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Soviet_Poland 09/05/17 5:30:24 PM #82:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... The point is that I don't get the flu. If I have ever actually "caught" it, it has been obliterated by the innate side without so much as a low grade fever. I did get that swine flu thing almost 10 years ago, that was also obliterated. Put up enough of a fight to make me miss a day of work, but that's it. A flu shot to my innate immune system would be like offering nerf guns to super badass elite spec ops soldiers on top of all the weapons they already have. Any flu would have to be a predator strain for me to get significantly sick and even then, my immune system would go Arnold on it and I would be back to normal in at most, almost a week. I think you're still misunderstanding. Vaccines do not affect the innate immune system. Also, the Spanish Influenza pandemic of 1918 was more deadly than the Black Plague. It affected young people in their 20s with healthy, robust immune systems through something called "cytokine storm." It was so immune-system stimulating, people essentially died of their own immune response to that influenza strain. This was in stark contrast to other strains of influenza which are usually only potentially deadly to newborns and elderly. That was just that one particular strain but all it takes is one year's influenza A strain to go through antigenic shift and be potentially catastrophic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic You can probably get away with not getting the flu shot. It's not 100% effective, but most people who actually catch the seasonal flu have a pretty shitty illness that knocks you on your ass for a week at the very least. Most who say they had it before and it lasted a day are just talking about a run-of-the-mill cold. Most who go through a true flu tend to opt for the shot every year to minimize the chances of going through it again. Again, has nothing to do with your immune system being "weak" or "strong." If you spend enough time around people sick with the flu, you're going to catch it. If they sneeze on you, you're going to catch it. Saying "I haven't gotten it yet!" is like saying you don't wear your seatbelt because you haven't crashed yet. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:886080786] in If your ki... [t:75741556]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>The point is that I don't get the flu. If I have ever actually "caught" it, it has been obliterated by the innate side without so much as a low grade fever. I did get that swine flu thing almost 10 years ago, that was also obliterated. Put up enough of a fight to make me miss a day of work, but that's it. A flu shot to my innate immune system would be like offering nerf guns to super badass elite spec ops soldiers on top of all the weapons they already have. Any flu would have to be a predator strain for me to get significantly sick and even then, my immune system would go Arnold on it and I would be back to normal in at most, almost a week.</quote> I think you're still misunderstanding. Vaccines do not affect the innate immune system. Also, the Spanish Influenza pandemic of 1918 was more deadly than the Black Plague. It affected young people in their 20s with healthy, robust immune systems through something called "cytokine storm." It was so immune-system stimulating, people essentially died of their own immune response to that influenza strain. This was in stark contrast to other strains of influenza which are usually only potentially deadly to newborns and elderly. That was just that one particular strain but all it takes is one year's influenza A strain to go through antigenic shift and be potentially catastrophic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic You can probably get away with not getting the flu shot. It's not 100% effective, but most people who actually catch the seasonal flu have a pretty shitty illness that knocks you on your ass for a week at the very least. Most who say they had it before and it lasted a day are just talking about a run-of-the-mill cold. Most who go through a true flu tend to opt for the shot every year to minimize the chances of going through it again. Again, has nothing to do with your immune system being "weak" or "strong." If you spend enough time around people sick with the flu, you're going to catch it. If they sneeze on you, you're going to catch it. Saying "I haven't gotten it yet!" is like saying you don't wear your seatbelt because you haven't crashed yet. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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