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Topic	"I do not support a livable wage"
Smarkil 08/31/17 1:53:02 PM #45:	adjl posted... This isn't about personal abilities, though. It's about the position itself, which employers designate as having a sub-living wage. If an individual working at a living wage doesn't generate enough revenue for the business to cover that wage, by all means, fire them, because that's not sustainable. But if the position itself cannot generate enough revenue to allow the employer to stay in business, the position should not exist. If that's not an option, then the employer can't afford to stay in business. Again, if a position is necessary, then it is necessary for a person in that position to be able to live. This is not a cost that can be avoided. Then current paradigm is to pass off that deficit to the government, relying on welfare programs to shore up sub-par business ownership. That's not a great paradigm, because it exists as an inefficient half-measure between a livable wage and a basic guaranteed income. Either establish a livable minimum wage and refocus welfare efforts on supporting businesses that are struggling to maintain those wages (dramatically reducing administrative costs because there are much fewer employers than there are employees), or establish a basic guaranteed income such that minimum wage laws are no longer required to ensure that workers can live (also dramatically reducing administrative costs because it simplifies the welfare process). Why is this the government's responsibility? Mcdonalds where I live is desperate for people and have raised their starting wage to 12 bucks an hour. I don't even live anywhere where the cost of living is high. But they can't get anyone to take the position, so pay necessarily goes up until the position is filled. It's supply and demand economics. Also, if you're making minimum wage past being a teenager, then you fucked up. Make yourself more employable and make more money. It's really not hard to do. The people that have legitimate reasons for being in a shitty position like that (like ex cons and people with disablities) have or should have other programs. Why would you 20+ and still making minimum wage? --- If my daughter was in it, Id have to be the co-star - Deoxxys on porn <cite>Smarkil posted [p:885785422] in "I do... [t:75697224]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>This isn't about personal abilities, though. It's about the position itself, which employers designate as having a sub-living wage. If an individual working at a living wage doesn't generate enough revenue for the business to cover that wage, by all means, fire them, because that's not sustainable. But if the position itself cannot generate enough revenue to allow the employer to stay in business, the position should not exist. If that's not an option, then the employer can't afford to stay in business. Again, if a position is necessary, then it is necessary for a person in that position to be able to live. This is not a cost that can be avoided. Then current paradigm is to pass off that deficit to the government, relying on welfare programs to shore up sub-par business ownership. That's not a great paradigm, because it exists as an inefficient half-measure between a livable wage and a basic guaranteed income. Either establish a livable minimum wage and refocus welfare efforts on supporting businesses that are struggling to maintain those wages (dramatically reducing administrative costs because there are much fewer employers than there are employees), or establish a basic guaranteed income such that minimum wage laws are no longer required to ensure that workers can live (also dramatically reducing administrative costs because it simplifies the welfare process). </quote> Why is this the government's responsibility? Mcdonalds where I live is desperate for people and have raised their starting wage to 12 bucks an hour. I don't even live anywhere where the cost of living is high. But they can't get anyone to take the position, so pay necessarily goes up until the position is filled. It's supply and demand economics. Also, if you're making minimum wage past being a teenager, then you fucked up. Make yourself more employable and make more money. It's really not hard to do. The people that have legitimate reasons for being in a shitty position like that (like ex cons and people with disablities) have or should have other programs. Why would you 20+ and still making minimum wage? --- If my daughter was in it, Id have to be the co-star - Deoxxys on porn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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