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LoZguy709 posted...

So in this hypothetical world, Bernie has a strong backing by people who are firmly left in the country, while alienating moderates to the point they can't be won back, thus guaranteeing a Republican win next time over?

Bernie's numbers would still outline his doom, yeah. The whole argument for Dems winning 2024 at all relies on Biden's polls just being inaccurate. If his numbers are real and stick then it's already over.

I just argue that they'd be higher since he'd have bled less of his original electorate.

LoZguy709 posted...

My inclination, though, is to think that Bernie is at no better a standpoint, and very likely a worse one due to his inability to work with a divided government, as compared to the situation we have currently.

Good point. But the only legislation that actually boosted Biden's numbers was the American Rescue Plan, which was emergency legislation that probably would've passed no matter what.

The possibility that Bernie just wouldn't have flipped Georgia, and therefore would've lacked any aligned Congress to get things done with, was raised, and it's plausible. But I'm reluctant to assume it since both Warnock and Ossoff won their run-off races even without Biden on the ballot to help them. Georgia seemed just about done with MAGA candidates period.

Doom_Art posted...

And Bernie keeps them?

He never had them lol. His support was composed by other types of voters. (some Dems, progressives, populists, etc.)

Doom_Art posted...

His initial favorability would be much lower than Biden's, though.

It statistically was not, though. Biden's peak 2020 primary period favorability was 46% while Bernie's peak 2020 primary period favorability was 47%, virtually the same. Biden shot way up to 50% in the months after Bernie dropped out but that's when he was the only option left against Trump.