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Topic	Jim Sterling takes Player Unknown to the Battlegrounds and destroys him
Jeff AKA Snoopy 08/28/17 4:20:22 PM #129:	Fine then, don't support them. Go to their official forums and complain, try and demand your money back if this shift in their game making is so egregious. And it being optional is not a fallacy, especially in a product that has at this point delivered everything it promised to those who backed it. They are free to do what they want extra on top of that if they so choose to. If they want to make thousands of dollars off loot boxes that are outside the original pitch of the game, they are fine to do that. Perhaps they won't get as many sales of the game now that these horrifying micro-transactions are included. The fact that you won't even admit to the fact that they have delivered on what they promised for backers is embarrassing. Your "don't know, don't care" is simply a cover because you don't want to admit you are wrong. This "new direction" may turn people away now, no question. It is still within the parameters of what the developers promised to provide their players. The fact that YOU think developers and producers won't try to make more money off a game makes you the naive one. Did you think they were going to try to "be better" than everyone else? They have, IMO, provided the best game of this style that exists today, and if that almost means that the game will have some stupid loot boxes that I would never indulge in anyways because I'm not a sucker, so be it. Be incredulous, be inflammatory. The fundamental principals here are two-fold. 1. This is not a full price game. You keep calling it that, when full price games are nearly double the price of this. Stop acting like you've paid 60 dollars for this game and you are entitled to what you THINK that symbolizes. Hell, the new Shadow of Mordor game has loot boxes and micro-transactions in the SINGLE PLAYER mode. *Your perception of what you are entitled to means nothing.* 2. When you purchased this game (assuming you did), they have since delivered on the promises they put forth in their developers guide. This game is in no way fundamentally different than what was promised, at all. Arguably it is better for adding cosmetic options that many users seem to be perfectly fine with. You do not have to indulge in any of it, and *it is still the game you were promised and you paid for, without any extra fee's.* Until you can tell me how your PERCEPTION of the worth of a game is indicative of what they can and cannot do with their game, and how they have lied in any particular way... none of your arguments really have any validity at all. Are loot boxes inherently anti-consumer. Yes. Are they completely optional? Yes. Are they borderline predatory to those who have no self control? Yes. Am I a smart consumer who does not need to be protected from this "scourge"? Yes. --- It's art! YOU DON'T NEED PANTS! - Chris Jericho http://imgur.com/a/1zdpk <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:885607365] in Jim Sterli... [t:75716504]...</cite> <quote>Fine then, don't support them. Go to their official forums and complain, try and demand your money back if this shift in their game making is so egregious. And it being optional is not a fallacy, especially in a product that has at this point delivered everything it promised to those who backed it. They are free to do what they want extra on top of that if they so choose to. If they want to make thousands of dollars off loot boxes that are outside the original pitch of the game, they are fine to do that. Perhaps they won't get as many sales of the game now that these horrifying micro-transactions are included. The fact that you won't even admit to the fact that they have delivered on what they promised for backers is embarrassing. Your "don't know, don't care" is simply a cover because you don't want to admit you are wrong. This "new direction" may turn people away now, no question. It is still within the parameters of what the developers promised to provide their players. The fact that YOU think developers and producers won't try to make more money off a game makes you the naive one. Did you think they were going to try to "be better" than everyone else? They have, IMO, provided the best game of this style that exists today, and if that almost means that the game will have some stupid loot boxes that I would never indulge in anyways because I'm not a sucker, so be it. Be incredulous, be inflammatory. The fundamental principals here are two-fold. 1. This is not a full price game. You keep calling it that, when full price games are nearly double the price of this. Stop acting like you've paid 60 dollars for this game and you are entitled to what you THINK that symbolizes. Hell, the new Shadow of Mordor game has loot boxes and micro-transactions in the SINGLE PLAYER mode. Your perception of what you are entitled to means nothing. 2. When you purchased this game (assuming you did), they have since delivered on the promises they put forth in their developers guide. This game is in no way fundamentally different than what was promised, at all. Arguably it is better for adding cosmetic options that many users seem to be perfectly fine with. You do not have to indulge in any of it, and it is still the game you were promised and you paid for, without any extra fee's. Until you can tell me how your PERCEPTION of the worth of a game is indicative of what they can and cannot do with their game, and how they have lied in any particular way... none of your arguments really have any validity at all. Are loot boxes inherently anti-consumer. Yes. Are they completely optional? Yes. Are they borderline predatory to those who have no self control? Yes. Am I a smart consumer who does not need to be protected from this "scourge"? Yes. --- It's art! YOU DON'T NEED PANTS! - Chris Jericho http://imgur.com/a/1zdpk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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