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Count_Drachma
05/31/22 5:21:12 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
yeah Im not reading all that

You can pretty much safely assume anything Horned posts will be biased nonsense if not outright propaganda. And a grand sweeping statement with one link to back it up -- where he likely didn't even read the link -- is usually just straight-up trolling.

joemodda posted...
I read it.

The study itself doesn't assert that socialism is better than capitalism, but rather just compares the outcome of various socioeconomic measurements of different countries with differing policies.

Looking at the categorization of countries, it seems to me that the comparison basically boils down to most of the world compared to a good chunk of eastern Europe and some parts of Asia. You could say that the 'socialist' countries are doing better by the metrics of the paper, but that leaves out a lot of the history and context for some of the countries listed under 'capitalism.' For example, would a country like Nigeria or Jamaica become more 'successful' if it decided to switch their government policies to be more aligned to socialism? I'm more than willing to bet money it wouldn't because the problems countries face are more than just socioeconomically.

Moreover, you shared a paper that was quite literally published over 35 years ago. I think if you wanted to make a better case that socialism > capitalism, you would look for something more... recent.

If anything, I think this paper showcases the success of capitalism more so than socialism! Or at the very least, it's a bad example of how socialism > capitalism. If you look again at the categorization, you would notice that N. Korea and S. Korea are are both sorted in lower-middle income... wonder how those countries are doing today. And likewise with USSR and East Germany. Last I checked one of those two countries broke up and now the remnant's army is out shitting on some poor Ukranian dude's body. The other joined forces with the evil capitalists... oops!

I applaud you putting in the effort to debunk Horned's obviously bunk claim, but... I mean, why put in that much effort?

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