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LightningStrikes posted...

Well look on the bright side. Theyre better than the Democrats!

To be honest while Ive been disappointed by Labour for the last year, they still have some really good policies like the National Care Service, and would absolutely be a huge improvement. And with the Liberal Democrats finally learning and making electoral reform with no referendum a requirement for any deal, theres reason to be optimistic.

Also unlike the Democrats a Labour government would actually be able to do stuff because it isnt held back by a system that guarantees paralysis!

Don't get me wrong, I'd be absolutely delighted if Labour did come in and their policies on the NHS and social care alone would be godsends, but I'm not going out of my way to actively support the party itself. I also don't see any realistic path to them actually getting in beyond a complete Tory collapse at election time, given how damn conservative the UK is and with Scotland almost permanently switching to the SNP.

I'd still much rather a coalition than just Labour, but I expect they'd need both the Lib Dems and SNP support, and I don't know if they'll accept significant electoral reform or IndyRef 2 as terms (both would make sense but a non-Tory government seems even less likely without Scotland, if I'm being selfish). I'll also say that this is me being cynical and treating some of the "safe" Tory seats as still safe when recent elections have shown that may not be the case, but I struggle to see a boring leader like Starmer winning over a boring Tory. Even in current circumstances, but especially with a war going on, Brits will always lean more conservative. I'd love to be proved wrong, though!

Regardless, I'll pinch my nose and vote Labour if I'm living in a marginal constituency because no chance am I letting the Tories in. Otherwise it'll probably be Plaid/SNP/Green for me, assuming the candidate isn't a nutter.

And yes, not to depress the Americans, but the crappy system here is delightful in comparison. Having to deal with weird old money families and stiff-upper-lip sociopaths is still a step up from open white nationalists and religious fundamentalists!