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KJH posted...

So why's the opening post say DC's team are the attackers?

This is a combination of M4's terrain bidding system and Draft Mercs giving defined starting positions, so it's never really come up before. I'm the designated attacker and I also won the terrain bid, so despite it being Selvaria's terrain, she's starting in the attacker position. It probably makes a difference here, but not to a match-turning degree.

To summarise, Alice's team really wants to get into melee range, but for them to do so without sustaining serious damage, or even getting outright wiped, requires Selvaria's team to essentially march up the slope and walk right up to them, which is clearly an illogical thing to do. They may not know who's on the other team, but there's no way they'd sacrifice the range they know they have by gambling on the unknown.

Where Alice starts is somewhat fortified, but they can't stay there forever; and there simply isn't enough cover on the map for them to safely approach without taking fire. Juliet is her team's best bet of beating Selvaria, but she needs to get into melee range first, and whilst she's capable of deflecting bullets, there's nothing she can do about lasers, napalm or explosive-tipped arrows. Crono and Geese are in the same boat. Alice has a lot more tricks up her sleeve, but dodging fire on the approach to Selvaria whilst simultaneously trying to keep her teammates alive is too great an ask. She'll have her brief period of invincibility, but by then it's likely too late for her to accomplish much with it.

Basically, DC's argument is predicated too much on the "if" factor. IF Crono gets close Luminaire will do work. IF Juliet gets close enough she can out-melee Selvaria. IF Alice plays perfectly she can close on Lara mostly unscathed whilst still having a team to back her up. IF Selvaria decides to be an idiot she could give up her team's biggest strength and willingly close the gap between the two of them. IF Sonic and Tifa's support work buffing, disrupting and scouting achieves nothing whatsoever then they're more or less dead weight.

The most likely scenario is simply a case of a team with strong range whittling down a melee focused team on a terrain with not enough cover for the latter to safely approach. Alice is the best fighter on her team with the most ways of coping with projectiles, but in between all that as well as Sonic being a nuisance trying to put off her dodging and ice-casting, what good does it do if her team is all dead, even with 20-30 seconds of invincibility near death?
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