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Topic	Hearthstone Discussion Topic: Death Is Eternal, My Turn Is Not!
MariaTaylor 09/04/17 12:28:24 AM #285:	theoretically it's not an insane swing card but anyone who has played a bit of arena knows from personal experience that in practice it is an INSANE swing card that single handedly decides games. once again I've been in an 'about to win' position multiple times and had the other person play Jaina and completely run away with the game afterwards. the card has a played win rate of around 80% this is not a coincidence. both light forge and hearth arena had to increase the rating of the card to be higher than they initially had it set at, because it's just far better than it seems at first glance. 5 armor, plus summons an elemental with lifesteal, plus has potential to summon more elementals with lifesteal, plus gives any elementals they have in their deck lifesteal. arena is not the same as constructed. yes, in constructed, you can have an optimized deck where the opponent gaining 5 armor is no big deal. in arena though the opponent buying themself one extra turn and putting a lifesteal monster on the board can absolutely swing the game. especially when they now have the ability to generate instant value. first of all you're forced into difficult trades where you have to try and avoid your minions being left with 1 life because it can allow them to summon an elemental. this is not just a problem of 'well if you play really well you can avoid having 1 health and avoid being punished.' you have to understand the issue is that often you have to FOREGO making the optimal play because the oppressive hero power of DK Jaina restricts the lines of play you have available. if you top deck a minion with one health or one they can trade into and drop to one health then you just can't play. they can turn your draws into dead draws. they can force you to make the least favorable trades. if you try to face race them down they will simply keep hitting you and gaining health back from lifesteal. it's nowhere near as easy to deal with as you seem to think it is. especially in a mode where your deck is just cobbled together random cards that you have to make the best of. --- ~* 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 X ~* http://i.imgur.com/c0Dtmjr.jpg <cite>MariaTaylor posted [p:885982761] in Hearthston... [t:75713320]...</cite> <quote>theoretically it's not an insane swing card but anyone who has played a bit of arena knows from personal experience that in practice it is an INSANE swing card that single handedly decides games. once again I've been in an 'about to win' position multiple times and had the other person play Jaina and completely run away with the game afterwards. the card has a played win rate of around 80% this is not a coincidence. both light forge and hearth arena had to increase the rating of the card to be higher than they initially had it set at, because it's just far better than it seems at first glance. 5 armor, plus summons an elemental with lifesteal, plus has potential to summon more elementals with lifesteal, plus gives any elementals they have in their deck lifesteal. arena is not the same as constructed. yes, in constructed, you can have an optimized deck where the opponent gaining 5 armor is no big deal. in arena though the opponent buying themself one extra turn and putting a lifesteal monster on the board can absolutely swing the game. especially when they now have the ability to generate instant value. first of all you're forced into difficult trades where you have to try and avoid your minions being left with 1 life because it can allow them to summon an elemental. this is not just a problem of 'well if you play really well you can avoid having 1 health and avoid being punished.' you have to understand the issue is that often you have to FOREGO making the optimal play because the oppressive hero power of DK Jaina restricts the lines of play you have available. if you top deck a minion with one health or one they can trade into and drop to one health then you just can't play. they can turn your draws into dead draws. they can force you to make the least favorable trades. if you try to face race them down they will simply keep hitting you and gaining health back from lifesteal. it's nowhere near as easy to deal with as you seem to think it is. especially in a mode where your deck is just cobbled together random cards that you have to make the best of. --- ~* 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 X ~* http://i.imgur.com/c0Dtmjr.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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