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TopicPolitics Containment Topic Episode 446: The Empire Strikes Back
Wanglicious
11/07/24 11:59:56 AM
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Xeybozn posted...
You do realize that unless there's another country willing to let them in

in a lot of these cases there's a good dozen countries they could've gone to and no ocean in between.
they can pick one of those.

actual refugees are ok, those seeking better opportunities are not. especially true if it's from the Americas considering how big a hand we've had in there, that's totally fair game. i think most are fine with the idea of hey, a Venezuelan or Ecuadorian refugee as opposed to a refugee from Ukraine or somewhere in the middle east - geographically it makes sense. people also are actually okay if it's women, especially those with children. people are very not ok with single, working age men showing up at a scale of like 8:1. i remember for a sec Italy floated the idea of essentially going we'll take all the women and kids but the single men can fuck off back home, unironically i think that's the closest ticket you'll find people accept. as long as the kids don't have a whole ass beard and are already balding, anyway.

GranzonEx posted...
Got friends and family in NY that voted Trump because they don't want their small businesses to get robbed, or run into homeless encampments that drive traffic away. These friends and family are actually first generation immigrants that have been here for decades.

NYC had a notable shift to the right. 22% in the Bronx and Queens each, 10% in Manhattan, still looking for Brooklyn numbers but if it follows the trend it's gonna be another double digit shift. yeah she still won the city overall with 68% but Biden had 76%. Hillary had 78%. a lot of that first generation might've already voted for trump but many more did this go too. the second generation is what's coming out more in his favor because they're like "fuck, my parents were right."

basically you know that plan the border states had of going "fuck this, we're busing the migrants to the cities and see how they like it"? yeah, that's extremely effective. people see what's put in their neighborhoods and the quality instantly drop, they don't feel safe anymore, and these places often weren't that great to begin with. the richer ones sure as hell ain't supporting who arrived and migrants get kicked out of there, meaning it's again the working and lower class neighborhoods who get hit with this. speaking of which, some of the people in those categories do use city benefits, rightfully so as it's paid into taxes. coincidentally, there's been a strange uptick of difficulty to get benefits as the migration has gotten worse, it's practically inverse lines. but people notice the uptick of illegal immigrants well just in daily life, look no further than the sheer number of pedicabs here - French is the primary language with English being non-existent. it's a total scam in pricing. almost nobody uses them, if even 5% get a single customer in a day i'd be shocked. but somehow they just can't stop popping up.

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