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Topic	Kindergarten girl went home crying and scared she might turn into a boy
Callixtus 08/23/17 4:26:34 PM #207:	Sayoria posted... Callixtus posted... Sayoria posted... Callixtus posted... Society can and should work against promoting transgenderism. And you know what would happen? More violence towards us. Your comment here is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. We don't choose to be who we are. We just are. Having society against us does nothing but encourages violence and suicide. Just accept us. Why is this so fucking hard? Another strawman argument. I've already said we should tolerate transgenderism, and love transgender people. But we should not be promoting it. I know this is too subtle a point for many people on CE to understand. We should punish bullies and arrest people who harass or assault transgender people, and ultimately preach a message of tolerance. That is as far as I go. I do not go as far as waving a rainbow flag and calling anyone who doesn't want their child exposed to left wing cultural Marxism a bigot. It is not bigoted to not want your child to suffer from what I believe is a disorder nor to wish to see a disorder promoted. How is bringing awareness promoting it? There is nothing wrong with awareness, in and of itself. But what "awareness" looks like is problematic. First, there's a selectivity issue. Gender dysphoria is a rare condition, affecting less than 1% of the population. Why should we choose to make children more aware of this condition than other ones? The answer of course, is because it fits well within a certain political agenda. Focusing on gender dysphoria, instead of other conditions that may affect children at a similar or even greater rate will often result in more instances in promoting it, because there is so much attention on the issue in the first place. Second, what are the mechanics of this awareness? I'm sure this teacher thought that she was merely making her class "aware" of gender dysphoria, but she unsurprisingly crossed the line into promotion. Who is responsible for how children are to be made aware? Since many liberal types are often authoritarian on these issues, they would rather avoid debate altogether, and assume the responsibility to impose their views themselves. It was good to see such an effort fail on this occasion. --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:885319082] in Kindergart... [t:75700605]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Society can and should work against promoting transgenderism.</quote> And you know what would happen? More violence towards us. Your comment here is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. We don't choose to be who we are. We just are. Having society against us does nothing but encourages violence and suicide. Just accept us. Why is this so fucking hard?</quote> Another strawman argument. I've already said we should tolerate transgenderism, and love transgender people. But we should not be promoting it. I know this is too subtle a point for many people on CE to understand. We should punish bullies and arrest people who harass or assault transgender people, and ultimately preach a message of tolerance. That is as far as I go. I do not go as far as waving a rainbow flag and calling anyone who doesn't want their child exposed to left wing cultural Marxism a bigot. It is not bigoted to not want your child to suffer from what I believe is a disorder nor to wish to see a disorder promoted.</quote> How is bringing awareness promoting it?</quote> There is nothing wrong with awareness, in and of itself. But what "awareness" looks like is problematic. First, there's a selectivity issue. Gender dysphoria is a rare condition, affecting less than 1% of the population. Why should we choose to make children more aware of this condition than other ones? The answer of course, is because it fits well within a certain political agenda. Focusing on gender dysphoria, instead of other conditions that may affect children at a similar or even greater rate will often result in more instances in promoting it, because there is so much attention on the issue in the first place. Second, what are the mechanics of this awareness? I'm sure this teacher thought that she was merely making her class "aware" of gender dysphoria, but she unsurprisingly crossed the line into promotion. Who is responsible for how children are to be made aware? Since many liberal types are often authoritarian on these issues, they would rather avoid debate altogether, and assume the responsibility to impose their views themselves. It was good to see such an effort fail on this occasion. --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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