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MedeaLysistrata posted...

would you prefer a coke or rootbeer float?

Today feels like a classic rootbeer day

ROBANN_88 posted...

so this is how they do that "zoom in and enhance" on NCIS?

Haha

Ok soup or sex 420

ah the ez500 club

where the fuck do you live that chipotle is your best option so I never move there.

hows her ass

itachi15243 posted...

From what I understand the phone just has ai add in some of the detail and other such stuff to make the picture better.

I'm gonna try this with my s22+ tonight though. I never heard of space zoom before.

The algorithm sells itself as a supersampler that is able to recover detail, but it's actually a generator making up detail that wasn't there.

I would tell elon musk to go back to africa.

Isn't it bonkers that they didn't do more with the online stuff?

one is what you have in your step, one is what CEsers demand when they disagree with you, one is what happens when you see something you thought was lost.

(stolen from reddit)

Many of us have witnessed the breathtaking moon photos taken with the latest zoom lenses, starting with the S20 Ultra. Nevertheless, I've always had doubts about their authenticity, as they appear almost too perfect. While these images are not necessarily outright fabrications, neither are they entirely genuine. Let me explain.
There have been many threads on this, and many people believe that the moon photos are real (inputmag) - even MKBHD has claimed in this popular youtube short https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P1VRs68Cqo that the moon is not an overlay, like Huawei has been accused of in the past. But he's not correct. So, while many have tried to prove that Samsung fakes the moon shots, I think nobody succeeded - until now.

WHAT I DID

1. I downloaded this high-res image of the moon from the internet - https://imgur.com/PIAjVKp
2. I downsized it to 170x170 pixels and applied a gaussian blur, so that all the detail is GONE. This means it's not recoverable, the information is just not there, it's digitally blurred: https://imgur.com/xEyLajW

And a 4x upscaled version so that you can better appreciate the blur: https://imgur.com/3STX9mZ
3) I full-screened the image on my monitor (showing it at 170x170 pixels, blurred), moved to the other end of the room, and turned off all the lights. Zoomed into the monitor and voila - https://imgur.com/ifIHr3S
4) This is the image I got - https://imgur.com/bXJOZgI
INTERPRETATION
To put it into perspective, here is a side by side: https://imgur.com/ULVX933
In the side-by-side above, I hope you can appreciate that Samsung is leveraging an AI model to put craters and other details on places which were just a blurry mess. And I have to stress this: there's a difference between additional processing a la super-resolution, when multiple frames are combined to recover detail which would otherwise be lost, and this, where you have a specific AI model trained on a set of moon images, in order to recognize the moon and slap on the moon texture on it (when there is no detail to recover in the first place, as in this experiment). This is not the same kind of processing that is done when you're zooming into something else, when those multiple exposures and different data from each frame account to something. This is specific to the moon.
CONCLUSION
The moon pictures from Samsung are fake. Samsung's marketing is deceptive. It is adding detail where there is none (in this experiment, it was intentionally removed). In this article(https://tinyurl.com/57kwtbty), they mention multi-frames, multi-exposures, but the reality is, it's AI doing most of the work, not the optics, the optics aren't capable of resolving the detail that you see. Since the moon is tidally locked to the Earth, it's very easy to train your model on other moon images and just slap that texture when a moon-like thing is detected.
Now, Samsung does say "No image overlaying or texture effects are applied when taking a photo, because that would cause similar objects to share the same texture patterns if an object detection were to be confused by the Scene Optimizer.", which might be technically true - you're not applying any texture if you have an AI model that applies the texture as a part of the process, but in reality and without all the tech jargon, that's that's happening. It's a texture of the moon.
If you turn off "scene optimizer", you get the actual picture of the moon, which is a blurry mess (as it should be, given the optics and sensor that are used).
To further drive home my point, I blurred the moon even further and clipped the highlights, which means the area which is above 216 in brightness gets clipped to pure white - there's no detail there, just a white blob - https://imgur.com/9XMgt06
I zoomed in on the monitor showing that image and, guess what, again you see slapped on detail, even in the parts I explicitly clipped (made completely 100% white): https://imgur.com/9kichAp
TL:DR Samsung is using AI/ML (neural network trained on 100s of images of the moon) to recover/add the texture of the moon on your moon pictures, and while some think that's your camera's capability, it's actually not. And it's not sharpening, it's not adding detail from multiple frames because in this experiment, all the frames contain the same amount of detail. None of the frames have the craters etc. because they're intentionally blurred, yet the camera somehow miraculously knows that they are there. And don't even get me started on the motion interpolation on their "super slow-mo", maybe that's another post in the future..
New test - I photoshopped one moon next to another (to see if one moon would get the AI treatment, while another not), and managed to coax the AI to do exactly that.
This is the image that I used, which contains 2 blurred moons: https://imgur.com/kMv1XAx
I replicated my original setup, shot the monitor from across the room, and got this: https://imgur.com/RSHAz1l
As you can see, one moon got the "AI enhancement", while the other one shows what was actually visible to the sensor.

