again we're brought to minors. if a 10 year old wants to jump his 20 year old teacher he is not capable of giving consent, legally. it would be rape on her end. same deal here. you can use it with a person on drugs too, the situation doesn't really change. there's no reason why it wouldn't be considered rape.
This is a good point, but parents also probably don't want their 10 year old kid having sex with someone else's 10 year old kid. It's a good argument that a dog can never be truly mentally mature, but we still allow dogs to breed with each other, so I still think there's an argument to be had. I will concede that a 10 year old kid wanting a 20 year old teacher doesn't make those relations "right", though, and if applied to beastiality, that might be the nail in the coffin.
the uncle/niece situation though is definitely a weird one because of conditioning more than anything else. it's not even the relationship as much as the older party can abuse their authority to create a setting where they're gifting the kid to make them 'fall for them.' this is a definite known form of abuse, but if you look at the adult equivalent of it (which is really no different) then it's still legal there. so while it can be messed up.... the law really shouldn't involve itself too deeply there, if at all.
The "position of power" argument is one I agree with, and actually it could probably be applied to the pet-owner thing too. If someone specifically trains an animal for inter-racial sexual relations, that seems like a similar situation to me. I just feel like, hypothetically, if a male dog is released into a breeding environment containing female dogs and female humans, and it ends up having sex with the humans sometimes, it is making an active choice.
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