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NatsuSama posted...

Whether he decided to run again or not has nothing to do with the fact that regardless if he did, it doesnt magically change.... if a left leaning individual decided to stay home or vote 3rd party.... it helped Trump in key states.

Regardless if you are madly in love with whoever ended up being the Democrat Primary winner..... either a Democrat or Trump was going to win. And just like in 2016, elections have consequences regardless if the Democrat primary winner isnt your ideal pure pick.

There is no "foremost" as there's plenty of blame to go around. Including the peft leaning non voters and 3rd party voters.

I'm aware there's a binary choice and I'm trying to explain to you that putting up a senile old guy on the Democrats' end is a baffling strategy. Their ability to attack Trump on similar ground was immediately capped, Biden was incapable of assuaging concerns about his age, and he had to maneuver a complicated economy with benefits & drawbacks where the drawbacks tended to be higher prices.

If he could've communicated this might've been fine but he was handled stage-to-stage by his inner circle. If this was all rapid onset it would've been unavoidable. But that's what I'm getting at: It was very avoidable considering criticisms on Biden's fitness for office existed among Democrats until he won the nomination and steered the debates competently.

But by 2023 the decision not to pull him was one made by his inner circle and it is the core reason Democrats lost. He was broadly unpopular, they ran him anyway, ignored evidence for months, and bitterly threw out Harris to mend things and now that she lost we're somehow still having a conversation implying "Actually the blame is deeply multifaceted and complex" like no, it really isn't, if you believe it is you might as well write off 2028. Maybe it would've been if Dems had a primary and lost anyways ala 1968 (which was a complex election) but we instead ran a far dumber version of that.

The public doesn't overall view things on such analytical terms or ideas and simple presentation matters. Biden failed comically at this. Running him was a bad idea, evidence from internal polls agreed. They ran him anyways, panicked in June, replaced him, staved off some senate losses that would've destroyed the party with Harris but lost anyways, and now are looking for an out. There was an obvious genesis of the issue here, much like there was when RBG decided not to retire before Republicans swept the senate thus nullifying her entire career through years of Senate paralysis.

The lesson is simple: A lot of these people did achieve meaningfully good things, RBG and Biden included, but they didn't know when to quit. So the whole thing falls apart. That's not a lesson on "don't try", it's a lesson on "know when to fold em."