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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Dark Young Link 09/08/17 7:08:42 PM #364:	Corrik posted... Black Lives Matters is more inherently racist btw as it singles out one race of people whose lives matter. The too being understood is not a relatively good argument. I know a lot of good people are probably involved with it, but a few have done violence in the name of Black Lives Matters because it has not done a good job at differentiating between it being a black power group and a call for civil rights group. Arguing Blue Lives Matters, All Lives Matter are racist before Black Lives Matter just seems like a convenient argument and not a sound one. Hey Corrik, gonna assume this is in good faith and respond sincerely here. You are missing the intent of X Lives Matter in this case. Black Lives Matter: The issue is that police are killing an alarmingly high amount of black people under suspicious circumstances and getting away with it. Almost as if the lives of black people was less than anyone else. The group wishes to stop that. It's not implying white people aren't important, or Hispanics, or anyone else isn't important. Just, more or less, "Can you stop killing black people for no reason please?" The issue with "All Lives Matter" is that it's insincere. It's implying that BLM doesn't already believe that. An incorrect assumption for what I imagine is the majority of the people that fall under BLM(There's a few knuckleheads of course, but they don't represent the true message of BLM). The other issue is that ALM people.... don't really seem to care to do anything. It seems to exist purely to take attention away from black people. It's changing the subject, while offering no solution to the previous problem. You've probably heard this example used before. But it's like going into a cancer ward, and complaining that there are other disease out there that needs curing too. While that's true, that person is doing absolutely nothing to contribute to curing cancer, and basically wants to end the conversation. Blue Lives Matter is even worse because the police ALREADY gets so much support, it's difficult to believe that a lot of people don't value the lives of police officers. Yes yes "F The Police" but outside of criminals and edgelords, who actually says that? Who actually believes that? Cop killers are near universally derided, as is anyone who would support killing a cop. Additionally, who exactly gets away with killing a cop? If someone kills one and avoids getting arrested, sure. But who has killed a cop, been arrested, and was found 'Not Guilty' for killing a cop because of reasons? It also feeds into the misconception that supporting the cops, and total subservience of the cops are the same thing. You can support the cops, yet still believe that disobeying one shouldn't result in an automatic death sentence. You can support the cops, yet still believe one should be fairly punished in a court of law. You can support the cops, yet still believe there is a serious problem with corrupt cops getting off easy for their crimes, and be against the "good" cops who turn a blind eye to them because "one of us". TLDR: Black Lives Matter has a message All/Blue Lives Matter is changing the subject without offering a solution. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:886268130] in Politics C... [t:75747014]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Black Lives Matters is more inherently racist btw as it singles out one race of people whose lives matter. The too being understood is not a relatively good argument. I know a lot of good people are probably involved with it, but a few have done violence in the name of Black Lives Matters because it has not done a good job at differentiating between it being a black power group and a call for civil rights group. Arguing Blue Lives Matters, All Lives Matter are racist before Black Lives Matter just seems like a convenient argument and not a sound one.</quote> Hey Corrik, gonna assume this is in good faith and respond sincerely here. You are missing the intent of X Lives Matter in this case. Black Lives Matter: The issue is that police are killing an alarmingly high amount of black people under suspicious circumstances and getting away with it. Almost as if the lives of black people was less than anyone else. The group wishes to stop that. It's not implying white people aren't important, or Hispanics, or anyone else isn't important. Just, more or less, "Can you stop killing black people for no reason please?" The issue with "All Lives Matter" is that it's insincere. It's implying that BLM doesn't already believe that. An incorrect assumption for what I imagine is the majority of the people that fall under BLM(There's a few knuckleheads of course, but they don't represent the true message of BLM). The other issue is that ALM people.... don't really seem to care to do anything. It seems to exist purely to take attention away from black people. It's changing the subject, while offering no solution to the previous problem. You've probably heard this example used before. But it's like going into a cancer ward, and complaining that there are other disease out there that needs curing too. While that's true, that person is doing absolutely nothing to contribute to curing cancer, and basically wants to end the conversation. Blue Lives Matter is even worse because the police ALREADY gets so much support, it's difficult to believe that a lot of people don't value the lives of police officers. Yes yes "F The Police" but outside of criminals and edgelords, who actually says that? Who actually believes that? Cop killers are near universally derided, as is anyone who would support killing a cop. Additionally, who exactly gets away with killing a cop? If someone kills one and avoids getting arrested, sure. But who has killed a cop, been arrested, and was found 'Not Guilty' for killing a cop because of reasons? It also feeds into the misconception that supporting the cops, and total subservience of the cops are the same thing. You can support the cops, yet still believe that disobeying one shouldn't result in an automatic death sentence. You can support the cops, yet still believe one should be fairly punished in a court of law. You can support the cops, yet still believe there is a serious problem with corrupt cops getting off easy for their crimes, and be against the "good" cops who turn a blind eye to them because "one of us". TLDR: Black Lives Matter has a message All/Blue Lives Matter is changing the subject without offering a solution. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL</quote> ... 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