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EclairReturns posted...

Zeus posted...

a lot like Helly

So are you going to start accusing him of being NMB, and Janway now?

Clearly everybody I dislike is secretly Helly. >_>

Gamechamp3k posted...

This is honestly the case for almost ALL of the connected series in both the Marvel and DC universes. All these totally separate instances of totally unrelated people getting super powers in totally unrelated ways in totally unrelated settings, most of the time in settings where superpowers are seen as something magically unbelievable rather than "that very rare trait some people have." It's even worse in the Marvel universe, where the entire premise of X-men forms a completely different Earth with its own culture and history, yet it supposedly coexists with other series where we see Earth much closer to reality.

I opt for the way of thinking of "it's only canon if it's happening right now" with regard to crossovers.

Eh, it's not that *that* unlikely from another perspective. In the case of Marvel, you have the mutates principle -- or did, not sure if it's still going, you can ask PO -- which decreed that certain individuals are naturally prone to mutation under certain circumstances. So the fact that we have this universe where, on some level, all of the powers are somewhat related. The one major exception upon which I completely agree is that the X-Men make no sense in this universe in that a bias against mutants is farcical in a universe packed with strange and powerful beings.

Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

I'd be interested in a comic/movie/series where all the shit in the Marvel universe is going on at the same time, and everything getting fucked up and worse because of it.

Punisher shooting lowlifes, Spiderman fighting his enemies, demi-gods fighting other demi-gods.

Like three months later the whole world is post-apocalyptic due to the loss of life and infrastructure. All the while the heroes are mostly oblivious to it all or figure that everything will be fixed when villains stop wrecking stuff.

Eventually heroes and villains start to kill each other off, humanity is just clinging to the rubble hoping it will stop, or a quick death will come for them.

At the end its just one hero left and a ruined world.

Variations of heroes making things worse then fighting each other are done like every other year with Marvel. Although the world doesn't always end, it's a common enough occurrence.

EvilMegas posted...

Zeus posted...

The biggest way in which the Punisher is out of place is that he's a murderous vigilante in a universe which not only looks down on that stuff, but frequently tries to bring it to justice. I mean, how many other "heroes" does Marvel really even have who aren't morally opposed to killing? You have Wolverine, but that might be the only other major exception.

Ironman, Thor, Black Widow, Captain America, Hulk, Sentry, Blade, Moon Knight, Cyclops, Prof X. It's a long list.

Black Widow and Blade I'll give you (although YMMV with how "major" Blade is; yes, he's had films, but I can't recall him being one of the biggest), but Captain America is opposed (he doesn't even use a gun any more), Hulk was opposed (he accidentally killed another super in a fight and cried after), Professor X has an absurd number of rules, and I can't recall Iron Man really being supportive of it. Sentry *has* killed or attempted to kill multiple people, but he's not much of a hero.

Of course, the one big name I neglected was Ghost Rider, although he's a supernatural vigilante.
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