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KStateKing17 posted...

Animals of the same species kill each other everyday and humans are no different. Whether it's because of their toxic environment, greed, jealousy, etc. People have found some reason to kill another person, and this has been since the beginning of our existence.

Then how come the level of killing is not consistent?

How come societies with laws and resource management that thrive on logic have very little killing?

It's literally impossible to argue that whatever actions we take will have no effect on the level of killing.

And doubly hilariously hypocritical and impossible to make that argument WHILE ALSO arguing that we need to kill people. And thus increase the level of killing you claim is unchangable.

If we accept that we can make actions that decrease the level of violence and harm then it is not unreasonable to argue that it is potentially possible to remove them entirely, even if unlikely.

KStateKing17 posted...

The most effective way that would have prevented this was keeping his children away due to those signs. Now I'm not a doctor, but I'd like to know what type of therapy you suggest that doesn't require doping him up that would have fixed this man

No idea, don't know him, don't know the case.

since you're sure it would have prevented this. Also I'm very curious on how you would prevent someone from snapping over finding a cheating spouse, or someone killing over jewelry and money.

Simple start is scrapping the death penalty and challenging people like you who support it to question yourself.

When you stop thinking that violence and killing are solutions to problems that's the first step towards not thinking that violence and killing are solutions to problems.

That should be pretty obvious when you think about it.

In the past humans killed each other frequently, for tribal, religious and emotional reasons. AS soceity advanced this quelled over time. People used to beat their children to make them obedient. This failed and just made the children grow up prone to more violence or crude behavior.

"I broke a window or stole, if X found out they would beat me. So instead of telling the truth or not stealing/breaking. I will do it and then then lie. Or I will get someone smaller to do it and then beat them."

Etc

We understand that now. Yet you refuse to consider that as a society teaching everyone that killing is an acceptable solution might shift people down the path to thinking that violene and killing are acceptable.

Second to that in this specific case. Think about the circumstances. This guy is so fucked up about who he is and his perversions that he literally killed his family because he was so embarrased about people finding out.

Don't you think that's absurd?

Don't you think as a society we should barely care about what people's fetishes are beyond a mere quick chuckle?

But no, instead of your reaction going "that's a silly fetish what a strange man." your response is "We have to kill him."

In the big picture, guess what the level of emotion leads to for society?

We're talking about hundreds of millions of people affected on a mental scale in minature hard to measure capacities every day. I'm interested in the best solutions for them as a collective.

You are interested in what satisfies you in the present to punish the "bad man"

Guess which worldview garners better results?

Just think about it. Always always question what you think and why you think it.

Odds are in life you will be wrong 4 times in a row before you are right about something.
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