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Topic	If you knew your child would be born transgender, but there was a pre-natal cure
GiftedACIII 07/18/17 6:02:15 AM #141:	gunplagirl posted... Mandasnake posted... GiftedACIII posted... Oh, and I'm also transgender You are? They aren't, they're making it up in order to dismiss my identity because they didn't consider it valid. Which is, you know, entry level transphobia. No, I'm just making fun of your specific mindset where apparently transgender isn't the concept that you're the opposite sex but just whatever the fuck you feel like. I'm met a few transgenders and none of them are like you, at least how you are currently. I think you were still rational 3 years ago but you've really dropped off the deep end. hockeybub89 posted... GiftedACIII posted... hockeybub89 posted... GiftedACIII posted... who thinks being disabled is a part of your identity and proud of it so you can show off how different you are. While wanting to be disabled when you are not would be insane, it is indeed part of your identity and you should not feel shame. If you grow up with a disability, it affects literally everything about you, good and bad. This is why you get trans people or Aspies or whoever that would not want to be cured outright if such a thing even existed. The worry is that it would reshape their entire identity, their very person, not just remove the bad stuff. Yeah, and the reason you wouldn't give this treatment to your child is because you WANT them to be disabled. In my view, and the majority of the world, wanting your child to be disabled is probably not only more insane, but certainly more despicable than wanting yourself disabled. I don't want anyone to be disabled. I just think genetic engineering is a huge moral question. My problem is I have a bad imagination and take overthink hypotheticals. If such a cure existed for my hypothetical fetus and it was developed ethically and all concerns were addressed, I would take it for them. But I wouldn't even want man to go down this road if it was unethical. I didn't mean you specifically, just the mindset that not giving the treatment would be. Honestly, I think that if you were to realize the child you're looking at's hypothetical scan and realize all the problems they'd have to face that are inherently tied with being transgender like dysphoria and hormones you'd likely use the treatment for their sake. I mean, the treatment in this scenario is basically meant to do what they will wish for when they grow up anyway. The stuff like non-binaries and supposed transpeople who don't feel dysphoria (which means they probably don't really have as much of the brain differentiations if at all that people with dysphoria do) probably won't show up on the scan anyway (because they're not as genuine). --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:883128258] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mandasnake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, and I'm also transgender</quote> You are?</quote> They aren't, they're making it up in order to dismiss my identity because they didn't consider it valid. Which is, you know, entry level transphobia.</quote> No, I'm just making fun of your specific mindset where apparently transgender isn't the concept that you're the opposite sex but just whatever the fuck you feel like. I'm met a few transgenders and none of them are like you, at least how you are currently. I think you were still rational 3 years ago but you've really dropped off the deep end. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>who thinks being disabled is a part of your identity and proud of it so you can show off how different you are.</quote> While wanting to be disabled when you are not would be insane, it is indeed part of your identity and you should not feel shame. If you grow up with a disability, it affects literally everything about you, good and bad. This is why you get trans people or Aspies or whoever that would not want to be cured outright if such a thing even existed. The worry is that it would reshape their entire identity, their very person, not just remove the bad stuff.</quote> Yeah, and the reason you wouldn't give this treatment to your child is because you WANT them to be disabled. In my view, and the majority of the world, wanting your child to be disabled is probably not only more insane, but certainly more despicable than wanting yourself disabled.</quote> I don't want anyone to be disabled. I just think genetic engineering is a huge moral question. My problem is I have a bad imagination and take overthink hypotheticals. If such a cure existed for my hypothetical fetus and it was developed ethically and all concerns were addressed, I would take it for them. But I wouldn't even want man to go down this road if it was unethical.</quote> I didn't mean you specifically, just the mindset that not giving the treatment would be. Honestly, I think that if you were to realize the child you're looking at's hypothetical scan and realize all the problems they'd have to face that are inherently tied with being transgender like dysphoria and hormones you'd likely use the treatment for their sake. I mean, the treatment in this scenario is basically meant to do what they will wish for when they grow up anyway. The stuff like non-binaries and supposed transpeople who don't feel dysphoria (which means they probably don't really have as much of the brain differentiations if at all that people with dysphoria do) probably won't show up on the scan anyway (because they're not as genuine). --- </topic></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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