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legendary_zell posted...

No one is saying that Trump would be better
No one is saying to vote for Trump
No one is saying that they're equivalent

What a substantial number of people are saying is that Biden's actions are sickening and unacceptable, no matter what the other guy did or did not do. You wanna talk about reality? Well the reality is that voting is an affirmative act and one that people tend not to do if they feel disgusted by the very thought of it. And genocide facilitation tends to make people feel that way.

Another key element of reality is that Democrats win when the President is someone to vote FOR, and they most often lose when it's considered crap vs crap. The administration's current policy is walking directly into that. It's what happened in 2000, what happened in 2004, and what happened in 2016.

You're presenting it as "adults" vs "petulant children" but hold your nose and vote for the genocider is a losing stance. You're only ever going to squeak by with that and then you'll wonder why you don't have the power to do anything useful. If you don't lose outright. You take pride in holding your nose, but for others, that's everything they hate about politics. You are a very small group of people in how you view politics. You think accepting perpetual complicity in horror is a sign of maturity, others see it as...horror.

You are very lucky people don't actually accept the same assumptions you do, because if they did, Republicans would never lose. People vote because they think something good might happen, not that they're locked into terrible things and are trying to show they're "mature" by voting for a lighter shade of black.

I totally get people not liking what Biden is doing right now, I'm among those people. I've absolutely seen on this very board try to cause discord by suggesting we should withhold our vote (Which only benefits Trump), to vote for a magical third party (Which only benefits Trump), or the they're willing to risk a Trump presidency to show Biden why he's wrong.

Of course there are non trolls who also just hate the senseless murder.

I get it. I really do. Politics are extra fucked right now. People are so gung-ho because if Trump wins, there won't be any elections to worry about. Because that's the end of democracy. If 1/6 never happened, if project 2025 wasn't a thing, if we weren't up against someone who literally reminds Holocaust survivors of Hitler, there would probably be a lot less pushback.

We're in panic mode, and Biden isn't helping. But it's not "holding your nose" for some people, because some people will absolutely not survive a Trump revenge tour.

I want Biden to not support genocide. If he loses to Trump though, there is going to be even more genocide. Promised and guaranteed.