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KogaSteelfang posted...

The way I see it there's only 2 options here. Blame them, or blame myself. There's 1 common denominator here and it's me. I think I probably have the same bitterness and hate as most incels, it's just focused inward instead.

Maybe, but accepting me doesn't mean that they'd want to be with me. Everyone else being able to find someone is what makes me feel inferior. I'd very much like to just be an equal.

Even your relatively late start is at least a start. You managed to find someone who wanted to be with you.

I simply don't have this. I'll try for like 5-6 months in dating apps, and that failure added to the rest wears me down. Like I said, I can't even get a date. How am I supposed to manage anything more?

As the above poster said, I would try with a prostitute just to at least experience the logistics of the whole thing. It'll all feel less impossible moving forward.

The girl would probably be a lot more caring than you think as well. They're still people. Just be respectful.

KogaSteelfang posted...

A couple of issues here. IDK how I'm supposed to pursue a relationship when I can't even get a date. Also, I'm fairly certain that I'm demisexual, at least partially I think. There is no attraction until I grow close to someone first. Well, I do sometimes get crushes on people, but it only goes beyond that if I get to know them and like them.

I don't have many options. I don't think most people realize that. They always have options, and opportunities, and have people interested in them and can't understand when a person simply has none of that.

I've met a few. But honestly, you'd have to ask them. I've been told that quite a few times, with people thinking it'd give me hope rather than make me feel inferior to said "fat ugly guy."

It's the self awareness you're showing that my client lacks. He is full of hate and blame for others. I don't think you realise how many women out there would genuinely accept you rather than make it seem like you're less than them.

I say this as a 32 year old who lost it at 28. Dating apps and perseverance.

KogaSteelfang posted...

I have no interest in seeing a prostitute whatsoever, but this still feels like a punch in the gut. About the same as it feels someone tells me "I know a really fat ugly guy that gets laid all the time." Just makes me feel like they're more desirable than me.

I know I shouldn't feel that way over someone using prostitutes, maybe it was how it was phrases but it still hit.

I haven't met you, but I guarantee you're more desirable than this guy. Even within the brothel he goes to he's been barred from seeing a few of them because he was rude to some of the larger women. Like he's set a low bar.

I'm a disability support worker for I kid you not, the absolute poster boy for incels. He has even invented a term, "couples rage" to describe the anger he feels when he sees happy couples in public. He's 50 and miserable.... And he's still been laid 100x thanks to prostitutes.

Nobody should get to 40 as a virgin without at least dabbling with a prostitute

In his case due to his mental illness it hasn't improved his mindset long term, but for most people I think it would

StealThisSheen posted...

I'm just gonna say this: If you find yourself defending a user that uses "woke" unironically, for example, you may want to reflect on why people are getting on their case, and why it might not be a good idea to jump to their defense. Often, there's a reason why certain users here are treated how they're treated.

I don't recall him using that term or any dumb buzzwords in that post. I had a strong impression he just wanted to generate discussion, not necessarily agreement, but not a vicious argument

StealThisSheen posted...

This is the problem. You call it bullying, when it isn't.

The last topic we argued in, you were literally defending somebody who said diversity in media is bad, and you said the same thing, there. "Well, everybody was dogpiling, so I defended him."

Do you know WHY everybody was dogpiling them? Because they were spouting alt right rhetoric and saying diversity was bad! People getting on their case weren't bullying them, they were rightfully calling them out for a terrible argument, yet you defended them, anyway.

Like DnD said above: Playing devil's advocate means you're advocating for the devil. There's a time and place, and, well... 99% of the time, when you do it, it's not the time or the place. You're just randomly defending somebody with horrible opinions. And when you do it as much as you do, it makes it seem like you just literally hold those thoughts and viewpoints, too.

That's such a simplification of his post. He raised a point in a "what do we think of this" type way, maybe his language and tone leaned 55-45 to the right wing perspective or whatever

Sometimes IRL I do that to get a more impassioned answer from my friends and I thought I saw that in his post

But I don't think it ever warrants personal attacks.

DnDer posted...

The problem with a devil's advocate is that he advocates for the devil.

Yes. This problem extends beyond CE, my friends have told me IRL when people don't know me that well yet they can get the wrong idea about me. I will try to be sincere (or whatever the correct word is, I felt sincere in my posts while making them) moving forward

StealThisSheen posted...

Also, just to spell it out: I know you're not specialkid, but you might as well be. That's the entire point. You take up for the worst people, willingly, all because "I must fight the majority!" That's dumb.

Okay, thank you. It might have seemed obviously tongue in cheek to you but I really thought the accusations I was an alt were actual accusations.

I can see how it looks to you, but to me you're simplifying the issue. I have a personal hatred of bullying, have devoted my whole life to stopping it, and when I see a certain level of vitriol my brain jumps to a certain place

Honestly, if CE became a more right wing leaning board and dogpiling situations were inverse, I'd probably be in your good books because you'd see me defending atheists from Christians and anti gun people from gun owners

StealThisSheen posted...

You aren't even denying what I said, you're just attempting to defend it.

You play devil's advocate for literal racist and homophobic users, who regularly get suspended. You've earned the reputation you have.

