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TopicSeems like Malcom X gets swept to the side, why don't we celebrate him more?
boxington
08/06/17 12:04:12 AM
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That's a pretty weak cop-out excuse, to be honest. Let's not be hypocritical.

how is it a cop-out, when one way from an era, where he saw, what he considered to be, his people being killed, brutalized, etc., with little justice, and the other belongs to a group that has been a literal and political majority for who knows how long?


And Richard Spencer sees what he considers to be all manners of offenses and violence against whites. Both individuals twisted the shit out of things in order to justify their hatred of other races. They didn't develop that hatred by seeing injustices - they try to use perceived injustices in order to justify the hatred they already held to begin with.

I mean, Malcom X believed that whites are failed experiments and inferior to blacks, right? It's literally along the same lines of what Richard Spencer believes about black people.

but the offenses that black people suffered really did happen.

Spencer being delusional doesn't make the two cases similar.

X's dumb religious beliefs, or nah.


He opposed integration, literally believed that white people were devils created by evil scientists, and spread these types of thoughts broadly and generally regardless of whether or not his experiences with white people were subjective rather than objective. He certainly had a rough childhood, but none of that justifies his beliefs and his actions.

MLK had a rough life too, and yet he disavowed violence and didn't spread this type of horse shit. Malcom X's beliefs were not the result of his experiences, they were the result of his inherent racism and hatred of other skin colors.

It's good that he recanted at the end, but that's like Richard Spencer becoming super Christian or some shit - it's fine and dandy but ultimately useless and meaningless considering all the additional racism he's been inspiring.

you have the benefit of being able to see the flaws in his views in hindsight.

imagine living in an X supremacist society, where your people don't have the same rights as the majority, that your history in that society started it chains, and has been bloody ever since. that your interactions with the majority have rarely went well, and often with conflict.

would you really believe that peace and integration could happen like that? there was no history of it happening.

if you didn't, and continued seeing your people brutalized, wouldn't it make sense that maybe your people might have a better chance separately?

I understand disagreeing with his views, and even considering then abhorrent, but it's dishonest to make some kinda parallel with X and Spencer
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