and that story is far more generic with cookie cutter characters who get very little development outside of the lead and 7
and even the big twist was something monolith soft had done before and done better in the previous work
I definitely was completely floored by Xenoblade's zanza reveal. The fact that they telegraphed Dickson, mumkar and maybe even Fiora twist made me drop my guard so that what was eventually revealed ended up being jaw dropping.