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reincarnator07 posted...

I'm saying that people regularly say such callous things without being fired for it. I fail to see why it's only a problem now.

It's not "only" a problem now, nor should it be.

There have been plenty of campaigns in the past for people to be fired for saying or doing legal-but-shitty things. Like the woman who got fired for making a racist joke about not catching AIDS in Africa because she was white. Or the cops I posted up there who got fired for mocking George Floyd's murder. Or the various people who got fired for celebrating the January 6 insurrection.

Those sorts of statements should carry consequences, I think.

reincarnator07 posted...

Decorum isn't just mocking the death of a fascist. It includes being able to speak properly on what an awful person says and does.

I'm not objecting to speaking properly and honestly about what Charlie Kirk - or any other "awful person" - said and did. The person who got fired for pointing out that he was "no saint"? Yeah, I object to that firing - that's over the line, because a calm and dispassionate discussion of who Charlie Kirk was and why he was a bad person is not the same thing as celebrating his killing. We are allowed, and should be allowed, to talk about how he was not a good person and how his shitty viewpoints measurably made the public discourse worse. I'm not objecting to any of that - that's all fair game, as far as I'm concerned. It's fair and it's healthy to talk about how Charlie Kirk shouldn't be venerated.

But you can do all that without resorting to callousness or mockery. Talking about why Charlie Kirk was an awful person does not require us to celebrate someone murdering him.

reincarnator07 posted...

I think you place significantly more value on civility and decorum than the GOP does.

Yes - that's the point. The Republicans lost that decorum years ago and look at what they've become: proudly bigoted, ignorant, and hateful. I do not want to risk that contamination spreading to the left as well.