bellibolt is literally the only mon in that division I don't like, I'm shocked that it survived elimination lol

Pidgey landed basically where I expected. Like, it's just Pidgey

MZero posted...

Also a -6 for Pidgey is pretty duddy imo

Yeah I dunno, it's just Pidgey

Blaziken posted...

G-MAX STEELSURGE
+3 Garchomp
+2 Miltank
+1 Farigiraf
-1 Lumineon
-2 Bronzong
-3 Rufflet

HORN LEECH
+3 Salazzle
+2 Lycanroc
+1 Decidueye
-1 Foongus
-2 Lileep
-3 Bronzong

Holy shit this literally had my three favorite Alola Pokemon, all of which are top fifteen for me, and I also can't give positives to Talonflame, Heliolisk or Quaquaval as a result. This division is the most overly stacked all contest, holy shit.

I'm going to assume you meant Bronzor in that first ballot (after all, recently I changed a Metagross vote to Magnezone and this is WAY less of a stretch) but you guys are really killing me with the misvotes lately lol

Reversal Division
54 Dragonite
26 Flamigo
21 Lurantis
9 Golem
5 Magnemite
2 Solrock
1 Cradily
-6 Pidgey
-18 Eternatus
-31 Indeedee
-63 Yungoos

Sacred Fire Division
47 Articuno
22 Meowstic
21 Buizel
16 Kingler
1 Nihilego
-10 Raboot
-10 Sizzlipede
-13 Bellibolt
-16 Tentacool
-26 Wimpod
-32 Combee

Star of the Day: Flamigo
Neither obvious gen 1 titan set the world on fire here, so our biggest surprise from the others probably goes to Flamigo, who I guess probably benefits from being like the most overpowered early-game mon ever!

Dud of the Day: Articuno
Dare I be so controversial to award dud to a division winner? I really felt like Articuno didn't reach the 60+ total I was expecting it to today. Nothing else really sucked today (except maybe Combee who I'm kinda surprised did so badly) so yeah.

To be fair I do like everything in Night Daze aside from the bottom 2