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TopicSCOTUS to hear arguments for Trump ballot eligibility. Long line for seating.
s0nicfan
02/08/24 5:07:34 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
The Colorado court found him guilty of an insurrection.

This idea that he hasn't been found guilty is asinine, there was an entire case around this, that's what led to him being removed from the ballot.

They didn't is the problem. The Colorado court ruled on a lawsuit. That isn't the same as a trial. In that exact lawsuit the judge also rules that the state didn't actually have the right to take him off the ballot:
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/18/1213961050/colorado-judge-finds-trump-engaged-in-insurrection-but-keeps-him-on-ballot
DENVER A Colorado judge on Friday found that former President Donald Trump engaged in insurrection during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol but rejected an effort to keep him off the state's primary ballot because it's unclear whether a Civil War-era Constitutional amendment barring insurrectionists from public office applies to the presidency.

The lawsuit, brought by a left-leaning group on behalf of a group of Republican and independent Colorado voters, contended that Trump's actions related to the attack ran afoul of a clause in the 14th Amendment that prevents anyone from holding office who "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the Constitution.

This also becomes a problem for federal courts because other states have ruled the opposite, so it forces the SC to decide one standard to resolve these conflicting appeals.

To further clarify on the lawsuit vs trial, you need to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in a trial, where you only need to prove "a preponderance of the evidence" which means you believe the party is simply more likely guilty than not:
https://www.justia.com/trials-litigation/lawsuits-and-the-court-process/evidentiary-standards-and-burdens-of-proof/

The actual criminal trials don't have dates set yet, but you can track them here:
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

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