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TopicIceland approaches 100% abortion rate for down syndrome
Doe
08/16/17 1:59:13 PM
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Yaridovich posted...
It's not about deeming a person "good enough". It's also fucking NOT telling people that they should be dead. It's about providing a child the best possible life and creating them with a severe disability goes against that.

It also amazes me how many people can't separate existence from non-existence and the meaning behind both of them. When a child is aborted, miscarried--whatever, the whole notion of their existence becomes this nebulous what-if space when the reality is there is nothing there, just like there wasn't beforehand. If I wasn't ever born, or was aborted or whatever, then you'd never see this post, my family wouldn't know about me, I WOULDN'T FUCKING EXIST and you CANNOT compare existence to that and expect anything meaningful to come of it.

It's like when people say "Well, what if Edison was aborted? Then we wouldn't have the light bulb!". Well--if he was aborted, then we wouldn't fucking know about him at all and the light bulb would trickle on down to be invented somewhere else (or not at all, who knows that's all just speculation). There's zero point in laboring over what could have been. In this linear existence all that we know is what IS.

Sure, there are a lot of people that live happily with their disabilities, and yay for them, really. But they're not what I'm talking about and what really the discussion at hand shouldn't even be looking at. The real question here is if you know--without a shade of doubt--that your child is going to be disabled in a significant way and within the time frame that abortion is allowed, would you abort it?

To me, knowing full well that a child is going to be born with a disability and carrying it through to term is inherently disgusting. This child cannot provide any consent, knowns nothing but the existence you provide it and has to sustain off the world which you create for it. Having children is incredibly selfish that way--and so to make it so a child is already burdened by no fault of its own, simply so you can reap the emotional benefits of childbirth, is in my opinion, borderline evil if not already so. THAT'S what I'm saying. I'm not saying that I wish people already born to be dead, that's fucking stupid. Nor am I advocating hierarchical standards--I'm strictly thinking about the child.

If somebody forced you to now to live in a way that crippled you physically and emotionally, you'd be against it. Sure--given enough time you'd be able to adjust to it, that's what humans do, but the very concept of being given a sub-optimal condition of living against your will is morally wrong...so why is it okay to create life in the same way?

I just hate the idea of creating life that is inherently harmed simply for the moral fulfillment of the parents. If that's not 'playing god', then I don't know what it.

As someone on the spectrum, this is dumb
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