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averagejoel posted...

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iosifsvoboda posted...

Ww2 taught me that you don't bargain with nazis you punch their asses out and then they cry

averagejoel posted...

there is no peaceful resolution against nazis. they need to be crushed

This is the problem. It has been demonstrated over the last year that many non-nazis have been the victims of antifa violence and other tactics. That's what happens when you give them the power to determine who should be shut down and who shouldn't. You're leaving it up to their fallible discretion to dictate who is and isn't worthy of their violence. Will that often include actual nazis? Sure, as we saw this weekend. But it will also often not. And that is absolutely a problem you shouldn't be okay with.

There are better ways to achieve the goal they are wanting to achieve.

how are you suggesting fascism be eradicated then?

Through political means. Using violence against Nazis in WW2 was necessary because they were a massive militarized force with full government backing because they were the government. As awful as this last weekend was, the alt-right is a vast minority of conservatives. More violence is not going to stamp them out, just like more violence in the ME continues to radicalize. It will only fuel the victim complex that they have dedicated their pitiful lives to and lead to further violence. There is a path to resolution that doesn't require both sides to continue to be violent.

But you are completely missing the point. If the violence was being directed exclusively toward neo-nazis, then there would be a better case for it. But there is precedent of their misdirected aggression victimizing those who do not fall in that category. Giving a movement that authority and support to determine who should and shouldn't receive their violence is a mistake because as we have often seen, they will paint with a broad brush to justify violence against anyone who doesn't share their every view. And what is that, if not fascism?