It's a good thing people don't let their sharks run around loose on the streets.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Chronic sexual violation of the produce section at the grocery store

I forgot where mabus' name comes from so I'll just say yogurt culture smuggling.

AceMos posted...

no reason to trust the cops they likely found them then deleted them

why

Dakimakura posted...

Is that April's underwear?

god damn it now I am crying. from laughing.

A sanctuary for whom

what the heck did you say to me

I see this board as a recroom in a retirement home with a bunch of old putzes arguing over every damn thing.

InTheEyesOfFire posted...

Chrono Cross

Crimsoness posted...

One of the dumbest parts of Chrono Cross

whoah I must have blocked it from memory. I definitely played that game.

Nukazie posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/6/AAWYnXAAELgu.jpg
which includes humans too

What's that from?

Smallville posted...

why though?

because the name is badass

andel posted...

the only way people can justify their irrational hatred of an entire dog breed is by citing statistics without bothering to look at any context...kinda like the exact tactic racists use.

yikes

hellcat redeye

But he's ok with HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA?

Change your name to boomer_art.

Bro this is a the face of a four year old.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/3/7/AAcTOIAAERIR.jpg

It was a novelty game.

I would move to a better neighborhood if I were you.

My favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkN-NcU-V48

"Chthonic (sometimes typeset ChthoniC or ChThoniC) is a Taiwanese heavy metal band, formed in 1995 in Taipei. They have been called "the Black Sabbath of Asia."[4][5] The group incorporates influences from traditional Taiwanese music, including adaptations of folk songs and the use of traditional instruments, most notably the erhu (often called the hin- [] in the band's native Taiwanese Hokkien).[6] Their stated goal is to use their music to bring ancient history and mythology into the modern era especially to build awareness of the myths of Taiwan and tragic events in that country's history (for example, those experienced by the Seediq people).[7]
Since 2011 their trademark erhu has been complemented with stringed instruments including the koto and shamisen, as well as Tibetan Bells and shakuhachi and pgaki flutes, the latter of which are traditionally used by the aboriginal people of Taiwan.[8] The band members are also acclaimed artists and political activists who advocate independence for Taiwan and self-determination for Tibetans and Uighurs. Singer Freddy Lim served as Chairman of the Taiwan chapter of Amnesty International from 2010 to 2014 and has been a legislator since 2016, first representing the New Power Party before becoming an independent. Since their formation, Chthonic has released eight studio albums. The most recent of which, Battlefields of Asura, was released in October 2018."

Fuck. No.

I always thought megamanfreakxd was chill.

a-c-a-b posted...

Carcass - Keep on Rotting in the Free World

https://youtu.be/4R_RavpIGxo

aww yeaah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caH39AKFmrE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4oJNVa7o8

That's hilarious

Ok I dont know what glad you came is but I'll do it.

WolfFangHowell posted...

This is a great example of something an edgy teen would post if edgy teens were allowed on gamefaqs.

This is a great example of something an incontinent boomer would post if boomers knew how to post on gamefaqs.

Heartomaton posted...

The mainline Bayonetta games are combo-based beat 'em up adventure games like Devil May Cry, so they're waaay different than this... puzzle-platformer? Whatever it is.

And the only Bayonetta game that's not Nintendo-exclusive is the original, which is on PS3 and Xbox 360 natively, but has since been ported to the Wii U and Switch in the years since. Bayonetta 2 and 3, as well as this spin-off, are Nintendo only.

BakonBitz posted...

This one's wildly different. Bayonetta's usually like DMC.

ah ok got it. Unfortunately do not have a switch.

That looks cozy. I've never played a Bayonetta game. Are they all like that? Are they Nintendo exclusive?

I'm sure everyone that ever hit anybody would like the victim to move on. I think it's great if Chris Rock can make some money off of this and speak out on it at the same time. Don't hit people.

This is a great example of something a toddler would post if toddlers were allowed on gamefaqs.

But I love bees.

Also I am guilty of not being brave enough to get off of the amazon nipple even though it is an awful company so I understand people having a hard time letting go.