Omg I'm not entertaining your bullshit I must be a horrible person

Can you at least admit you don't actually think I'm that dudes alt? Put yourself in my shoes for a second.

StealThisSheen posted...

You, quite literally, choose to defend racists and homophobes simply because "I always defend the 1 in a 10 v 1!"

You have no room to talk.

No, I can see a potentially edgy at worst and poorly explained opinion at best get treated like the person killed a puppy before making the topic

I can't make you see my perspective but just know I'm nobody's alt.

StealThisSheen posted...

Whatever you say, specialkid.

By your logic I should be this TC's alt too right? Since I made a single post defending him

Really gross behaviour by you tbh

StealThisSheen posted...

Are you gonna just block me, yet, or are you gonna keep whining in every topic since I disagreed with you once or twice?

Talk about a pot calling the kettle black

StealThisSheen posted...

Oh, trust me, we know you use this excuse, since you routinely defend alt righters under the guise of "you guys dog piled them!"

I just can recognise misdirected anger when I see it.

VeggetaX posted...

Why do you feel you need to prove anything to him? Just don't engage with people who think their opinions are so profound and act like some gatekeepers of morality.

I agreed with his take on the other topic about the skateboarder and the car. I didn't even realise we had a feud going lol. But I take your point

StealThisSheen posted...

I mean, we already know your take on things, specialkid.

Oh wow you actually still think I'm that dudes alt even with the way that topic ended up going.

Is there anyway for a mod to like, prove me and this other random dude who I hadn't heard of before that day aren't alts?

I like defending people when it's 10 on 1. Deal with it

StealThisSheen posted...

It's weird how certain users seem desperate to defend a poster with a very bad faith history.

Well, I guess it's not that weird, seeing who they are, but...

Even the term "bad faith" can be completely weaponised online though

I've been on CE way too long to trust the dog piling users like to do in these situations comes from "good faith".

We're all pretty miserable IMO and some of us like to vent on easy targets

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That last sentence is true, but it doesn't warrant/justify the extremely vicious reactions CE likes to give when they know they can get away with it

On the question of who is more toxic, it's obvious

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

people can still walk out of an accident due to shock/adrenaline not realizing how broken they are

Yeah my first thought too, the fact he's walking doesn't mean he doesn't have internal bleeding somewhere. It depends how clean his exit of the vehicle was, the landing looked relatively harmless

StealThisSheen posted...

The driver quite literally has the right of way. "Hold on, I want to film this tiktok stunt" is not a reason for anybody to have to act against normal traffic laws. Would you just stop and wait if some random dude told you to, when you have no idea what's even happening? Imagine literally trying to blame the driver for this.

This basically. Don't even need to watch the video to have empathy for the driver lol. I'm constantly giving up my legal right of way to pedestrians who feel like jaywalking. Over it

I don't know how some of you function in the real world with hair trigger tempers

Every opinion not worded perfectly is an unforgiveable one

hockeybabe89 posted...

Because everybody would be able to be out without having to agonize over it

Yes. That is what I was inferring.

I do understand TCs point and am not the least bit surprised they're LGBT themselves

There are valid reasons for still needing to "come out" but hopefully in a few decades there won't be.

I remember when I worked retail at like 19 being shocked at how much easier the bosses' day seemed then anyone else for how much extra pay they got. They just chilled in the office all day sending emails until there was a customer issue on the floor we couldn't handle ourselves (like authorising a discount)

Never saw him have to try and sell something to a customer or carry heavy stock around. It was a camping, fishing and BBQ store too, so there was a lot of heavy lifting and salesmanship

It's been proven waking up early, getting a good breakfast in, getting outside just after sunrise on your way to work etc is good for your mental health

I'm a lazy slob and night owl myself but I'm under no delusions morning people are probably smarter than me for having their life structured that way

Will you end up blind?

Falcon punch

Master Chief

I've loved Temple of Doom since I was a kid. It reminded me of the Mummy, another movie I love

The Last Crusade is the boring one

I was hurt a lot by the insult "yes man" once by a girl I was dating. Especially because I didn't have strong opinion one way or the other on the subject being discussed when she called me that (deciding where to eat)

But even that is only because she knew me well. A stranger calling me that means nothing

It also helps if you don't care that much about the idea of being masculine= good and feminine= bad

STEROLIZER posted...

That I agree. But Simp is usually reserved for

1. weird internet stalkers, that just dedicate an absorbent amount of time to praising a woman (might even be fictional) theyll never ever meet
2. men who spend way too much money (or free labor) on models and influencers under the deluded assumption that one day theyll fall madly in love with them

Or at least thats how I view the term. So in my mind if someone calls me a simp they are calling me a person with no self-respect, or a sorry excuse for a man

Which a lot of people aren't guilty of, so the insult's power is considerably weakened

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Taker and HBK both definitely were. Could see Triple H being so as well due to him being the ultimate capitalist (well, after Vince)

If this was his way of saying "I'm sick of being blasted by one side of the country on twitter, it's fucking with my peace, so I'll just keep my opinions to myself" it'd have been better just not saying anything. Now it looks like he's saying it for his brand rather than his mental health

I do think everyone has the right to remove themselves from something that makes them upset and nobody is obligated to use their platform and stand up on a soap box if they don't want to

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xbox/558597-midtown-madness-3/faqs

I submitted a FAQ to this website as a 12 year old lol. It's a trip to read it back. Surprised it ever got accepted

I'm surprised they'd even want one

TuxedoCyan posted...

