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Topic	POLL: What do you think about the google memo?
Vlado 08/22/17 6:41:43 AM #51:	Jakyl25 posted... From 2006 http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2006/03/getting-women-scientists-back-career-track-japan Next month, Japan's government will launch a new category of grants open only to parents returning to the scientific workforce after extended childrearing breaks. It is part of a package of initiatives that also includes grants for institutions to develop schemes to help women balance research careers and family life. The underlying objective--set out in a draft 5-year policy plan--is to have women claim 25% of all new science and engineering positions at governmental institutions. To boost the numbers, the Council for Science and Technology Policy (CSTP), the nation's highest science advisory body, set targets for the proportion of newly available permanent positions that go to women in the Third Science and Technology Basic Plan, expected to be adopted by the cabinet this month. Targets vary by field: 30% for health and life sciences, 30% for agricultural sciences, 20% for physical sciences, and 15% for engineering. The percentages are based on the proportions of women currently earning Ph.D.s in each area. "We assume that the ability of men and women are equal, so we can naturally expect that the rates [of women earning Ph.D.s] should be reflected in the rates of women becoming professors or assistant professors," says Kawamoto, who oversaw the drafting of the plan. Glorious Nippon has shamed you, Vlado-san How does that contradict what I said? It doesn't. Sad thing is the "work/parenting balance" thing doesn't become reality even when it's incorporated in law. For instance, 20 days of paid leave per year are allowed to Japanese workers, but they rarely take more than 5-6. That's just how Japanese society is. Too much importance is placed on work. foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... Surely you don't believe women have more freedom in India Yes, and in the 1980s US too. lmao, yeah, the rights of women in the West somehow magically vanished since the 80s. No. They have more rights than ever in history, and that is why they choose professions they like better. Besides, you're still just completely ignoring any contradictions to your theory. China and Brazil have far less freedoms for everyone (especially women), but also have very few women in tech. China even has a strong growing economy, and has the same problem. China's got few women, period, because of the 1-child policy. And Brazil has "less freedoms for everyone"? What? Are you one of those people? I'm a person who makes conclusions based on facts. You are a person who likes some idea a lot and embraces it, and then goes around frantically searching for anything that might support it. Usually, you fail to find anything strong to support it... This case being no exception. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:885226097] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>From 2006 http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2006/03/getting-women-scientists-back-career-track-japan <quote>Next month, Japan's government will launch a new category of grants open only to parents returning to the scientific workforce after extended childrearing breaks. It is part of a package of initiatives that also includes grants for institutions to develop schemes to help women balance research careers and family life. The underlying objective--set out in a draft 5-year policy plan--is to have women claim 25% of all new science and engineering positions at governmental institutions.</quote> <quote>To boost the numbers, the Council for Science and Technology Policy (CSTP), the nation's highest science advisory body, set targets for the proportion of newly available permanent positions that go to women in the Third Science and Technology Basic Plan, expected to be adopted by the cabinet this month. Targets vary by field: 30% for health and life sciences, 30% for agricultural sciences, 20% for physical sciences, and 15% for engineering. The percentages are based on the proportions of women currently earning Ph.D.s in each area. "We assume that the ability of men and women are equal, so we can naturally expect that the rates [of women earning Ph.D.s] should be reflected in the rates of women becoming professors or assistant professors," says Kawamoto, who oversaw the drafting of the plan.</quote> Glorious Nippon has shamed you, Vlado-san</quote> How does that contradict what I said? It doesn't. Sad thing is the "work/parenting balance" thing doesn't become reality even when it's incorporated in law. For instance, 20 days of paid leave per year are allowed to Japanese workers, but they rarely take more than 5-6. That's just how Japanese society is. Too much importance is placed on work. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Surely you don't believe women have more freedom in India</quote> Yes, and in the 1980s US too.</quote> lmao, yeah, the rights of women in the West somehow magically vanished since the 80s. No. They have more rights than ever in history, and that is why they choose professions they like better. <quote>Besides, you're still just completely ignoring any contradictions to your theory. China and Brazil have far less freedoms for everyone (especially women), but also have very few women in tech. China even has a strong growing economy, and has the same problem.</quote> China's got few women, period, because of the 1-child policy. And Brazil has "less freedoms for everyone"? What? <quote>Are you one of those people?</quote> I'm a person who makes conclusions based on facts. You are a person who likes some idea a lot and embraces it, and then goes around frantically searching for anything that might support it. Usually, you fail to find anything strong to support it... This case being no exception. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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