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Enclave posted...

My issue is the idiots who choose to blame other people for their own failed candidate. Hillary is a great example, so many even today blame Bernie for Trump beating her. You know who's fault it is that Hillary lost? Hillary Clinton, that's who's to blame. She did a poor job appealing to huge numbers of voters, completely ignored Michigan even to focus on Iowa and tried to get disaffected Republicans (which didn't work) and alienated more progressive voters.

If a politician needs certain groups to win? Then they should actually try to do SOMETHING to appeal to those groups instead of just saying "vote for me or else". That's not how you win votes and a lot of people on this site need to figure that out too. Trying to guilt trip people into voting for your candidate doesn't fucking work and can be counter productive. I always encourage people to vote for the Dem because Republicans are just SO much worse but holy shit it's the politicians to blame if they fail to appeal to the voters they need, it's not the people who are to blame.

You realize that multiple people can be at fault, right?

And it's laughable to say that she alienated progressive voters and courted republicans.

Wanted to make college free for most americans, reform immigration to give a path to citizenship, add a public option, gender equal pay, increase min wage. She wasn't Bernie but she was pretty far to the left on issues.

If you meet a progressive that sat out 2016, it's reasonable to ask what was more important that trying to get the person into office that is closer to them in ideals.