Oh it's definitely never going to happen. I've never made a single attempt in the last 24 years to even try talking to or meeting women and I don't plan on ever trying in the future. I refuse to use dating apps. I have no friends and zero social life. I haven't done anything considered social in over 24 years. The last girl I talked to was when I was 18 and she had a huge crush on me and I was just too scared to ask her to be my girlfriend even though I was 99% sure she would have said yes. Shit happens or doesn't.

Fuck bro. I was literally you til 26. I know that's different to 40 but It's never too late. Watch 40 year old virgin for a surprisingly sweet and mature outlook at the situation (beneath the comedy)

nocturnal_traveler posted...

Some of the back and forth in this topic definitely proves that not telling is best. There are exceptions, as some have shown, but it's best not to take the risk.

So... Lie? Seems short sighted.

bsp77 posted...

I have wondered that too. Maybe my 16 should be 18 to 20, depending on what counts. The thing is that those outside the 16 I don't want to count. I was very drunk and stupid.

I guess I'm bias as one of my "three" involved only oral sex. So I want it to count haha. Funnily enough I had the most bedroom chemistry with her too.

Yep. I learnt pretty early on it was my favourite position. It's the easiest to feel "good" at sex, if that makes sense. It's cavemen style, not much thought needed ya know. Helps that I'm an assman too.

Super_Slash posted...

4 women. I'm 31.

My first was at a massage parlor, and then the three partners I've had. Also fingered a former friend and she sucked me off but we didn't have sex. If that counts then it's 5.

I'd count that last one. The whole "sex needs penile-vagina penetration to count" is kinda dumb. How do lesbians calculate a body count?

TuxedoCyan posted...

I'm 42 years old and at zero. I wouldn't be without someone unless they are also at zero and around my age. Even if it means being alone the rest of my life. It's that important to me. Good thing I'm content being alone forever.

The person I did lose my virginity too, at 26, had been with a lot of people before me and ended up smitten with me, and I was the one who ended it.

That's not a flex, as the next 2 girls broke my heart. I'm usually the one picking up the pieces. But it is some evidence that a body count has nothing to do with the ability to commit, trust and love, if that's your concern.

Guide posted...

I only value tact as a means of handling other people. It's just a kind of manipulation considered to be polite. I prefer direct honesty if it comes to things I actually care about.

Fair enough. There are ways of being direct without throwing shade though. Like it felt like on some level she was trying to bring me down a bit, for no reason.

It's not like I didn't already know it's "unusual" or atypical or whatever. If that makes sense. Tone is everything.

bigblu89 posted...

Shit, I'm 46, and my number is 3.

Granted, I got married at 25 to my wife who I met when I was 19 and the number was 3.

bsp77 posted...

My number was 1 when I separated from my ex wife at 39

She already knew I hadn't been in an LTR before as we touched on the subject before we met on tinder.

So the whole thing carried some unnecessary venom. It was just a stark reminder that some people really don't value tact anymore

It was also just like, fuck. Surely any potential red flags around a sexually inexperienced person would be if they're whining, blaming others or making it someone else's problem and I was trying so hard to not do that. I think she just put me in a box in her mind as a certain type of guy.

Glob posted...

I get it. I was just responding to the other user who said you should be proud.

Okay, sorry. Sensitive subject for me and I misinterpreted your post

Glob posted...

I agree that they shouldnt feel bad about it. Nothing wrong with it at all.

I dont see why it should be a source of pride though.

It wasn't a source of pride, I am attracted to sexually experienced women. I'm just a shy guy myself so the number is low.

But she made it seem like something I sort of had to explain, sorta hinted it was maybe a red flag ya know. I guess it was the way she said "unusual".

It just came across very unnecessary for someone who clearly considered themselves open minded. Hard to explain without being a fly on the wall for the conversation. Basically she made me insecure about something I wasn't before, for no reason. I think she also must have felt I was proud of it just because I answered without any further explanation.

I was told on a date my number was "unusual" as it was only 3 when I was 28. There was no need for it, she asked, I answered, and got that response. I guess it was her attempt at "banter".

I also wouldn't have judged her number whatever it was. Dating is fucking hard these days

BucketCat posted...

"let's fuck"

Lol

Was hot dog flavoured water a reference to urine? Is it urine flavoured?

Master_Kazuya posted...

I think it has something to do with not regretting who you did it with

I literally don't get post nut clarity for this reason

If I'm on the fence about if I like a girl or not, having sex with them doesn't seem like the best idea. I dunno how to explain it too well, but I think the very first time I slept with a girl I saw zero future with I immediately realised it's an unfair way to date

Zikten posted...

Same. I can't understand people who aren't bothered by it

Add in another amen to this

Amber Reyne used to be absolute favourites. Haven't even looked at one vid of hers since she passed