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omnichaos posted...

I don't think it's clear at all.

What's unclear about it? It means don't insult someone based on their race, religion, etc.

I'm not sure how it could be made more clear than that.

omnichaos posted...

Especially when calling somebody a racist or a Nazi doesn't get modded.

Is this hate speech?

Dreamsaber posted...

TC needs to just admit he wants to say the n-word without repercussions.

Well, let's go through this. Are they insulting you based on your race, religion, sexual orientation, culture, ethnicity, disability, nationality, or gender? No. As a matter of fact, you haven't even specified any of the above for yourself, so it would be impossible to do so.

So no, not hate speech - just your garden variety jab (and a pretty mild one, honestly - pretty sure Dreamsaber was joking about that).

omnichaos posted...

Tell me what you take from this:

I fail to see how this relates to the topic of censorship, and I'm leery about steering this onto another topic of conversation which is likely going to blow up the thread, but I'll answer anyways.

What I take from it is that, amongst those Muslims who believe Sharia Law should be the law of the land (an unspecified portion of Muslims depicted in that image), roughly 1/5 to 1/4 of them support stoning as a punishment to adultery in Southeastern Europe, rising to a 1/3 to 1/2 in Central and Southeast Asia, with slight-to-strong majorities in South Asia and the Middle East (where, for what it's worth, such punishments are seen as quite normal).

The inverse of this would also be true - a strong majority (75-80%) of those Muslims who believe Sharia Law should be the law of the land in Southeastern Europe do not believe stoning is an appropriate punishment for adultery, dropping to a slimmer but still statistically valid majority in Central and Southeast Asia, with popularity dipping well into minority status in South Asia and the middle east.

So you've done a good job in showing there's a wide variety of opinions in the Muslim world on punishment - always useful to keep in mind, given that large groups of people seldom uniformly agree about anything and it's a bad idea to tar them all with the same brush.

Beyond that, it's an interesting factoid, but relatively useless without greater context. For instance, how many Muslims in each area believe Sharia Law should be the law of the land? And what do those numbers look like for those Muslims who don't agree with Sharia Law? Perhaps more importantly, what are the local laws in each of those areas, (which I posit would have a far greater effect on whether or not someone would support that kind of punishment - you might be asking one group if they support laws already in place and another if they support changing the laws to something very different from what they are presently, and you'll naturally get more people supporting the former than the latter)? As a control, what do the numbers look like for non-Muslims in those areas?

Without that kind of data, a cherry-picked statistic like this is ultimately not as relevant as it may first appear. It could be part of a greater trend or it could be noise - impossible to tell, but still useful for people pushing an agenda with a simplistic narrative.


On a completely unrelated note, did you know that near the end of World War II, 13% of all Americans suggested that the Japanese should be completely slaughtered as a people? As in, every last one hunted down and killed, including the children and those who were assisting the Allies?

https://goo.gl/QGNALK

People believe some pretty barbaric things, huh.
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