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darkknight109 posted...

I mean, what part of COVID specifically do you think hasn't been communicated in basic terms that a child could understand?

If covid kills, why did I and my friends just get a cold? How do you know it's not just the flu? How do you know that the gub'mint isn't lying about a normal cold to inject microchips? What are the ACTUAL deaths by covid, instead of deaths with? Why are the rules opening and closing all the time? If it's so bad, why doesn't the government act it?

I'm not a denier, but what I see is "It is because we did tests", which means nothing to them as they don't know what the tests are or why they're valid. There also "why would the government care to chip you? Don't be dumb" when I'm sure over the last few years people have come up with wild reasons to do that (or just cite the wild shit the CIA has actually done just cuz).

darkknight109 posted...

Well, that's the issue, isn't it? It's like saying, "I don't believe diseases exist; I think sickness is spread through miasma." If they don't believe that, short of inviting them into a medical laboratory and letting them look through a microscope, you can't really convince them that their beliefs are wrong, and it's completely impractical to do that on a large scale.

We have cameras, we have absolute tonnes of youtube channels basically dedicated to proving stuff like this. They may even just need the basic explanation of why the science moved away from the miasma. These people aren't exactly knowledgeable but they're still skeptical, they need answers they can do something with.

darkknight109 posted...

I have - specifically, by pointing out that people like doctors spend most of their days with masks on and they somehow don't asphyxiate.

They'll assume doctors do shit like go out of the room for a breather or breathing exercises or some shit. They know first hand the breathing feels wrong so if they can't deal with it, they'll assume others can't. They need their experience to be acknowledged and brought in to the explanation so they can make sense of the answer.

You ever see kids in school learn how to do a math problem, but when told to do the same problem but with different numbers, they don't get it at all? It's the same thing, they haven't established how the two problems work the same way.

darkknight109 posted...

Except... they have.

It has been explained, ad nauseum, how vaccines work, in terms basically anyone can understand. Here, I can do it right now - you get a small, inactive chunk of virus shot into your arm. Your body learns about it and develops special cells that are tailored to detect and kill it, so that if the actual virus ever shows up in your body, you will have cells there that can easily and quickly get rid of it before it does any serious damage. It's the biological equivalent of handing your body the Death Star plans so that all the little Luke Skywalkers floating around in your bloodstream figure out how to blow it up.

The issue isn't that people don't understand that; the issue is that they don't believe it.

I don't think anybody has said that vaccines as a concept doesn't work, but I assume you've seen those kinds of people too, but when you tell them you're putting a piece in, they already know they get symptoms from it. That doesn't seem inactive to them.

They love to talk about side effects of the vaccines and trial lengths so they must think there's an active part there that could break your brain. Even better, the fact you do trials at all makes them assume there's a risk and they want to know what that is and how the test proves that risk isn't big.

This is a big part of it, they're big dumb-dumbs with more information than they know what to do with. They're like a kindergartener in a university lecture; they might hear sentences that sound ridiculous to them, but they haven't got the most basic parts down yet to process even a relatively simple answer.

darkknight109 posted...

The issue isn't that they don't *understand* the facts and the data, the issue is that they don't *trust* the data.

And they don't trust the data because they haven't the ability to judge if it's good or not by themselves.

You can understand x+6=11 is a valid answer, even if you don't understand know what x is. They are questioning it being 11 because they thought x = 4 because in another equation x+6=10. they don't know that x is variable, they thought it was static and now think they're being tricked.

They need explaining how they can find out what x is to trust that the answer is 11.

darkknight109 posted...

Scientific discussion and scholarly debate can clear up misunderstandings of data, but they do absolutely nothing to address lack of trust.

Yeah, and it's on you to help deal with their trust as you want them to take the vaccine, they're happy with their answer and staying wrong.

darkknight109 posted...

If you don't trust the data being presented because you think that the government is secretly microchipping everyone or the 5G microwaves will mind control your brain or this is a plan by the illuminati to sterilize everyone and kill off the poor, more data and debate isn't going to address that issue.

Conspiracy theories arise from a lack of knowledge, it's answer seeking behaviour. Data is exactly what addresses the issue, but I suspect you just don't want to go through the depths of their idiocy and fair enough.