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AssassinFox posted...

That's not really an argument

It is when the original implication is that free speech and freedom of religion are universal western values. While we do have those things written into the constitution, you're either blind or a liar if you claim that those values are consistently upheld. For many years in the US, and to a lesser degree today, stepping outside the cultural norms would get you ostracized or worse. Anyone not Christian was a godless heathen, being black or gay would get you barred from employment, assaulted, arrested, or killed. Hell, just speaking up against the war in Iraq during the post 9/11 fervor put a target on your back. Just because we have freedom of speech and religion on paper, does not mean the people participating in society don't desire conformity to the norm.

As for your insane ramblings about certain religions being incompatible with free speech and religion, I've known plenty of Muslims through school that have been nothing but respectful to me, a bisexual atheist, so you're just reaching as far up as you can up your ass to pull stuff out on that one. Pretty typical of people that have very few interactions with real people from these groups