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Topic	every other month we get some notice our weeds are too long in the front
ParanoidObsessive 05/19/17 2:34:11 AM #84:	Muffinz0rz posted... If my weeds don't spill over onto your property, it doesn't affect you. Except it does, it multiple ways. Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't magically make it untrue. And even if it didn't, the fact remains that the laws still exist that say it does, so you're still blatantly wrong no matter how hard you try to wish yourself into a magical world of ponies and rainbows. Muffinz0rz posted... We've already been through the property value bit. Nobody here wants to repeat themselves. But it still remains true, no matter how badly you want to dismiss it out of hand. Like it or not, it DOES affect property value. Even in cases where a HOA isn't even remotely part of the equation. Which is why she brought it up again - you're basically hand-waving away one of the major points that hugely undercuts everything you're saying. You can't really say "Yeah, well people brought that up but we're not going to talk about it anymore," because saying that doesn't actually stop it being a thing, nor does it stop it being a thing that pretty much contradicts your entire argument. Smarkil posted... PO, you didn't even read what I said. I understand the reality of the situation. I'm arguing against the stupidity of society deciding that because a neighbors house has grass that's too long, you refuse to pay as much for a house. I actually did. Which is why I didn't say "You're right that things shouldn't be that way, but that's the way things are." What I actually said was "If you live in close proximity, someone else's property DOES have an effect on your own, and thus, you're not living in a completely closed system.". Because, like it or not, it abso-fucking-lutely does. And I'm not just talking about the nebulous "Oh, your shitty yard makes mine look bad and thus can potentially cost me money" (though that's also absolutely a thing). I'm also talking about - as I pointed out earlier - that the more unkempt your yard is, the more it becomes a potential health hazard. Higher weeds increases insect populations, from mosquitoes to ticks to even potentially termites. It can increase vermin population, a la mice, rats, or other things which can be a problem entirely on their own, or additionally due to the increased risk of rabies or other diseases. A friend of mine is actually currently in the process of calling the police on one of his neighbors, because they essentially abandoned their house entirely due to an impending eviction, leaving weeds that are multiple feet high, garbage in their yard that is years old, multiple sources of standing water, and other issues that are absolutely creating potential health hazards for my friend's young children. He doesn't really care that it "looks bad" or that it's potentially lowering his property value, he's worried because it's a major problem that absolutely effects him and his family directly. And he's absolutely right to do so. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:879389912] in every othe... [t:75356927]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>If my weeds don't spill over onto your property, it doesn't affect you.</quote> Except it does, it multiple ways. Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't magically make it untrue. And even if it didn't, the fact remains that the laws still exist that say it does, so you're still blatantly wrong no matter how hard you try to wish yourself into a magical world of ponies and rainbows. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>We've already been through the property value bit. Nobody here wants to repeat themselves.</quote> But it still remains true, no matter how badly you want to dismiss it out of hand. Like it or not, it DOES affect property value. Even in cases where a HOA isn't even remotely part of the equation. Which is why she brought it up again - you're basically hand-waving away one of the major points that hugely undercuts everything you're saying. You can't really say "Yeah, well people brought that up but we're not going to talk about it anymore," because saying that doesn't actually stop it being a thing, nor does it stop it being a thing that pretty much contradicts your entire argument. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>PO, you didn't even read what I said. I understand the reality of the situation. I'm arguing against the stupidity of society deciding that because a neighbors house has grass that's too long, you refuse to pay as much for a house.</quote> I actually did. Which is why I didn't say "You're right that things shouldn't be that way, but that's the way things are." What I actually said was "If you live in close proximity, someone else's property DOES have an effect on your own, and thus, you're not living in a completely closed system.". Because, like it or not, it abso-fucking-lutely does. And I'm not just talking about the nebulous "Oh, your shitty yard makes mine look bad and thus can potentially cost me money" (though that's also absolutely a thing). I'm also talking about - as I pointed out earlier - that the more unkempt your yard is, the more it becomes a potential health hazard. Higher weeds increases insect populations, from mosquitoes to ticks to even potentially termites. It can increase vermin population, a la mice, rats, or other things which can be a problem entirely on their own, or additionally due to the increased risk of rabies or other diseases. A friend of mine is actually currently in the process of calling the police on one of his neighbors, because they essentially abandoned their house entirely due to an impending eviction, leaving weeds that are multiple feet high, garbage in their yard that is years old, multiple sources of standing water, and other issues that are absolutely creating potential health hazards for my friend's young children. He doesn't really care that it "looks bad" or that it's potentially lowering his property value, he's worried because it's a major problem that absolutely effects him and his family directly. And he's absolutely right to do so. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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