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Finished The Batman. While it wasn't amazing, I enjoyed it and wished the thing ran more than a season. The fact it got canceled is hardly surprising, given it was all over the place. The laser-guns were silly child stuff yet it had running continuity and other elements that might've appealed to an older audience. The visual style took a LONG time to get used to. The fact they relied on lesser-known rogues instead of the major ones probably hurt it, even though Anarky worked in a Joker-esque role (and Humpty Dumpty had a bit of a Riddler vibe with some of his stuff).

Started watching Super Crooks -- a NF-original anime about supervillains -- which, between the slow pacing and the crap dialogue, hasn't lived up to the initial promise, but who knows, I'm still kinda interested.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Regardless of whether you like the Bucks/Kenny or hate them, or assume they're entirely blameless or totally guilty of tons of things, it really doesn't change the fact that in this case Punk is ridiculously worse than them in every possible way that matters, and is pretty much the least professional person in the whole mess in spite of whining about how unprofessional other people are. I'm not saying they're entirely blameless (because that's murky as hell he said/she said bullshit). I'm saying Punk absolutely is.

lolwut? Coming out and addressing accusations orchestrated by other people is worse than spreading those lies in the first place, initiating a conflict by going into business for yourself on live tv, etc?

The Elite and their camp are poison in the locker room. They're basically a talentless, charisma-less version of the Kliq. CM Punk shouldn't have to publicly air 100%-correct grievances, that's on TK for not firing the Three Stooges and getting the usable portion of their camp in line.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

And like I said, it's not just Kenny/the Bucks/Hangman/etc or people directly attached to them who are pointing out how much of a shit Punk can be/has been. Plenty of other people have been firing shots into that particular melee, and almost none of them are on Punk's side at all.

The problem with getting your narrative from Meltzer is that it's flat-out wrong. While you're not going to get as many people speaking out on the AEW side ****BECAUSE YOU LITERALLY HAVE ASSHOLES IN A POSITION OF POWER TO BURY ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH THEM**** (which is why even FTR who put Meltzer in his place didn't dare to go out too far on a branch when criticizing the Bucks' nonsense), CM Punk has had a lot of support. However, when you have propaganda machines like Meltzer reprinting whatever the Stooges tell him, a bullshit narrative is created... and it's the same bullshit we've seen time and time again because this isn't the first time the Stooges have run a smear campaign, it won't be the last, and the same people buy into it will buy into it again.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

And to be brutally honest, even if the Elite were all sneaking manipulative politicking backstabbing villains (which almost no one other than Punk and maybe Cornette are saying is the case), the blame still wouldn't be on them as much as it is on Tony Khan.

It's almost like trying to run a wrestling business when you have no experience within the industry is a bad idea or something. >_> Yeah, TK *should've* put a Jim Ross or other veteran in charge of that shit he tried to do himself.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

At this point it seems like the only people on Punk's side are a couple of the really young wrestlers who he's offered advice to (like Jade), FTR (who seem to be friends with him just out of their shared love of Bret Hart), and Ace Steel (who is deep in his own bucket of shit right now for throwing chairs and biting people).

...or maybe it has more to do with Punk getting FTR unburied. Is it any surprise that shortly after Punk joined the company and worked with FTR, FTR started to get used better? And why the Bucks -- who'd been burying FTR -- started to attack Punk so hard?

And early reports mentioned Punk had helped and mentored a lot of people. You know, reports from BEFORE the Stooges started their smear campaign.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

As Booker T once said about Punk years ago, if you have to go around telling people you're the locker room leader, you're not the locker room leader. And that seems to be one of the things that's put a cactus up his ass so badly - he feels like everyone should respect him and lick his taint the way Tony Khan does, but plenty of people in the back simply don't respect him all that much.

Would that be the same Booker T whose wild claims very rarely match what everybody else -- mostly third-parties -- say? Because Booker was involved in his own share of locker room fights, and said things that the guys breaking it up disputed.