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Topiclots of people have been talking about trump getting impeached
MariaTaylor
07/12/17 11:15:41 PM
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contribution: so here's the funny thing, even if he had received intel this is generally not counted as a contribution toward the campaign of any kind. this is typically regarded as opposition research (which is what DTJ refers to in his own official statement on the matter). as far as I know there is no precedent for anyone ever considering intelligence as a campaign contribution. although the counter argument here is that people do sometimes pay for the gathering of opposition research. so yeah this is maybe a gray area. but I mean if he says he didn't pay for it and he says that it has no value and he says it doesn't exist, and none of the people in the room will say otherwise... once again, reasonable doubt.

ultimately I don't even know or care if he did anything wrong. it's frankly too impossible to know what happened based on the currently available evidence. what I do know for sure is that legally it's very unlikely he will get into any trouble. and if DTJ is not even in any trouble I have no idea how people think Trump is somehow going to get impeached over what happened. at its most innocuous this story can simply be spun as 'DTJ went to meet with someone who offered free opposition research, but ultimately did not even have anything to offer. the meeting was a waste of time and disappointment for the trump campaign.' that seems to be the story they are going with, which makes sense, because it's probably the safest line of thinking to defend with (and very convenient if true)

about jared kushner, here is where things get complicated. he took a job in the trump administration and gained security clearance. applying for this requires him to fill out a form which states whether or not he had "any contact with a foreign government, its establishment (such as embassy, consulate, agency, military service, intelligence or security service, etc.) or its representatives, whether inside or outside the U.S."

from what I understand the angle of attack here assumes that he answered 'no' on this form and that he did meet with a foreign national. lying on this form is a felony. here are the issues with that line of thinking.

1. the russian woman does not appear to be a foreign national. she's just a person from a foreign country.

2. even if she is a representative of the russian foreign government jared kushner may not have been aware of this fact and, ultimately, he could say he was not aware of that fact. it's very, very difficult to prove that he knew this and intentionally lied about it. no lie, no felony. once again reasonable doubt rears its ugly head. proving that a person lied about something is very, very difficult.

now I'm sure people will read this and probably disagree with what I'm saying because they think something wrong transpired (maybe it did), but ultimately I'm not discussing whether something wrong happened or not. I'm discussing whether someone is in trouble. in order to get in trouble someone would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that DTJ broke some law or laws. as of right now I don't predict that happening in relation to this event.
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